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Wastewater Radiation Does Not Concern Health Officials

January 14, 2013

BRIDGEPORT — Potentially hazardous uranium and radium are some of the radioactive materials being pumped into Ohio’s injection wells, such as the 13,727-foot deep one atop Kirkwood Heights....

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TrollSlayer

Jan-15-13 10:36 AM

And you thought witch-hunts ended in 1750. ugh...

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mikeyd

Jan-15-13 10:00 AM

so none of us know what's in this stuff.we have established that.the japs will tell you that radiation won't hurt you.even though the radiation is naturally occurring the other chemicals aren't. i still say that plain water under enough pressure will do the job.under enough pressure it can destroy just about anything.hydraulics 101.i don't claim to know everything about this industry but that i do know.at what level do they quit accepting these fluids into the injection sites?i would bet that they fill them up.

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LogHog

Jan-15-13 8:55 AM

in the 1950's the US Govt. did nuclear testing.Many bombs were set off with US troops and some movie film actors within range of the fallout coming from the explosions."Don't worry. It's safe. Won't hurt you" well, many of these tests resulted in long term illness and much cancer among the people exposed..of course most happened yrs. later..like the well know actor John Wayne..being on the set a few miles away at the time. point being..concentrated amount of radiation is a known killer of life..

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LogHog

Jan-15-13 8:17 AM

one thing's for sure..everyone's body will die sometime..but it does matter how one goes...these high radiation levels have no risk to the public? sure, no current risk, like being shot or stabbed or beaten with a club..but long term? injecting radiation deep into enclosures pose no risk? really? being in a concentrated amount...does not the risk of earth tremors and earth quakes risk the possible contamination of the ground water? sure, it's worth the risk..just ask the State.so what if the ground water in contaminated in 5,10, 20 or 50 yrs. from now..there's too much money involved to worry about that..

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littlefox

Jan-15-13 6:46 AM

Frack nation.c o m. Wed., Jan 22. "The truth runs deep."

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TrollSlayer

Jan-14-13 7:18 PM

WVUGEO “Rocky Flats... your skin erupts all over in open sores, your hair falls out, you go blind, and, you die... Your young children's gonads... births of marvels and monsters... lifetimes of illness, pain, disability, disfigurement and loneliness... ”

Wow. Now we’ve moved from Gasland as propaganda to Zombieland as propaganda. LOL

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idliketoknow

Jan-14-13 3:59 PM

WVUGEO, Dr. Rauch would be very disappointed.

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idliketoknow

Jan-14-13 3:19 PM

I want my kid to have 4 arms like Goro.

Really though, WVUGEO, where is the proof that this is happening or even could happen? If you are indeed a geologist as your name implies, then you know as well as I do that the likelihood of injection waste water infiltrating a freshwater aquifer is infinitesimally close to zero. Connate water aquifers are found at much shallower depths than these injection wells.

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WVUGEO

Jan-14-13 2:26 PM

Trollslayer: Furthermore: Your young children's gonads are in the process of becoming chromosome factories for future generations; and, they are exquisitely sensitive to radiation inputs while the genetic replication structures are being built; and/or as embryonic eggs condense in the ovaries. One thimble full of radium-bearing frac waste in water ingested by your babes could cause the births of marvels and monsters in years, decades to come. And, they will all be able to thank Grandpappy Trollslayer and is no-nothing gang of drill, Baby, drill dittoheads for lifetimes of illness, pain, disability, disfigurement and loneliness.

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WVUGEO

Jan-14-13 2:15 PM

Trollslayer:""WVUGEO “bad things will start happening to you, and: you will die.” Oh brother... LOL WVUGEO, from the article “Some of the samples showed readings for radium at least 242 times higher than the amount allowed for drinking water...” Don’t drink those samples. Those are what go in the injection wells". Troll, we don't know if you could be more of an industry sycophant if you tried. Those radiation levels would probably qualify it for injection at Rocky Flats, another mile deeper into stuff that's already "hot". You are missing the point: Radium becomes easily soluble and bio-available. It will displace Calcium in your bones and build up there, and the total level of radioactivity in your body will increase until your skin erupts all over in open sores, your hair falls out, you go blind, and, you die.

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TrollSlayer

Jan-14-13 12:27 PM

mikeyd, radiation detectors are not that expensive. Go buy one, and go find some radiation. Or keep believing unsourced, out of context, anecdotal posts from anonymous folks with unknown agendas.

WVUGEO, I’m STILL waiting for you to show me ONE water well in the Ohio Valley that has been contaminated by fracking fluid. Or you can just keep screaming RADIATION and YOU WILL DIE to advance your anti-gas agenda, since that seems to be effective on a few fact-challenged individuals who “know who to listen to” even though they have no idea who you are, other than that you claim to be a WVUGEO. LOL

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mikeyd

Jan-14-13 12:09 PM

wvugeo,sorry but not everybody on here knows everything about everything.only a few.we know who to listen to.

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TrollSlayer

Jan-14-13 11:30 AM

WVUGEO “Another thing you gotta understand is that waste dumping is big business for Ohio's government.”

Well, we certainly don't want any of that “big business” around these parts...

WVUGEO “Everyone here knows that frac fluids and frac wastes are exempt by law from content disclosures under the Safe Drinking Water Act, don't you? It's called the "Halliburton Loophole".”

