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Ohio Valley Continues To Lose Population

Communities on both sides of the river feel pinch

May 23, 2013

WHEELING — Despite promises of job growth resulting from the local oil and natural gas boom, the aging Upper Ohio Valley has lost an estimated 1....

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bloomin

May-30-13 10:01 AM

These last several posts of wrath and todd and sadly correct. It this continues, which it appears it will, city employees will out number residents. Their annual salaries will be worth more than all of the property. Please dont refer to wheeling as the friendly city-I have never experienced more angry people anywhere. My friend witnessed an accident by Sheets last week while getting gas and saw who make the error and caused. She waited for police. She told the officer (Griffith) that she witnessed and did he want a statement and her name-he told her to go and get out of the way. Was just a fender bender. Vincent our comments have no impact at all. Just a place to get it off your chest-nothing more. Gas folk will leave, while here, they will pay high rent and utilize businesses. When they go, many will close doors.Gonna get alot worse.

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daWraith

May-25-13 7:55 PM

atoddh, afraid you are spot on.

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atoddh

May-25-13 2:17 PM

We are really looking at a 75%-80% decline in the OV when one looks at the national growth.Thta is probably the highest loss in the nation. Note there are hordes of "economic development" specialists drawing big salaries around Wheeling,the OV and WV. What have they done???Meanwhile there is no-none-seed money for new private business starts in WV.Nothing to encourage new business and new jobs.Just millions for "specialists and non profits."

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daWraith

May-25-13 12:06 PM

20K in 2020

Takers?

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atoddh

May-25-13 10:51 AM

folks:understand the USA has grown 30% in the last few decades.Accordingly the losses in the OV are much higher when viewed in the context of the national growth patterns.Wheeling should now have 100K+ residents from natural growth vs 25,000.

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daWraith

May-25-13 8:56 AM

Isn't there some official Village Idiot functions you need to attend to this holiday, blunderedlie?

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daWraith

May-25-13 8:52 AM

wonderwitch, all the rest of the country needs is what is under your ground.

What we Don't need is you drug addict stupid-shat lazy arse union-mentality uneducated toothless worthless-ass so called "work" force.

GTFO of the way.

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wonderwhy

May-25-13 7:47 AM

It is correct duwhop- People in the valley do NOT want racists, bigots and intolerant people living next door. You claim to hate this area so much, yet you sit on this board 24/7/365 claiming to be some great know it all? Gee, why don't you go enjoy YOUR neighborhood? Is this really all you have? Sad

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wonderwhy

May-25-13 7:46 AM

Gee duwhop, that has to be one of your best posts! unreal

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daWraith

May-25-13 7:43 AM

I laugh at all of the cheerleaders here choking on their own spit.

You don't NEED US??? So somebody like Brad Paisley moves out and makes maybe $40 mil a year, pays more taxes than likely the combined total of all of the trailer trash parks in the entire Ohio Valley and you don't "need" him???

The only thing keeping the lights on now there is the gas business and that is 100% OUTSIDERS providing the direction, capital, vision, and management.

The best and brightest LEAVE, becoming successful entrepreneurs starting business in OTHER AREAS of the country.

YES, you DO need us!!!

But your ignorant, narrow-minded, paranoid, crooked back stabbing money-grubbing uneducated backwoods jerkoff pile of drug-addicted population make sure nobody in their right mind would locate there unless it is rape and pillage and pollute the land to make a fast buck and then leave.

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daWraith

May-25-13 7:34 AM

Sorry guys but the truth is Gallup/Healthway rated WV the worst health place in country on virtually every metric. Most mental health issues, highest depression state, highest smoking rate, most obese, most diabetes, etc. etc. Ohio was 45 of 50 too.

Your weather STINKS, your schools are mostly third rate, your colleges are a pathetic no name joke, even WVU is ranked 166th in they country.

Poverty is above state average in a state that way BELOW the average income in the USA.

Young people FLEE in record numbers, the remaining population is one of the OLDESST in the country which means there will be a massive DIE-OFF in the future.

Unless you are a undertaker or caretaker, the job market sux.

The people MAY have been friendly at one time, now they are paranoid of strangers. The massive poverty often brings out the worst in human behavior.

