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Drillers, Environmentalists Still Concerned

April 14, 2013

PITTSBURGH — Some environmental groups are concerned about the Center for Sustainable Shale Development. So are some industry groups....

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Apr-16-13 8:35 AM

Cleanwater, if “Not sure... it should... they can... it appears to be ... possibly, but not yet definitively... I believe... I thought” is all you got, well, keep babbling that. If you can’t bring facts, bring speculation. The low information crowd might just buy it.

Meanwhile, STILL waiting for that single example of an Ohio Valley fracked water well. Come back when you have something “definitively.”

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Apr-15-13 10:27 AM

But even if wells and frack ponds don't commonly leak in your Ohio/Marshall Co. sites, a new problem is showing up in the huge foam piles at Pike Island L&D and near the municipal water intake in Warwood, WV. What's in the foam? A DEP source says Army Corps found very high strontium and barium, and detectable levels of gross beta, Radium 226, 228, and Uranium 238 in the foam. Those are Marcellus signatures and it appears to be chronic (foaming has been observed since last spring). Traced the foam source to the next tributary upstream (Short Creek), and possibly, but not yet definitively, from the landfill where they've been taking Marcellus drilling muds for a couple of years now. I believe the drilling muds are where these nasties are most concentrated. I thought landfills were not supposed to leak either.

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Apr-15-13 9:42 AM

Not sure if folks are right about there being no leaks with fracked wells since violations are not often publicized, and the companies don't report them or have been paying and settling suits to plaintiffs with condition they don't have to admit fault. So leaks, right? But sick families getting $$ settlements and gag ordered not to discuss the case. I believe if properly done that it's rare that newly fracked wells leak now; it should take decades for the steel and concrete casings to deteriorate, crack, and disbond, despite the high pressure and corrosive nature of brines. But they can and do leak--inspection reports typically cite faulty construction for leaking Marcellus wells. PA inspection reports reveal that 7% of new wells are leaking. That's a bunch considering 6,000 or so wells drilled since 2010 in PA. The storage pits and ponds are what will more readily leak.

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Apr-15-13 12:24 AM

UNCOMMON, nitrogen doesn't work in the Marcellus. Shaped charges? Duhhhhh...

WVUGEO, again, thousands of wells drilled and cracked here already. STILL waiting for you to cite ONE fracked water well here... Since it's so dangerous there MUST be one...

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Apr-14-13 5:15 PM

"mikeyd" is exactly correct. Check out the Wikipedia's article on the "Energy Policy Act of 2005". It tells you a little bit about the fact they don't tell us what's in the frack fluids, and, why they don't have to. An excerpt: "This bill exempted fluids used in the natural gas extraction process of Hydraulic fracturing from protections under the Clean Air Act, Clean Water Act, Safe Drinking Water Act, and the Comprehensive Environmental Response, Compensation, and Liability Act, (i.e., "Superfund"). It created a loophole that exempts companies drilling for natural gas from disclosing the chemicals involved in fracking operations that would normally be required under federal clean water laws. The loophole is commonly known as the "Halliburton loophole" since former Halliburton CEO Dick Cheney was reportedly instrumental in its passage".

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Apr-14-13 11:50 AM

They are simply doing it the CHEAPEST way possible

Cheapest labor and cheapest frack methods

QUALITY labor like we have locally and LOW impact fracking methods like nitrogen and using shaped charges cost more money so it's not likely to happen unless FORCED!!

But by the time the bribed lawmakers do the right thing, they will already be done which is likely the goal

They were ALL warned WELL in advance of the impending destruction of roads and bridges and the risks to drinking water from accidental and WILLFUL discharges yet they did NOTHING!

Now they come up with some "feel good" measures to calm the fears of the public long enough to honor the terms of their bribes!

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Apr-14-13 9:23 AM

can't even get out of them what is in the fracking fluid.

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