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Neighbors Say: Keep the Renters Out

Concerns expressed about such use of property in upscale area

February 22, 2013

WHEELING — Some residents in and around Walnut Woods Drive told the Wheeling Board of Zoning Appeals on Thursday they don’t want unfamiliar renters disturbing the privacy of their secluded......

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LAURAL

Feb-25-13 9:42 AM

"LAURAL do you know what it is like to work your butt off for minimum wage? Do you?" Oh contrare Whoops. I have not only worked for minimum wage but attended school at the same time. I also raised three children on a very limited income. If you read the posts below I stated quite clearly that it took me many years, MULTIPLE jobs and frugal spending to finally get to where I could buy my home and property. That is why I fully understand why these folks do NOT want renters in their neighborhood. They've had renters before with the same predictable outcome. I would be saying the same exact thing. Period. Next time do your homework before throwing accusations around.

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LAURAL

Feb-24-13 7:24 PM

This feed is getting funnier and funnier. Started out about renters and it has gone all over the place including the ramblings of a few loose screws. Good gravy.

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nobama

Feb-24-13 7:18 PM

Glad to see I'm no longer the most prejudice racist in the valley......I've been replaced....I'm thinking Obummer and the ACLU could find some "proper" people....too funny you snobbish fools..

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LAURAL

Feb-24-13 6:19 PM

WVU reading your posts is like getting a bad case of the flu and being confused. Good grief. I'll have to say that last rambling make me laugh out loud.

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wvhoopie2

Feb-24-13 11:43 AM

Too many rules to prevent life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

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LAURAL

Feb-24-13 11:17 AM

$315,000 for the house and property, approx $100,000 to eventually tear it down, and $500,000 for the "dream house". Almost a million bucks and we are going to recoup some of that money by renting the house out?? That would take quite awhile wouldn't it?? And when a house deed says "single family only" that would mean what?? And when a family is limited to two cars per lot I guess there is a reason for that too?? Now we know why it's so expensive to stay at the Hampton Inn. Or maybe the next one will be in Walnut Woods....

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LAURAL

Feb-24-13 10:06 AM

Envy is a deadly sin my friends. And for my uneducated friends, internship is the first post doctorate year, residency is the next two and fellowship is for a specialty outside of family medicine. The point that has obviously gone over some heads is that these folks are indeed entitled to protect their neighborhoods from unsavory tennents. They have EARNED it. And WVU you sound like a scorned man who has a dangerous view of women. (Oscar Pistorius anyone?). You need to attend church. You can come to mine.......they accept everyone. And BTW my dad has been dead since I was a kid. My recent good fortune has resulted from YEARS of hard work, two jobs and sacrifice. Something it sounds like you are not too familiar with.......

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mikeyd

Feb-24-13 7:38 AM

maybe there is some moonshine in those hills.

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walksabout

Feb-24-13 3:15 AM

so what ? a felon sometimes spends decades out of the income pool. They have to really hustle to make up lost progress. They didn't have the opportunity to do school, col, med. res etc. so what ? nobody forced anybody to get an education or debt.It is personal choice.

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walksabout

Feb-24-13 3:02 AM

Declaration of Independenc ? has to do with what ? It is notice to King George gang . Lot of wordsmithing. Nothing to do with any contract with the American People. No way to do with rent.

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LAURAL

Feb-24-13 12:23 AM

justanotherview....."Snob Knob" huh? WOW! Unbelievable. Your envy is palpable. I know several of the residents of this neighborhood. Some of the kindest, hard-working folks I've ever met. For example one resident is a physician. Let me see....4 years of undergrad school, 4 years of med school, 3 years of internship/residency and 1 year of fellowship. And let's not forget 300K in debt when they are finally done. Work hours that are impossible to describe. So by the time they are 40+ and can afford to buy a house and property in an upscale neighborhood they suddenly become snobs. They want to protect their neighborhood and their property and they are snobs. That is a load of crap! These people take pride in their homes, properties, their neighborhood and each other. And it shows. It is a lovely place to live and they want to keep it that way!!!!!

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justanotherview

Feb-23-13 11:07 PM

What a bunch of arrogant idiots!Gotta love those people who think money should be able to buy immaterial things, like exclusiveness in the general public domain.Besides, I'm sure the owners of those properties are paying high enough taxes for their rentals on "snob knob". Guess it's beyond your realm of thinking that someone could own and live in a residence and not be a jerk (probably half of you are idiots to your own neighbors), only if they are a renter. Get over it and realize your not better than most of the people you think you are!

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wvhoopie2

Feb-23-13 4:03 PM

Great idea have Wheeling with the HOME RULE ability to pass a fee on renters to help with the maintenance of the area and help renters to keep up with the local 'snobs'.

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LAURAL

Feb-23-13 3:13 PM

WWUthinking...are you crazy??? Seek help immediately.

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LAURAL

Feb-23-13 11:36 AM

And BTW psylocke I DID buy a house on some acreage out of town. I LIKE my privacy. I know ALL of my neighbors. I worked very hard and had to wait several years to get this home...but I sacrificed and did it. Then you get people who want to call you an elitist or a snob because you want to maintain the integrity of that neighborhood?? Thats garbage. Your slip is showing psylocke.

