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Protesters Fight Planned Plant

Councilwoman among opposition of development

April 22, 2013

WHEELING — About 50 self-proclaimed “water warriors” flowed into Warwood Garden Park Sunday to protest GreenHunter Water’s plans to build a natural gas frack water recycling plant on North 28th......

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mikeyd

Apr-22-13 6:46 AM

continue the good fight people.these gas companies are not here for your benefit.the gas gets exported and the money goes to texas.all we'll end up with are trashy roads and polluted ground and water.take your trash back to texas by truck.it belongs to you not us.

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joeknows

Apr-22-13 8:41 AM

Go back to Texas Greenhunters! Don't tell US we better get used to it when we have concerns about our community! Leave and take your filthy greedy money with you!

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OandSValleyResident

Apr-22-13 8:48 AM

It is great to get concerns out there so the community can ask questions of any company wanting to build something that may cause harm to the community. Just be sure before acting out that the questions are asked and the answers are heard. I am for both things that create jobs and for keeping the community safe. Lets at least see and hear about the entire project before kicking them out of town...We need to hear how they plan on keeping the community safe. This includes how they will prevent spills both on land and in the water if they use the river. What kind of response plan they will have if something would happen that could cause harm to the community and environment.

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TrollSlayer

Apr-22-13 9:40 AM

From the article: Kate Marshall of Warwood also opposes the plant. "Anything that is radioactive does not need to be in Warwood," she said.

Somebody give Kate a Geiger counter and let her read the activity level in her own living room. Then give her a tranquilizer. LOL

Too much Kool-Aid, Kate. But no worries. That facility will go somewhere, and those jobs will go somewhere, and Warwood will remain the thriving economic powerhouse it always was, thanks to pandering politicians like Gloria and the pseudoscientific fearmongering anti-gas loons.

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joeknows

Apr-22-13 9:51 AM

O&S, we are expecting 12 permanent jobs out of this and not necessarily local hires. Their shareholders are the priority, not us. Their business would be illegal if it weren't for the Halliburton loopholes from 2005.

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WVUGEO

Apr-22-13 9:58 AM

"Some of the elements removed from the earth during the fracking process, such as radium and uranium, have shown radioactive tendencies"!?!Radium and Uranium "HAVE SHOWN radioactive TENDENCIES"? They ARE radioactive, Numbskull !!!

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TrollSlayer

Apr-22-13 10:07 AM

Simmer down, WVUGEO. Like yourself, Casey is simply using big words in an attempt to appear scientifically literate. Now tell us all about the cancer deaths and the contaminated water wells you keep mentioning in general, but can’t cite specifically.

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idliketoknow

Apr-22-13 10:08 AM

You've got to love this kindergarten, black and white, yes or no valley we live in. These people are drowning in their own misinformation, they sound dumber by the minute. Like TrollSlayer said, Warwood will continue to boom without this industry...

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WVUGEO

Apr-22-13 10:11 AM

"joeknows" is right on about the Halliburton Loophole; and, that tasty bit of law has been applied to at least four other Federal regulations concerning clean water and air. If you don't know what it is, the Wikipedia has a decent article about it. Don't expect to have it explained to you by the Chesapeake cheerleaders who edit this paper. By the way, in Pennsylvania, doctors treating patients who might have suffered exposure to toxic frack chemicals have to sign a secrecy agreement before the fracking company has to tell the doctor what is in the frack fluids. Might be something similar on the books in WV.

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WVUGEO

Apr-22-13 10:13 AM

Troll: "Radioactive" is too big a word for you?

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TrollSlayer

Apr-22-13 10:14 AM

WVUGEO, Wikipedia is the best source you have? LOL

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idliketoknow

Apr-22-13 10:17 AM

WVUGEO: "Wikipedia has a decent article about it"

Thank god. For a second there I was worried you weren't getting your misinformation filled rants from a credible source or a scholarly journal. What a relief.

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idliketoknow

Apr-22-13 10:18 AM

TrollSlayer, you beat me to it!

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TrollSlayer

Apr-22-13 10:18 AM

LOL

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WVUGEO

Apr-22-13 10:28 AM

In a December, 2012, news release, Penn State University gave a preview of a study that will be published this year: "'Analysis of Marcellus flowback finds high levels of ancient brines'; Brine water that flows back from gas wells in the Marcellus Shale region after hydraulic fracturing is many times more salty than seawater, with high contents of various elements, including radium". The Marcellus, at the behest of the Atomic Energy Commission, was assessed by the US Geologic Survey a few years after WWII as a source of Uranium for making atomic weapons. We'll track down a source document for you; they're more than half a century old. That's how long this fact has been known.

