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Casino Fee Bill Off The Table

Measure dropped from House Judiciary Committee agenda

April 6, 2013

WHEELING — The House of Delegates Judiciary Committee removed the bill to reduce annual table gambling fees by $1 million from its agenda Friday, but local legislators maintain hope it still can be......

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bloomin

Apr-06-13 12:40 AM

Hope the bill is done and WV quits depending on the devils work to fund our state. Hope the casinos close and those addicted go back to fixing dinner and going to the gym. Just say NO

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legal6

Apr-06-13 1:40 AM

Sims says he cares about jobs, then why not stay here and manage the plce well and grow the need for new jobs...to replace the hundreds lost on his watch. No...off to Ohio to steal customers from WV. This could be brutally embarrassing for the Senate President's bill to get gunned down so easily. Of course, it being pushed by an unelected lawyer from Wheeling should be noted to. Where's the bill for tort reform and to improve WV's standing among court performance out of the basement of the Nation? Just keep distracting the voter with this nonsense instead.

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VincentVega

Apr-06-13 3:43 AM

THE BILL IS DEAD!

A week before the end of session and it can't get out of committee? There was no debate.....members just sat there in silence, like lap dogs as Chairman Miley screwed them and the bill into the floor.

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Hefner

Apr-06-13 6:54 AM

This is just a timeout so the boys in the house can make sure they are getting a kickback equal to what the boys in the senate are getting. After all, you have to get your fair share.

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richardwhee

Apr-06-13 2:15 PM

I guess Obama started something with his "Bail Outs" Now any company that can't compete wants one. Let them sink or swim.

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uglyassmf

Apr-06-13 2:47 PM

Have any of the department heads taken any pay cuts? My personal opinion is you don't ask for tax payer help until you show some pain your self. Regardless if they truly are losing money with the table games even if the bill passes they will either severely downsize the table games or eliminate them any way. The workers have very little rights and zero job guarantees and this bill won't change that. Some will still lose their jobs.

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atoddh

Apr-06-13 4:33 PM

folks:The anit gaming interest ss this as an opportunity to eleimnate WD.It will.In addition,MNTG will benefit from no tables at WD.The State may see WD as closing down anyway and wish to "back" MNTG as the NP gaming venue.

It may be best to have one premieer casino/track in the NP area vs two.Not enough action now for two.

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atoddh

Apr-06-13 4:39 PM

folks:when the bill is removed, it is dead.Prople on the Committee have a motive of some sort.WD is DOA now.A gonner. Understand they can leave the fee the same (with the current casinos) and do better without WD.Also they have approved a new casino in Southern WV and the have the Greenbrier.It is to the State's advantage to leave the fee in place and let WD go.Let MNTG pick up the business.

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atoddh

Apr-06-13 4:42 PM

*The State's gaming interests see

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atoddh

Apr-06-13 4:49 PM

One of the attrations feedin WD traffic was JUSA at the Capitol.Proposals to revive the Show were turened away by the City and WCVB.The buses are gone.

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whgfeeling

Apr-06-13 7:32 PM

agree this time with bloomin.

let it go to the dogs. never heard from them when they had only the dogs running. always a profit. could read race re***** in wheeling paper and it showed take in and pay out. alway..always a profit.

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whgfeeling

Apr-06-13 7:33 PM

this site is getting more and more stupid. r e s u l t is stared out?

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atoddh

Apr-06-13 9:09 PM

my posts seem to be missing letters and parts of words.

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atoddh

Apr-06-13 9:12 PM

The Bill is DOA.WD may shut down their tables or try for another year;then quit. From the State's point of view, WD is dispensible.Keep in mind WV has a tax on capital for business.They are not pro business.