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LAURAL

Feb-23-13 11:29 AM

Psylocke...I know exactly what I am talking about. Renters have no vested interest in the home/apartments that they rent. I've lived next to them for years and watched it over and over again. Landlords rent out homes or apartments as an investment. They realize there will be some collateral damage and they account for that. Bottom line is they want the rent money and they don't care if the tennents bother the neighbors or not. And as far as your privacy....you are RENTING a place to live. Your landlord has access to your home and you are limited to the neighbors you have. These folks pay quite a lot of money to build their homes where they are and they spend quite a bit of money to live where they live. Instead of wasting your money on rent psylocke you might want to consider buying......just a thought.

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oldmansvan

Feb-23-13 10:02 AM

The City should build a fence to keep these residents in.

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WVEXPAT

Feb-23-13 8:58 AM

FYI Google was Obama's 3rd largest corporate campaign donor (bundled) right behind Microsoft.

And Google CEO Eric Schmidt is a big Obama fan! From Guardian UK, "Mr Schmidt, 57, was offered the job of Treasury or Commerce Secretary or a new "Secretary of Business" slot, according to the Washington Examiner." Mr Schmidt also helped to promote Obama's jobs bill in 2011 when the President asked Congress for a new round of stimulus spending and was faced with deadlock after Republicans rejected key elements of the plans."

I know all this has nothing to do w/ keeping renters out, but sometimes these threads veer off topic. Might as well roll w/ it!

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WVEXPAT

Feb-23-13 8:47 AM

From Bloomberg Dec 2012, "Google Inc. (GOOG) avoided about $2 billion in worldwide income taxes in 2011 by shifting $9.8 billion in revenues into a Bermuda shell company, almost double the total from three years before, filings show. By legally funneling profits from overseas subsidiaries into Bermuda, which doesn’t have a corporate income tax, Google cut its overall tax rate almost in half. The amount moved to Bermuda is equivalent to about 80 percent of Google’s total pretax profit in 2011."

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WVEXPAT

Feb-23-13 8:44 AM

All that being said, it's not a minimal tax deduction for moving expenses (whether another state or country), but the U.S. corporate tax rate that pushes jobs & money overseas. Take Google as an example. In just 1 quarter in 2009 Google brought in $2.8 Billion in revenue, more than 1/2 from overseas. Why would they put so much off shore? They set up an operation in Ireland that was then taxed at 4%. They then created Google Irish Holdings and based that in Bermuda which was taxed at .6%. Googles overall foreign tax rate was 2.4% (Bloomberg). At the U.S. corporate tax rate of 35% that "lost" us $60 Billion.

So why not simplify and lower our corporate tax rate? $6 billion in corporate taxes is better than 0$!!

Taxes (and to some extent lower wages) are why corporations move overseas, not a moving expense deduction.

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WVEXPAT

Feb-23-13 8:04 AM

"n fact, tax experts say the incentive has been there for decades - since there has been a corporate income tax. It's not Bush's doing.

The incentive exists because the US taxes corporations at rates higher than most other countries. According to the Institute for International Economics, the effective rate for US corporations was just over 30% in 2002, while mainland China's effective corporate rate was only 11.3%, Britain's 18.2%, Mexico's 15.1% and Indonesia's a miniscule 0.2%."

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WVEXPAT

Feb-23-13 8:03 AM

"There are no official figures on the total number of jobs that have gone overseas, but in May 2004 the Labor Department made its first-ever report on the portion of "mass layoffs" attributable to "overseas relocation." Their survey showed that only 2.5 percent of major layoffs in the first three months of 2004 were a result of outsourcing abroad." "Another assessment comes from Ben Bernanke, Chairman of the economics department at Princeton University and also a governor of the Federal Reserve. In a speech at the end of March he estimated that the total number of jobs lost to "offshoring" at roughly one percent of all jobs lost."

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WVEXPAT

Feb-23-13 8:00 AM

"Tax breaks (deductions) were put into place that allowed big business to deduct the cost of moving their operations overseas in pursuit of cheaper labor. The end result was a significant loss in the amount of expendable income in the USA"

Interesting article from FactCheckdotorg from 2004, "But recent Labor Department data underscore what even Democratic economists have said for some time -- outsourcing jobs overseas, or "offshoring," accounts for just a small fraction of the many millions of jobs that are lost each year even in a good economy.

There is indeed a tax break for US-based multinational corporations to locate operations overseas. Bush isn't to blame for it -- it's been there for decades."

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daWraith

Feb-23-13 6:04 AM

WvuJERK, Bill Clinton signed NAFTA, Bill Clinton signed Community Redevelopment Act (CRA) and Bill Clinton signed the REPEAL of Glass-Steagull.

The pillars of the financial meltdown, ALL DUMMORATS.

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Psylocke

Feb-23-13 12:03 AM

Laural if you only knew what you were talking about. Everyone thinks renters are TRASH, including yourself. Get a life and get out of Wheeling or the Ohio Valley for that matter.

I've rented for many years (13 in fact,) am I a good enough renter for this place? If my landlord thought renters were trash then I would have been out the door years ago.

Oh and I don't pay for my privacy with rent money and insurance on my belongings? Wow.. go pay for your privacy on a 50 acre lot somewhere so you can be a hermit all alone.

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