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Unity Found In Gun Debate

Pro-ownership view dominates in Legislature

March 11, 2013

CHARLESTON (AP) — The West Virginia Legislature has had a few partisan clashes this session, but one issue seems to be uniting Democrats and Republicans: gun rights....

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Wvcoffee

Mar-11-13 6:42 AM

Wait... They're against Dr's asking if you own a gun, to justify counseling, but claim the REAL problem is mentally ill people. Sounds freakin insane!

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GETACLUE

Mar-11-13 7:50 AM

ALL GUNS should be titled, registered, licensed just like automobiles. Any sale of any gun would have to be accompanied by a transfer of title and a new license of the weapon. This should be done for ALL guns. This in no way infringes on the Second Amendment. ANYONE CAUGHT WITH A NON TITLED WEAPON SHOULD RECEIVE A 20 YEAR PRISON TERM WITH NO EARLY RELEASE. My proposal does not INFRINGE on OWNERSHIP. It doesn't prevent or criminalize RESPONSIBLE LAW ABIDING GUN OWNERS from owning as many weapons as they wish. What it does do is make it criminal to transfer ownership of a weapon without the proper background checks and title transfer. IT DOES NOT INFRINGE ON YOUR RIGHT TO OWNERSHIP OF WEAPONS.

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Triton

Mar-11-13 8:44 AM

Its another day in paradise and 180 million law abiding citizens who own firearms committed no crimes with them. Before making new laws to further restrict law abiding citizens right to own property, we should try to enforce the hundreds of gun laws on the books now. As for background checks, who will do those if I want to give my son a shotgun? Is the FBI going to honor my request to have a background check on a family member, or is that something that will cost $200 as a means of restricting ownership. About those background checks, Obama says that last year the Feds thwarted 80,000 attempts by prohibited persons to buy a firearm from a dealer. And not one, ZERO, times did the Fed system warns police in the town of the person denied that a prohibited person was attempting to acquire a firearm. Not once. The Newtown shooter had been denied trying to buy pistol ammo at Dick's sporting goods, the Feds did not mention it to police that a crazy kid was seeking ammo. Why not?

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impact

Mar-11-13 10:19 AM

GETACLUE, you don't understand these people. They live in a shadowy world of intrigue, domestic terrorism, and revolution. They worship people like the Wacko from Waco, Nichols and that ilk. They don't want anyone to know they have guns, so, when the commies take over, they won't be able to seize their weapons. You can't have a rationale debate with people of this mindset, because they don't live in the real world.

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dyingov

Mar-11-13 10:20 AM

Pistols and ammo are almost impossible to find these days!

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mikeyd

Mar-11-13 10:41 AM

impact,us good guys with guns[and i know we've all heard enough of that]are the real homeland security.i won't register my weapons.i pay taxes for my rights.and i protect our neighborhood.everybody here knows it.my dogs are as important as my guns.they tax my dogs and i have to pay extra homeowners insurance for the right to have them.they cost me a lot and i can't claim them as dependents.register guns and the same thing will happen.all registration information will be stored in computers for any hacker to find.us good guys out there don't want all of the guns registered.voluntary is fine.we are not nutcases.

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ShempH

Mar-11-13 10:59 AM

@GETACLUE. I might agree with you with this exception. First and not one second sooner, go to every city and town in America or WV. Make sure every single Drug Dealer and Thug have the proper ownership of their guns and then maybe the rest can follow....but not before, go where the real killing is taking place and not ignore the problem like it is being ignored now.

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daWraith

Mar-11-13 12:30 PM

ClueLazz, do I have to register first to get my FIRST AMENDMENT rights before posting here??

Do I have to register before getting my equal rights from the 14th amendment here?

WHERE in the BILL of RIGHTS to I have the RIGHT to an Automobile???

Can't find it, guess you are full of spit.

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LogHog

Mar-11-13 3:20 PM

cueless and noimpact your posts are boring..always the same lefty view....have you been taking excessive amounts of steroids? because it seems that an important part of being a man has become mighty small on you

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UNCOMMONSENSE

Mar-11-13 3:51 PM

To attempt to override ANYTHING in the bill of rights is pure treason and all those who attempt such action should be hanged!!

