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Raises to Hinge On Performance

March 7, 2013

Moundsville City Manager Deanna Hess said city employees can look forward to pay raises for the first time in more than three years, but it remains to be determined how much each employee will......

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walksabout

Mar-10-13 4:05 AM

accuracy shouldn't be a concern when you only have a 26 letter alphabet to work with.

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Wheeldog

Mar-09-13 7:00 PM

I apologize for speaking off-topic, but I feel compelled to comment on another article in the paper. It is about the fact that the unemployment rate has declined significantly. If this paper had been reporting a significant rise in national unemployment I feel almost certain that there would have been an opportunity to comment on the article. Kinda makes you wonder if the WI is biased, Naw, they are fair and balanced.

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walksabout

Mar-09-13 1:22 AM

Vol firemen should be deputized. they can ticket traffic violators in off duty time for funds to pay the day work. good idea ?

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Mudrunner

Mar-08-13 10:46 PM

Do you think for a second that these people chose to be working during the day? Or is it the fact that the city council made the decision to put them on day turn? Another question that needs asked is: Why is the city even paying the VFD for services? Is there any accountability what so ever with the money that is given to them or are they just permitted to spend it as they please. Seems to me that if the city is funding them, someone should have a say in where and how the money is spent. Why not just give the money to the city department to add additional manpower?

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walksabout

Mar-08-13 5:51 PM

this probklem with greedy workers wanting a living wage for their labor is temporary. A liberal comprehensive plan is near that will add many many many million more job seekers who have history of under bidding the prevailing wage system.

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Melvin182

Mar-08-13 3:25 PM

Redwhitblue, Did you poll every city employee or official to see if a "thank you" was given?...I bet you didn't becuase you would find that you are wrong.

"those men would do anything in their power to help"...so would the volunteers and most fireman.

dyinggov has a point. Maybe their hours should be changed to cover the prime time hours for fires or go to 24/7 like the police.

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dyingov

Mar-08-13 11:58 AM

chevy, 40 hours per week paid fire coverage and 168 hours per week paid police coverage....the difference is 128 hours per week or 6656 hours per year!

Would we guess that those 6656 "extra" hours of coverage may result in a need for additional equipment?

I make no reference to more importance between the two (fire/police)!

According to the US Fire Administration: "Fatal residential building fires occur most frequently in the late evening and early morning hours, peaking from midnight to 5 a.m. One-third (33 percent) of fatal residential fires occur during these 5 hours."

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PorkChop

Mar-08-13 9:58 AM

not true! Yes they were at both fires! I am sure that if you would ask anyone that was at either fire you would be told the same. If my memory serves me correctly, I do beleive I seen the Paid Fire Department on the news at the one big fire several years back. Was it not in fact them that did the fire investigation?

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redwhiteblue

Mar-08-13 9:31 AM

Mudrunner, good point just to add in there...City Fire was on those two major fires on the weekend if she was talking about the two that I am thinking of.

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redwhiteblue

Mar-08-13 9:28 AM

Melvin182, "She did thank the FD but it was not put in the paper. Maybe she was busy taking care of her family and didn't have time to thank everyone personally." No, she did not thank the FD and since you seem to know so much about her you would think you would know what you're talking about before you comment. The bad thing, it's understandable for someone not to thank someone b/c they were taking care of their family but to go and make a comment that "was taken out of context" like that about a department that would have went above and beyond just doesn't "justify" to me why she said it. But I believe porkchop hit a nerve with you as maybe Mrs. Dewitt hit a nerve with all the others on this post. I hope a house doesn't catch on fire Monday thru Friday 8-4. I personally do know that if it were my house that would catch on fire that it would be Mon thru Fri 8-4 b/c I would atleast know that those men would do anything in their power to help my fami

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PorkChop

Mar-08-13 9:26 AM

Melvin, No I do not work for the Fire Department, nor do I even work for the city of Moundsville. With city council members like that, Who would? Im glad that I dont! Yes you are right, Maybe she was busy taking care of her family? As I would expect her to be, but thats been how long ago? Why has she not given the Thanks that should have been given since then? I just happened to run into one of the paid firemen last night while shopping in Wal Mart, while talking to him I asked if she just by chance did thank them for what they did. Would you like to know the answer that I received? "(with a laugh)NO, she has not said anything to us about it. She never will! She has made her point clear, she does not want us there to begin with". Now let me ask you this, Where does she get her facts before she says anything? The evening paper states that she "mentioned two large fires that occurred in the weekends in recent years. She said that ONLY volunteers resonded". I do bel

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Mudrunner

Mar-08-13 9:23 AM

In the evening paper she was quoted saying that in recent years there for fires on the weekends that were handled only by volunteers! My question is, if the city department only works M-F from 8-4, who was supposed to handle these fires? If the city crews were supposed to be there, shouldn't they be on duty in that case?

