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Frack Water Meeting Tonight

Opponents expected to question planned recycling development

May 22, 2013

WHEELING — Residents referring to themselves as “Wheeling Water Warriors” have the chance to question GreenHunter Water officials about the company’s plans to recycle natural gas frack water in......

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TrollSlayer

May-26-13 10:19 PM

Choker, so you’re independently thinking just like Krugman tells you to think? You can’t make this stuff up, folks. LOL

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TrollSlayer

May-25-13 12:04 PM

Choker “I never said it was fracking liquid.”

...and yet you brought it up in a story about fracking liquid, along with your other comments hyping insinuated dangers of fracking fluid. But if hype of unrelated, unverifiable, fantastic stories is all you got, and you don’t care about the dishonesty of smearing with innuendo rather than presenting verifiable relevant facts, well then go with what you got. It’s why nobody believes you libbies anymore. Any story, no matter how unrelated, will do if it advances your agenda. No moral compass, as we conservatives would say.

And you actually expected us to believe PENNDOT got right on a road job in two days? LOL

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TrollSlayer

May-24-13 2:21 PM

Choker, I didn’t see anywhere in the wjactv article anything about fracking fluid. Or anything about removing asphalt or rotting autos. I did see "PennDot says ... it's not a hazard to residents living in the area." Maybe you could post where that mystery liquid was determined to be fracking fluid requiring road removal. Or is your posting of those unsourced details in a tale about an unknown fluid spill in these comments to a story about fracking just an attempt to throw more mud at the shale gas industry to see if it will stick? Yep. But if fantastic tales about unknown mystery fluids are all you have, well, babble on.

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TrollSlayer

May-23-13 9:34 PM

This wins no toys for me, Choker. My agenda is supporting freedom and opposing disinformation. That’s all I have in it.

Now let’s hear more information about that 3 miles of asphalt the Men in Black secretly removed. What road, what date and time, and were there black helicopters involved? Oooooo....

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BigMike

May-22-13 11:08 PM

You might try right clicking on the link to the file and then selecting 'Save Link As' if you haven't already tried this.

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BigMike

May-22-13 11:02 PM

Sorry Geo but the link is a mile long. I found it by going to the WV DEP website and entering: [ Final Report Water Quality Literature Review and Field Monitoring ] into the Search function. omit the brackets.

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WVUGEO

May-22-13 10:43 PM

BigMike: Can you post an addy for that file? You'll have to write it out sort of: xxx(dot)xxx, or this utility will mangle it so bad it won't be intelligible. We thought we found it, but the one we located wouldn't download for us. Thanks.

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TrollSlayer

May-22-13 10:39 PM

RRafael2 “Trollslayer thinks that children shouldn't be at a rally, or at City Council meetings expressing their concerns for their futures.”

Not what I said, and not true. I said “the children you loons had at the park waving signs you made and shilling for a cause they had no clue about.” Indoctrinating children in your lunacy and then putting them out there as if it was their idea to shill for your cause? Irresponsible parenting. But hey, you can't fight Darwin.

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TrollSlayer

May-22-13 10:28 PM

Choker’s tale about the “mysterious substance” that rotted out his tires and the Men in Black that removed 3 miles of asphalt is pretty entertaining, too. I’m looking for black helicopters now. LOL

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justmytake

May-22-13 9:34 PM

I'm talking about WVUGEO

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BigMike

May-22-13 9:08 PM

Today the Senate Judiciary Committee passed the immigration bill. The full senate will probably vote in early June. Just thought I would mention this fact, since it seems this paper has no inclination to do so.

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BigMike

May-22-13 8:26 PM

<There is more misinformation in these comments than in a presidential campaign. I feel dumber having read through them.>

It would be helpful if you would point out the misinformation. I read through the WVU Water Research Institute report. The Radium levels they found were no where near the levels that some have claimed here. They real potential radiation hazard is to workers in the drilling industry who may be exposed over a long time, their exposure should be carefully monitored.

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justmytake

May-22-13 7:39 PM

There is more misinformation in these comments than in a presidential campaign. I feel dumber having read through them.

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mkhunt

May-22-13 7:24 PM

Talk to the people in Athens, Ohio about waste water disposal wells.Make "Green" Hunter explain what they mean by recycle and treat. Greed Hunter follows LAD here..what happened to LAD and the water plant damage?