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bloomin

Apr-07-13 4:24 AM

Forty years ago, Bingo was not legal in WV and people went to Ohio to play Bingo. How much money can one blow at Bingo (those people were a bit crazy too, reserving space on a table to play 50 cards, get there early to get good seats. Some went several nights per week, spending 30-50 per night. Still much less than the current addicts. Yes, they bus them in, and some travel from other states, but how many are WVians and locals. Go sit outside and watch as people come out-they look like they lost their best friend. People may have addictive personalities, but these regulars have often experienced hardships that leave them preferring machines to people. Spouse died, survivor blowing pension and life insurance. Teen kid killed by drunk driver, parent copes with gambling, woman dated raped and no longer trusts people, turns to this. It targets the most vulnerable. Gaming infers one has a chance-they dont in this. It is legal because state senators and delegates want the tax from it-at the

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bloomin

Apr-07-13 4:34 AM

At the cost to the human public. Elderly gamble half the month, starve the second half. When it was dogs, couples gathered on a Saturday night and socialized. There is no socialization, It is isolation of zombies in a trance. That statement by Storch that every man woman and child would have to pay $400 more per year in tax if the casino closed. No-the state needs to prioritize needs and there would be cuts in programs. Currently, people sell their food card for 50 cents on dollar with hopes of ship coming in. Nonsense. Some miss work to gamble. Former chief of police did. It leads to embezzlement, suicide, job loss, divorce, families going without, mortgage forclosure-so the state can blow more on unnecessary. Care about humans-no breaks so get out of town if you cant deal with paying share.

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bloomin

Apr-07-13 4:39 AM

The big War on Drugs, but no more destructive.

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rltomkinson

Apr-07-13 11:36 AM

It wasn't Obama that started the bail outs, or said that Freddie and Fannie were "too big to be allowed to fail."

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atoddh

Apr-07-13 12:01 PM

Again,a robust JUSA at the Capital would have bolstered Casino attendance.It brought thousands of tourists to Wheeling monthly.A proposal to revamp JUSA before it shutdown was turned away by the City and VCB. Accordingly Wheeling tourism is declining.

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deanminer

Apr-07-13 12:43 PM

With all that the city has lost in the past decades, it's difficult to image the Island without racing. As an owner, I assure you that racing disappears if this bill had of gone through. 3 kennels went under 12-31 with no applications to take their place. In 2003, there were over 100 applicants. The greyhounds provide so many jobs it's difficult to count them all.

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Ladydiamond

Apr-07-13 1:44 PM

It’s never too late to do the right thing. If you take a look at the full parking lots at the Casinos and the coffee shops, you can see for yourself that the addiction is running rampant for hundreds of thousands of WV citizens. Not only is a huge amount of the profits from WV gambling establishments going out of state, never to return to WV but the amount of money left to be spent in WV is meager. You see no significant difference in Senior Citizen facilities or programs nor will you see any significant difference in our education/school facilities or programs. You would think by now we would have the best of everything and state of the art equipment for them. We’re not talking about a few thousand dollars here. We are talking about mega millions of dollars. Gambling addicts are also spending all their regular income and are maxing out credit cards, home equity loans, mortgage loans, depleting their IRA’s, savings, college funds and anything else they can get their hands on to suppor

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Ladydiamond

Apr-07-13 1:45 PM

CONT. on to support this insidious addiction. Some have committed suicide, became homeless, had utilities shut off and can’t even afford to buy their food and medicine. And we have our WV government backing this. I personally can’t say that WV will win any awards for ethical conduct. How far will WV government go to save 105 jobs? End gambling in WV.

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atoddh

Apr-07-13 9:23 PM

dean:Are you for or against the bill? The tables do bring traffic which in turn may enhance racing.WD will not be a comprehensive gaming operation with out the tables. I mention JUSA as entertainment is important to tourism draw.For example,it is very well developed in Vegas and Atlantic City.Wheeling had a unique and iconic attraction with the Show.It created a market for the Casino.

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atoddh

Apr-07-13 9:26 PM

lady:The issue of tables in WV has already been made in favor.WD patrons will go elsewhere, if it closes.Lots of venue options now.

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bloomin

Apr-09-13 5:27 PM

atodd- I hope they do go elsewhere. Eventually those casino's will hold the do the same to their state, and that state will have to decide for themselves if it is worth it.

We are told that the increase of crime here is due to substance abuse, illegal prescription drugs, etc. Any of it related to gambling? If it is, nobody is saying so. Im not convinced. I think gambling addicts are as bad as drug addicts. They will lie, cheat, and steal as well. It seems to be more often an older generation that gambles, particularly empty nesters, the lonely, and those that feel so betrayed by humans they chose a machine. There is a difference in the personality of table gamers vs machine gamblers. All self destructive.

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