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TrollSlayer

Apr-22-13 10:37 AM

Yes, WVUGEO, flowback water is saltier than seawater, and it contains concentrations of radium that are relatively high when compared to drinking water. So don’t drink it. Now tell me why the concentrations of salt and radium matter when the fluid will be recycled back into wells a mile below the aquifer, or transported out on barges. And tell me the concentration of radium when a spill is mixed with the 8 million liters per second flow of the Ohio River. Start dealing more in facts and numbers, and less in unsubstantiated, unquantified screeching about contamination and cancer deaths and “high” radioactivity. Because you're just needlessly misinforming and scaring the kids, and their scientific IQ is low enough already.

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idliketoknow

Apr-22-13 10:42 AM

WVUGEO, Connate water is encountered in many formations during the drilling process, regardless of target formation. It is about as salty as seawater. In that regard, you are making a mountain out of a mole hill. This issue has been dealt with properly for decades. Virtually every black shale is slighlty radioactive however the levels of radioactivity are minimal. If you're really all that worried about that level of radioactivity, I suggest you take a few steps back from your computer/cell phone. In fact, just turn them off permanently.

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WVUGEO

Apr-22-13 10:46 AM

Troll: The point of treating the frack fluid so that it can be recycled is so that suspended solids and some dissolved minerals can be removed from it. If that didn't need to be done, they would just pump it back down at the well head after letting any entrained gas bubble out. The "sludge" that is left is extremely hazardous. Don't be fooled otherwise. The Coast Guard has so far withheld permission for them to load the stuff onto barges at a similar site near Charleston. The hazards posed by Radium are almost beyond description. It will settle in your bones, accumulate over time, and, through damaged chromosomes, pass an inheritance of disease and disfigurement on to your grandchildren.

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TrollSlayer

Apr-22-13 11:53 AM

Choker, here with more screeching and less facts, again. Since that’s all you have, screech away.

Children of Warwood, there is a future out there for you, just not in Warwood if these howling Neanderthals have anything to say about it. Study hard and base your choices on relevant facts, not the howling of the Neanderthals.

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TrollSlayer

Apr-22-13 11:56 AM

WVUGEO “The "sludge" that is left is extremely hazardous...The hazards posed by Radium are almost beyond description. It will settle in your bones, accumulate over time, and, through damaged chromosomes, pass an inheritance of disease and disfigurement on to your grandchildren.”

Oh boy. More fearmongering from one with no relevant facts to bring. Still waiting for that single documented case of harm to a single OV resident from the THOUSANDS of fracked wells here. If you want a serious discussion bring facts, not irrelevant babble. Otherwise you just look foolish.

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WVUGEO

Apr-22-13 12:19 PM

Further, there just isn't that much gas there to begin with. The numbers this paper and others like to publish, what the gas industry wants to see in print, are what are known as "total reserves", that is, the total amount gas guesstimated to be in the shale. Another number they'll print is "technically recoverable reserves", that is, how much gas you could extract from the "total reserves" if cost were no object. A much, much lower figure is "economically recoverable reserves", which should be self-explanatory. When you see numbers published about how much gas is in the shale, they never tell you which of those they are referring to, although those are standard petroleum industry measures. Another issue is the almost exponential "production decline rate" of fracked shale gas wells. That's something else "they" don't much like to talk, or write, about. Those factors led the DOE to slash it's own Marcellus gas production estim

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WVUGEO

Apr-22-13 12:30 PM

Troll: You inadvertently hit another nail on the head with your "thousands of fracked wells". That is not inaccurate, and speaks directly to faulty economics of shale gas extraction. You need so many wells because it is tough to get the shale to produce gas; the gas won't flow through the tight shale; and, you almost have to frack the shale every inch of the way to get the gas out. That costs money. And, the wells can't be very far apart, or, large pockets of unbroken shale and untapped gas will remain between them. Every estimate of the situation we've seen indicates that the current market price for gas is way below the cost of shale gas production. You do know, do you not, that the whole shale gas phenomenon has been labeled by some investigative reporters as an investment Ponzi scheme, not unlike Enron?

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Wheeldog

Apr-22-13 12:58 PM

Fight the good fight, Gloria and others trying to insure a healthy environment for the community and future generations of children.

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WVUGEO

Apr-22-13 1:16 PM

In an August, 2011, Forbes Magazine article, "Fracking Radiation Targeted By DOE", it was reported that gas well fracking flowback, the "brine that returns to the surface has been found to contain up to 16,000 picoCuries per liter (pCi/L) of radium-226. The discharge limit in effluent for Radium 226 is 60 pCi/L, and the EPA’s drinking water standard is 5 pCi/L".

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mkhunt

Apr-22-13 1:52 PM

the process from beginning to end is toxic and corrupt.before proposal is even considered. 1. demand chemical analysis and radiation testing of all waters involved.2. demand truth in company finances.2little boys were killed in Clarksburg this year when a frac water truck crushed their family car..not enough has been done about this!Had enough? Is there any ethics violation involved? Who is promoting this project?

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