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UNCOMMONSENSE

Mar-11-13 3:53 PM

“When a strong man, fully armed, guards his palace, his possessions are safe.” -- Jesus at Luke 11:21

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UNCOMMONSENSE

Mar-11-13 3:55 PM

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms. . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." -- Jefferson's "Commonplace Book," 1774-1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764

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UNCOMMONSENSE

Mar-11-13 3:59 PM

"The Founding Fathers of the United States thought they had found a way to successfully head off the degeneration of governments into pathological monstrosities: ensure that the people remain armed, and teach them that it is part of their duty as free citizens to check the arrogance of government — by threat of armed revolt or by actual revolution, if need be. Thomas Jefferson would have asked why the Jews and Gypsies of Germany allowed themselves to be disarmed by Nazi gun-confiscation laws without rising in revolt — and, more pointedly, why the soi-disant civilized nations of the world did not see the confiscation of civilian weapons as a sure harbinger of the Holocaust to come." -- Eric S. Raymond

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LogHog

Mar-11-13 4:15 PM

uncommonsense....your posts come from a bright light with a free mind.....one question for the second amendment doubters should be..Why is the dept. of homeland security ordering 1.6 billion rounds of ammo? many hollow points? why is this same dept. ordering armored personel carriers? sounds like this dept. is getting ready for a war here in the USA...

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impact

Mar-11-13 4:48 PM

Wrat, you can't kill anyone with words. That analogy is tired.

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Bodyguard

Mar-11-13 8:07 PM

YEA all that reg. lic. for auto, really has cut down on drunk driving, speeding,texting ETC. !! \

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GETACLUE

Mar-11-13 8:17 PM

"YEA all that reg. lic. for auto, really has cut down on drunk driving, speeding,texting ETC. !!"

TRUE However it has cut way down on accidents caused by epileptics, 12 year olds, blind drivers.

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GETACLUE

Mar-11-13 8:20 PM

Titled, registered, licensed fire arms does not INFRINGE ON YOUR OWNERSHIP RIGHTS. Unless you can't pass the background check.

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GETACLUE

Mar-11-13 8:21 PM

The days of fast and furious free wheeling gun dealing are at an end.

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LogHog

Mar-11-13 8:50 PM

drip,drip,drip...the Dems will just keep taking steps to Take away guns from legal citizens hands....1st...all to be registered...then total confiscation at the appointed time...many countries took this same path in history to total control,which caused the murder of millions of their own citizens

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Johnwv93

Mar-11-13 9:03 PM

At least WV will stand for our rights.

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Ragnar

Mar-11-13 10:25 PM

Some public speeches stir up anger and cause violence. Therefore, I propose that anyone who wants to give a public speech or write an Editorial to the newspaper should first register, then pass a background check, pay a $200 fee and give a detailed list of their exact speech to the proper authorities.

This does NOT interfere with Free Speech rights!

Since religion also causes conflict, those wishing to attend church should first register so that the government can keep a list of who belongs to which church. This is a commonsense rule that would protect the children.

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TrollSlayer

Mar-11-13 10:52 PM

GETACLUE “ALL GUNS should be titled, registered, licensed blah blah blah 20 YEAR PRISON TERM WITH NO EARLY RELEASE yadda yadda IT DOES NOT INFRINGE ON YOUR RIGHT screech screech screech...”

Another raving nuts liberal loon screaming ridiculous demands, over and over, that law abiding citizens must give up their Constitutional rights. yawn....

impact “baaa baaaa shadowy world of intrigue, domestic terrorism, and revolution baaa baaa baaa Wacko from Waco, Nichols and that ilk baaa baaa commies baaa baaa baaaaa...”

...and his pet liberal sheep baaa baaa baaa-ing in agreement. Double yawn...

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impact

Mar-12-13 10:53 AM

It's true, isn't it Trollsucker? Just sayin'.

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impact

Mar-12-13 10:54 AM

"Unity Found in Gund Debate". That's a laugh. Only in WV.

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