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BigMike

May-22-13 5:48 PM

WVUGeo: FYI (pdf file)

Final Report Water Quality Literature Review and Field Monitoring of Active Shale Gas Wells Phase I For “Assessing Environmental Impacts of Horizontal Gas Well Drilling Operations” West Virginia Water Research Institute West Virginia University PO Box 6064 Morgantown, WV 26506-6064 Date: February 15, 2013

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BigMike

May-22-13 5:45 PM

From the article: "Solid waste would go to a landfill outside Parkersburg, W.Va., with liquid waste taken for disposal at one of several deep injection wells." I am no expert on this subject but it seems that most of the radium bearing minerals would be segregated in the recovered solid waste. Also what is the liquid waste? Sludge?

My point is that the although the radioactive waste is "miniscule in volume" its concentration among the solids would be increased. Does the landfill 'near Parkersburg' have radiation monitoring devices?

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billybob

May-22-13 4:29 PM

Famous last words "I got great health insurance but if the company would get wind of my problem I would be gone and not ever work in this industry again". Did I tell you how much I make? Think this can't happen to you? On another note. Oh taxpayers just gave me a raise to stay at least till I can put another ap!!!!! Yep less people mo money and a capital arena white elephant still needing fed FOREVER!

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acousticportal

May-22-13 4:15 PM

Gloria was OK with drilling in Oglebay...

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dyingov

May-22-13 4:07 PM

For the second time in three years, advocacy group Environment America ranked the Ohio River as the most polluted river in the United States.

“It’s still an industrial, working river,” Judy Petersen, executive director of the Kentucky Waterways Alliance, a group not involved with the report, told The Courier-Journal. “It receives a lot of toxic discharges."

Environment America analyzed 2010 data from the Environmental Protection Agency to create its report about factory discharges in waterways.

The environment group's last report, released in 2009, also found that the Ohio River had the most pollution discharge in the nation. Its more recent report found that pollution discharge in the Ohio River has since increased by 1 million pounds, The Courier-Journal reported.

While some of the chemicals discharged into the water are harmless, others can be dangerous even in small doses.

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billybob

May-22-13 3:53 PM

On was to be ONE slip. How many people do you know still giving diet soda to their kids now that cancer warning was allowed to be deleated? People never learn it is only for the green and to h with peoples health. Drillers don't even think of their own families drinking water but just say it can't hurt while they have health problems from the drilling fumes they*****up. Yep ignorant for the buck but say I can't play with the kids cause something is wrong with me (the drilling dad that is)!

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billybob

May-22-13 3:44 PM

My bet this is a done deal with only some of Whg elected in the dark. Jobs and money we don't know about ahead of drinking water for Whg residents. On slip and our water will not be fit to even wash in. Whg residents will not only have to pay for drinking bottled water but all the green backs to pay the bills will slip away with the so called jobs to spoil another site. Only need one slip up out of thousands and you can NOT put life back but hey some had jobs for a little while and the banks can have the houses, cars and toys back to resell again. Just don't drink the water!

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WVUGEO

May-22-13 3:35 PM

You might also want to search for: "Radioactive Gas Drilling Waste Sets Off More Radioactivity Alarms"; May 16, 2013. It's a biased source; but, it cites objective data with verification links. A number of web sources note that drilling waste has triggered radiation alarms more than 1,000 times. That sounds like a lot to us; but, it's definitely happened more than once; and, once should be enough, we would think, for truly concerned people to set disputation aside and get to the bottom of it. Otherwise, you're gambling that people won't be harmed; and, the moral stakes of such a wager are morally unconscionable on any grounds.

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WVUGEO

May-22-13 2:27 PM

RRafael2 is right. And, it has happened multiple times. For just one example, look for Forbes Magazine, April 24, 2013: "Fracking Truck Sets Off Radiation Alarm At Landfill". A quote: "The truck was emitting gamma radiation from radium 226 at almost ten times the level permitted at the landfill." And, that happened with Marcellus wastes not far from Pittsburgh and Wheeling, in Greene County, PA.

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RRafael2

May-22-13 2:16 PM

Trollslayer thinks that children shouldn't be at a rally, or at City Council meetings expressing their concerns for their futures. Why not? They are going to pay the price for your greed. Our kids are smart and they can see the writing on the wall. They are not blinded by financial gain, they just want to live a decent life free of poison and radioactivity. Think they can skirt the radioactivity issue? It's one of the most important issues, because Marcellus is known to be radioactive, and the flowback is radioactive. A truck was recently turned away from a facility in PA because it had NINE TIMES the allowed level of radioactivity. Where did it go? Business really cares about the community it despoils. Right. And no one said they were going to dump it directly into the river. You make a mistake to underestimate our knowledge about this industry. We have done our research, and we mean other than on the financial page. All business is not good business.

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dyingov

May-22-13 1:58 PM

ahhh frack-it!

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