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GreenHunter Water Reveals Its Plans

Jack Confident Facility in Wheeling Will Get Done

May 12, 2013

By CASEY JUNKINS Staff Writer NEW MATAMORAS, Ohio — John Jack is confident that GreenHunter Water’s plans to store nearly 800,000 gallons of natural gas frack water in the Warwood section of Wheelin......

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mikeyd

May-13-13 8:58 AM

they intentionally dumped this stuff directly into the river in wellsburg at the water treatment plant for a solid two months while fracking at brownlee's property.non of us commoners even knew what was going on at the time.but it was done.they have the ability to dump this in the river.find some unpopulated area of the river if you really have to do this.north of wheeling isn't the place.

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BigMike

May-12-13 10:25 PM

NPR March 28,2013: Cheap Natural Gas Pumping New Life Into U.S. Factories

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justmytake

May-12-13 5:36 PM

Not a spaz WVGEO just copy and paste of the conclusions of the presentation your misrepresented.

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WVUGEO

May-12-13 4:02 PM

Sheeesh. Ol' justmytake kinda took himself a spaz, didn't he?

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justmytake

May-12-13 3:26 PM

Oh, never mind. I have a life and am bored with your nonsense. Maybe you should major in geology, or natural science. Then maybe you will learn something about what you claim to understand.

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justmytake

May-12-13 3:24 PM

Please pose an article stating factually the plant is up and running at a profit. It isn't where you said it was. And of course that would be using Chinese slave labor. Hmm Hmm love that Kool-Aid

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justmytake

May-12-13 3:22 PM

HmmHmm love that kool-aid WVUGEO

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justmytake

May-12-13 3:22 PM

Both economic and environmental impacts of coal liquefaction facilities on surrounding areas are expected to be significant

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justmytake

May-12-13 3:21 PM

Cont:

Engineering and operational concerns will continue to surround the development of the worlds first commercial DCL plant

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justmytake

May-12-13 3:21 PM

Instead of cherry picking here are the conclusions of your coal to gasoline study. Hmm. IT IS NOT YET SUCCESSFUL: Successful implementation of the Shenhua projects will result in development of a new coal liquefaction industry and increased use of clean coal technologies

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WVUGEO

May-12-13 3:19 PM

justmytake: The Coal conversion project is, in fact, now up and fully running, and, Shenhua report themselves to making "huge profits" with it.

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WVUGEO

May-12-13 3:17 PM

Search for "Methane Leaks Erode Green Credentials of Natural Gas"; in the journal Nature, January 3, 2013. It explains how the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and the University of Colorado measured and documented very high Methane leaks from a fracked gas field in Utah.

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justmytake

May-12-13 3:15 PM

Justmytake: In a presentation made in 2004, entitled: "Coal to Clean Fuel; The Shenhua Investment in Direct Coal Liquefaction"; West Virginia University reported that Coal could be converted into synthetic petroleum at a cost of $24 per barrel.

Just like everything else you post: I looked at the presentation. The cost is an estimate, not hard numbers. The project is not fully up and running and there are no hard numbers. This is the same experiment that was done in Marshall County in the 1970's. You can not change physics or chemistry. You can post all the "estimated" data you want. Hard numbers are always going to make coal to gasoline too expensive to be feasible. It's known chemistry. You can't get more energy out of a product than you put into it. And of course these estimates are using Chinese slave labor. HmmHmm love the kool-aid.

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rover1958

May-12-13 3:10 PM

over the decades......every wonder why people walk their dogs at twilight or later?

Because they want the dogs to crap on your property and not their own. They don't want bacteria, flies, dead grass, smell, and danger to their little ones on their land....just yours.

And OH, do they howl and threaten law suits and worse if you scream (how dare you swear at me, I'll sue) or if you chase their treasured little pet.

Samo Samo Greengutter Water wanting to stream in endless heavy trucks on your streets, wants chemicals dumped on your River access and YOU to take the risk and costs when leaky old barges burst and split right in front of the city WaterWorks.

These Out-of-Towners are just like pet owners. Gotta get off on YOUR dime...want just the profits and 'adios' suckers!

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BigMike

May-12-13 3:04 PM

WVUGEO. Who are the authors of the Methane leakage study you are referring to?

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BigMike

May-12-13 2:57 PM

"the Navy, as we documented below, know how to convert it (CO2) into jet fuel"

This is one reason our defense budget is so high!

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WVUGEO

May-12-13 2:54 PM

BigMike: There has been more than one study showing the Methane leakage. But, two university studies, at least, done to refute the claim, were funded by the gas industry itself, and, resulted in departures of the prof's who performed them when the universities did independent reviews and/or were criticized when the facts went public.

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WVUGEO

May-12-13 2:49 PM

The CO2 issue should, in any case, be a non-issue. Not only does the Navy, as we documented below, know how to convert it into jet fuel, etc., one company, Carbon Recycling International, in Iceland, is selling Methanol made from CO2 in north European service stations. Bayer Corporation is making the raw materials for certain plastics out of power plant CO2 at a pilot plant in Germany.

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BigMike

May-12-13 2:48 PM

"a number of serious academic studies have stated that Shale gas, especially as extracted by fracking, where some methane is lost, will be worse for global warming than Coal. "

This study has been debunked.

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BigMike

May-12-13 2:47 PM

"Shenhua, the largest Coal mining company in the world, has reported themselves to making "huge profits" from the conversion of Coal into diesel and gasoline. "

FYI: The US EPA has no jurisdiction in China.

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WVUGEO

May-12-13 2:45 PM

As far as CO2 and climate change, given that nat gas is often contaminated with CO2 as it comes out of the ground; and, generates two thirds the CO2 of Coal on a per-Btu generated basis when burned, and, since a lot of the Methane leaks, a number of serious academic studies have stated that Shale gas, especially as extracted by fracking, where some methane is lost, will be worse for global warming than Coal.

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WVUGEO

May-12-13 2:40 PM

Justmytake: In a presentation made in 2004, entitled: "Coal to Clean Fuel; The Shenhua Investment in Direct Coal Liquefaction"; West Virginia University reported that Coal could be converted into synthetic petroleum at a cost of $24 per barrel. Shenhua, the largest Coal mining company in the world, has reported themselves to making "huge profits" from the conversion of Coal into diesel and gasoline.

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BigMike

May-12-13 2:32 PM

At another campaign event in Ohio, VP candidate Biden was asked why the Obama administration was supporting clean coal instead of wind and solar. Senator Biden stated that the campaign was not supporting clean coal and that there would be no more coal factories in the US and any in China should be opened with clean technoligies because coal was killing people in the US.

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BigMike

May-12-13 2:31 PM

In a 2008 interview with the San Francisco Chronicle, Senator Obama flatly asserts that under the cap-and-trade system that he is proposing, coal will not be used. He specifically states that if someone wants to build a coal factory that it will not be illegal, but that under his plan the amount they would have to pay to offset the emissions would bankrupt any attempt to open a new factory.

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BigMike

May-12-13 2:31 PM

At a 2007 campaign event in Virginia, Senator Obama stated that the technology to fully clean coal was not yet available and that his cap-and-trade system would force either a reduction in the use of coal or a technological revolution to clean it.

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