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Melvin182

Mar-08-13 9:09 AM

Hey porky, she was appointed to a vacant position on council, then won the vote for her current seat.

She did thank the FD but it was not put in the paper. Maybe she was busy taking care of her family and didn't have time to thank everyone personally.

Her quote was taken out of context. There was more to it. Essentially saying she couldn't justify the purchase this year.

You need to get more information before commenting. You, obviously, know a lot about her, her husband, and her family. Why didn't you just voice your concerns to her instead of using this forum?...oh, I bet you work for the FD. If you do, then talking to her directly would get better results than using this forum.

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chevyman

Mar-08-13 8:20 AM

dyingov, Why is it not a very good argument? Correct me if I ma wrong but each police officer only works 40 hrs a week. Dewitt's husband works monday through friday 8-4, the same as every guy on the paid fire department.

Now you tell me, what makes them that much better?

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walksabout

Mar-08-13 2:38 AM

let the fire dept member take the equipment home so they can respond quicker on standby like other departments do.

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dyingov

Mar-07-13 10:52 PM

mud, Paid police protection is 24/7/365...Not a very good argument!

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Mudrunner

Mar-07-13 8:24 PM

If one would note the following information: The one councilwoman that is voicing opposition on the new fire truck has relatives within the Volunter Fire Department as does the Councilman that is questioning when the last rate increase was made for the VFD contract. Does this not seem a little suspicious to anyone? Why may I ask would you not want the fire department to have up to date and working equipment? Is there a chance that something may happen at your residence and they may need it? What about when the Police Dept needs to update their body armor or firearms. Will there be a problem with that or are they deserving of having updated equipment? Do the police not only work 5 days a week as well? WHat makes them any more deserving of updated equipment?

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dyingov

Mar-07-13 6:49 PM

Call your insurance company and tell them that you will only have fire coverage 8-4 M-F and request a quote....

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chevyman

Mar-07-13 4:15 PM

The Volunteer Fire Department gets paid by the City to run calls? Does that make them a Paid Department also? If that’s the case, shouldn’t they be evaluated as well to see if they warrant a raise? Does the city over see how their money is spent or are they just handed money to do as they please with? Where does this money come from? Is it from the tax payers?

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PorkChop

Mar-07-13 4:06 PM

So now that I have been thinking about this most of the day, the comment that was made is still getting me laughing. With that being said, it should mean that the Police Department or any of its officer’s, Street Department or any of their employees, or any other full time employee should get any new vehicles or equipment. That just can’t be justified, right? They only work 40 hours a week as do the Fire Department. That must mean that the next time anything comes up about the Police Department will be vote no and saying that it just cannot be justified?

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Shark88

Mar-07-13 4:03 PM

$18K for a fire truck? Does it come with wheels, tank, and an engine?

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walksabout

Mar-07-13 2:32 PM

she should resign so the public can start fresh.She can apply through the vote process if she wants. All the money should be sent back to DC for foreign aid.

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walksabout

Mar-07-13 2:28 PM

wrongheaded backwoods logic. If they have been denied raises, you should equally distribute the money regardless any criteria with notice future raises wil be given under performance evaluation plan. This will give disgruntled employees cause to shape up or get ready to ship out. It will also spare the problem of buddy and cronie rewarding.

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PorkChop

Mar-07-13 9:52 AM

There is yet another City Council member that should have absolutely no say so in the matter concerning either Fire Department due to the fact that he has a son that is a Volunteer, that would be Council member Phil Remke!

How is it even close to being fair to let them vote on matters when they already have a biased opinion on the matter?

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PorkChop

Mar-07-13 9:48 AM

Your very welcome Prettylittlebird. I was just stating on my feelings on this matter. I dont understand how someone could be all for one Department and not the other based on the time that they are there.

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