Bull. The drilling companies release a list of components in their fracking fluid to the EPA every time they frack. Look it up. And if you don't know what’s in it, how do you claim to know it’s in your wells? What a canard.

Dick Cheney? Well, why didn't you tell us that in the first place! Evil incarnate. The Antichrist. Shut ‘em down!

LOL

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TrollSlayer

Jan-14-13 11:29 AM

WVUGEO “bad things will start happening to you, and: you will die.”

Oh brother... LOL

WVUGEO, from the article “Some of the samples showed readings for radium at least 242 times higher than the amount allowed for drinking water...”

Don’t drink those samples. Those are what go in the injection wells.

WVUGEO “"Robert Jennings ... at the Ohio Department of Health, said the injection wells ... should prevent the radioactive elements from seeping into any water supplies... In other words, no guarantees, but, trust us.”

So you trust the Government’s numbers when they say “RADIATION!” but don’t trust the Government when it says “not a problem”? Sounds like selective hearing to me.

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WVUGEO

Jan-14-13 11:19 AM

Oh, and sportsfans, don't misunderstand, in our post below, the "Halliburton Loophole" is Federal law installed in large part through Dick Cheney's lobbying. We mentioned the PA law because that's the only one anywhere, in any state, we're aware of that's made a move towards redressing some of the individually dangerous aspects of the Halliburton Loophole.

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WVUGEO

Jan-14-13 11:08 AM

mikeyd said:"funny that nobody knows exactly what's in this stuff". Everyone here knows that frac fluids and frac wastes are exempt by law from content disclosures under the Safe Drinking Water Act, don't you? It's called the "Halliburton Loophole". The only people who can be told what's in them, thanks to emergency PA legislation, is PA doctors treating someone who might have been poisoned. And, the doctor is compelled by law to sign a secrecy agreement before being told what might have poisoned his/her patient by the fracking company.

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WVUGEO

Jan-14-13 10:59 AM

Another thing you gotta understand is that waste dumping is big business for Ohio's government. Their DNR site proudly proclaims, that: "Ohio currently has ten industrial-waste disposal wells in operation at three facilities. Eleven additional wells have been plugged during the life of this program. Approximately 260 million gallons of waste are injected annually into the deep subsurface strata of our state through the ten permitted wells. The wastes originate from a variety of industrial processes, including steel processing, fertilizer and fungicide production, and plastics production. Some of the newer components of this waste stream are products of other waste-disposal and clean-up methods, such as incinerator scrubber water, liquids recovered from industrial spill remediation, and leachate from solid-waste disposal sites." Note that does not include their frac waste wells. Ohio government is making big bucks out of this, gotta expect their employee will play the company

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mikeyd

Jan-14-13 9:41 AM

i think that anonymous needs to hack into these peoples computers for the truth.we don't trust officials.and we're not discriminating here.government or gas company.we don't trust you.funny that nobody knows exactly what's in this stuff.another cover-up in the valley.don't worry though,even though we don't know what's in this stuff it won't hurt you.

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Chokingsmoker

Jan-14-13 9:06 AM

Walter Scott said it best in 1808.

"O, what a tangled web we weave when we practice to decieve."

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WVUGEO

Jan-14-13 8:26 AM

""When properly managed, the risks to the public and workers are extremely low. An individual could stand next to a truck that hauls the liquid waste for multiple days and not receive the radiation exposure delivered by a dental X-ray," Jennings said." The phrase "multiple days" means how many, exactly? Two? Three? But, again, Jennings is deliberately obfuscating the point: If it's pumped into the ground and just a little bit leaks into your drinking water, then, by-and-by, in the fullness of time, as more and more Radium accumulates in your bones, bad things will start happening to you, and: you will die.

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WVUGEO

Jan-14-13 8:24 AM

"Robert Jennings ... at the Ohio Department of Health, said the injection wells ... should prevent the radioactive elements from seeping into any water supplies. He said the public should not be concerned about these relatively small amounts of exposure. The radioactive elements, he emphasized, are "naturally occurring," as they are released from the earth during the drilling and fracking process." Note: "the injection wells ... should prevent radioactive elements from seeping". In other words, no guarantees, but, trust us. And, the ""radioactive elements, he emphasized, are "naturally occurring," as they are released from the earth during the drilling and fracking process."" Black widow spiders are "naturally occurring". You want some showing up in your kid's lunch box? Volcanic lava is "naturally occurring". You want someone to pipe a little river of it through your front yard? Sunlight is "naturall

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WVUGEO

Jan-14-13 8:20 AM

"Some of the samples showed readings for radium at least 242 times higher than the amount allowed for drinking water - and at least 20 times higher than the industrial standard." "Radium that is swallowed or inhaled can accumulate in a person's bones." That is absolutely critical: If you are talking about ingestion or inhalation of Radium, the moment-by-moment radiation exposure itself might be low, but: Radium is closely related to Calcium and will be deposited in your bones, with more being deposited the more you ingest/inhale. It never leaves your body, and, eventually, long-term exposure to low-level amounts results in accumulated amounts, a build up, that can and will kill you, and do some very, very ugly things to you before it does. "Long-term exposure increases the risk of developing several diseases, such as lymphoma, bone cancer and diseases that affect the formation of blood ... . Exposure to uranium can result in kidney damage ... ."

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mikeyd

Jan-14-13 2:22 AM

nothing hazardous.same old,same old.

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