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Residents Believe Shale Will Bring Jobs

January 31, 2013

WHEELING — By manufacturing the 6,000-pound “cattle stop” for the Williams Partners natural gas processing plant at Fort Beeler, Brett Francis and Michael Siebieda are building their business in......

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daWraith

Jan-31-13 6:35 AM

Sure it will create a few jobs here and there but there aren't going to be thousands of PERMANENT JOBS created.

Mostly temporary jobs as a result of the INFLUX of outside temp people.

Long term maybe a couple of thousand jobs???

NEVER will replace steel or coal in the heydays of the OV.

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WVUGEO

Jan-31-13 8:15 AM

Note that much of the "info" for this article comes from surveys of the public, who have been conditioned by relentless, uncritical public press touting of the Shale gas "miracle". A very credible and detailed study by the Ohio State University, "The Economic Value of Shale Natural Gas in Ohio", concludes that, while Shale gas development will provide some "short-term infusion of income", the long-term "employment effects of natural gas are modest", and "we should not expect natural gas to be a big job creator". They cite similar work from Penn State University drawing similar conclusions. Most of the "studies" showing large employment increases are coming from nat gas industry trade groups. Keep in mind that the pipelines are being laid to take the gas out of state. Once the wells are drilled and the lines are laid within a few years, that will be the end of any local gas "industry".

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TrollSlayer

Jan-31-13 9:14 AM

Then, when those wells are drilled and the lines are laid, and the gas begins flowing out, the royalty checks begin flowing in. And then local mineral rights owners will spend those checks on new construction, new vehicles, as startup money for businesses, on clothing, entertainment, travel,... goods and services sold by other local businesses.

Anyone work in the construction, auto sales, retail sales, food, entertainment, or travel and tourism industries here? YOU stand to benefit from the gas industry wealth that will flow here, too. Anyone here need a job? YOU could work for one of those industries that stand to grow and thrive on that wealth flowing in as a result of that gas flowing out.

Liberals just don’t understand that exports are a GOOD thing. Sales of gas and gas products FROM this area brings wealth back TO this area. Gas left in the ground doesn’t do ANYONE any good. Except those shilling for other agendas, of course.

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Citizen0

Jan-31-13 11:25 AM

As someone currently working in the gas industry from Wheeling, I can tell you that we haven't begun to see the impacts that will come as we get further down the road.

Soon we will be removing ethane from the gas stream which will be sent to crackers, employing thousands of people up and down the Ohio Valley.

This in turn will lead to more jobs in the chemical industry and hopefully, in the steel industry in general.

All of this will feed consumer spending and the service economy, which will help continue to grow our local economy.

If we are smart, we will leverage this growth to spearhead more high-technology jobs.

One thing is for sure. Wheeling is dead center in between the "wet" gas corridors of the Utica to the west and the Marcellus to the east. This is where the money is at in these shale formations.

If Wheeling is smart, it will clear more of the blighted sections of town and attempt to draw some gas related businesses to drop warehouses for parts, etc.

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jcolley

Jan-31-13 11:26 AM

opinion, not fact drives this article. Once the wells are drilled, the companies move onto the next job. It hasn't created too many jobs yet, and I doubt it will. Go ahead and keep listening to propaganda the Gas and Oil people keep pumping into your ears. Trollslayer, if you have ever worked in the retail and food industry you would know that no matter how much more business these places get, the average worker will still get paid only minimum wage.

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TrollSlayer

Jan-31-13 1:20 PM

jcolley, if you’ve ever worked in the food services or retail industries you’ll know those industries employ more than just table servers and clerks, and they do business with lots of other businesses – building contractors, suppliers, advertisers,... - all sorts of other services. And the employees doing the table serving and sales jobs aren’t there involuntarily.

And earning something, getting your foot in the door to future, higher-paying employment, and helping your family become self-sufficient, are better than living on welfare and being a parasite your whole life. Unless you're a typical liberal, in which case being a parasite and badmouthing others with more initiative and a little self-respect – others who actually contribute to society - is an acceptable lifestyle.

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MikeEbigg

Jan-31-13 7:30 PM

How many jobs? It looks like just one that the News Register keeps running over and over. How many times has this man been used as anecdotal evidence in the paper? He's been on the front page as much as some of our Delegates lately.

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BurningUp07

Jan-31-13 8:09 PM

Good luck to them...the OV is still in huge huge trouble though. I don't see the trickle down from the drilling being anywhere near enough to reverse it. Also most of the office jobs are being put in the Pittsburgh area which is a huge chunk of the permament jobs in the energy industry. Sales people, accounting, managers, etc.

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promo61

Feb-01-13 5:46 PM

Glass half empty = How many jobs? Glass half full = We are talking about jobs!!

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daWraith

Feb-01-13 5:46 PM

Citizen0, "if Wheeling is smart.."

Yes, and if Pigs Could Fly, there would be bigsh** dropping on everybody instead of the Bulls**t that the gas promoters are putting out.

A cracker plant make bring in 5000+ temps for construction but a modern plant is run by COMPUTERS with perhaps a 100 full time workers.

Git ur money whilst u can!

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daWraith

Feb-01-13 5:47 PM

---pigsh**---

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WVUGEO

Feb-01-13 9:42 PM

daWraith is right, Citizen0, there's only going to be one "cracker" anywhere near Wheeling - and it's likely to be in OH, or up near Pittsburgh, where they already have a pretty good site picked out. And, his estimate of 100 full time jobs at a modern cracker might even be on the high side.

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WVUGEO

Feb-01-13 9:48 PM

Further: We don't know what the situation is in WV, but applications for well drilling and fracking have fallen off a cliff in PA the past year. There just isn't going to be much of it, even though the Marcellus supposedly streches all across the state, up into NY. Scuttlebutt has it that the production decline rate of Shale Gas wells makes nearly all of them unprofitable. The whole Shale Gas biz is being called a Ponzi scheme by some.

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TrollSlayer

Feb-02-13 6:29 AM

...by some who don’t understand what a Ponzi scheme is. Mostly liberals who still believe Social Security has a “trust fund.” LOL

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WVUGEO

Feb-02-13 2:45 PM

Troll: see: Rolling Stone Magazine, March 1, 2012, "The Big Fracking Bubble: The Scam Behind Aubrey McClendon's Gas Boom", which says, in part: "According to Arthur Berman, a respected energy consultant in Texas who has spent years studying the industry, Chesapeake and its lesser competitors resemble a Ponzi scheme, overhyping the promise of shale gas in an effort to recoup their huge investments in leases and drilling. When the wells don't pay off, the firms wind up scrambling to mask their financial troubles with convoluted off-book accounting methods". In the New York Times, June 25, 2011, article, "Insiders Sound an Alarm Amid a Natural Gas Rush", another gas industry analyst is quoted as saying: “The word in the world of independents is that the shale plays are just giant Ponzi schemes and the economics just do not work”.

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WVEXPAT

Feb-02-13 4:18 PM

Take a drive up I-79 to Southpointe! It's growth over the last few years has been amazing!

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WVEXPAT

Feb-02-13 4:25 PM

From the NY Times, "Early last year, Western Pennsylvania’s Washington County chalked up the third-fastest growth among the country’s 322 largest counties. Just to the north, Butler County ranked sixth."

"The fortunes to be made have salved the headaches and heartaches in this stretch of Gasland. The Headleys are the unlucky ones. The wells on their property are spinning off an estimated $20,000 a month in royalties — not for them, but for the New Jersey man who sold them the property, but kept the gas rights."

I'm guessing it's folks like the Headleys who raise the biggest stink!

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