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littlefox

May-24-13 9:09 PM

I'm sorry for you people who hate the OV. Good luck with what you've found to be better. I'd think you would miss the beautiful seasons, the friendly people, the great schools, the birds, and the trees. And the people who value keeping up their lawns, and neighbors who will fix your leaky faucet and expect nothing in return. Have fun in your neighborhoods elsewhere, and good luck with flying palmetto bugs, or scorpions, or hurricanes, or wildfires, or ********ers, or whatever. We'll be alright without you.

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daWraith

May-24-13 5:50 PM

BTW wondrouslies, the topic was why do you live in Death Valley 26003?

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daWraith

May-24-13 5:05 PM

blunderlie 'Please give us an example of your accusations blah blah blah!

OK

"The Justice Department acknowledged late Friday that Attorney General Eric Holder was on board with a search warrant to obtain the personal emails of a Fox News reporter, as media and civil liberties groups continued to raise concerns about the case. "After extensive deliberations, and after following all applicable laws, regulations and policies, the Department sought an appropriately tailored search warrant under the Privacy Protection Act. And a federal magistrate judge made an independent finding that probable cause existed to approve the search warrant," the statement said. The "tailored" search warrant, though, was obtained only after federal officials accused Fox News correspondent James Rosen in an affidavit of being a likely criminal "co-conspirator" under a wartime law known as the Espionage Act.

BBBWAHAHAHAHAH!

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daWraith

May-24-13 5:03 PM

blunderlie "2nd amendment? did we miss something? How has the second amendment been affected by this administration?"

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wonderwhy

May-24-13 5:00 PM

14th? Might want to look that one up too.

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wonderwhy

May-24-13 4:59 PM

2nd amendment? did we miss something? How has the second amendment been affected by this administration?

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wonderwhy

May-24-13 4:52 PM

tried to eliminate fox news? LOL, is that what faux is reporting? LOL

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Shark88

May-24-13 4:51 PM

Projected population of Ohio County in the year 2020 - 40,875

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wonderwhy

May-24-13 4:51 PM

duwhop re-writes history again. Please give us an example of your accusations, and then I will prove you absolutely wrong, with cases of the GOP doing EXACTLY what you accuse the current administration. thanks.

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Shark88

May-24-13 4:49 PM

Ohio County, WV Population:

1940 - 73,115

2010 - 44,443

2011 - 44,246

2012 - 44,075

average decline ~ 400/year

2020 - 2012 = 8 years

8 years x 400/year = 3,200

44,075 - 3,200 = 40,875

From 1940 to 2020 (80 years), a population decrease of ~32,240 or 44% since 1940.

Someone at city hall can do the math on how this will impact future budgets.

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daWraith

May-24-13 4:19 PM

Wheeling: 20,000 in 2020?

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daWraith

May-24-13 1:38 PM

Yeah sure a shame, Vincent, that pesky first amendment that Obamanations tried to eliminate for Fox News.

And that SECOND AMENDMENT, my gawd, what an abortion!!!! Get RID of the sumbich NOW!

And the 10th, who needs that piece of crap!

But by Gawd that 14th Amendment, now THERE is an amendment for you.

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atoddh

May-24-13 1:02 PM

Under the very expensive Federally funded WNHAC plan, Downtown was to be transformed into a regional tourism/entertainment/retail attraction.The historic buildings were to be adaptively reused.JUSA was to be the centerpiece anchor.Hundreds of jobs and new retail business was to evolve.The Artisan Center was to be a showplace for craftspersons(not a pool hall/disco for locals.)Wheeling was given National Historical Park status via Byrd. This approach was selected by the local non-elected "powers" as the solution to Wheeling's decline.

Has this unfolded?Is Downtown a tourism mecca now? Who did benefit?

The one existing salvagable draw a reworked JUSA was turned away.20 plus retailers were forced to leave Downtown by the "plan." Few remain.

Enormous damage has been done with enormous amounts of public money.

Who is responsible?

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WVUGEO

May-24-13 11:06 AM

atoddh said "The gas surge is temporary", and is absolutely correct. About a year and a half ago, the Ohio State University published a study, "The Economic Value of Shale Natural Gas in Ohio", based in part on data from Pennsylvania, where all of this Shale Gas hoo-hah has been underway for a longer period of time. Their conclusion was, in late 2011, and appears unchanged, that, in very rough sum, take whatever the gas industry is saying about the long-term economic benefits of Shale Gas to the areas in which the drilling is being done, and what is being parroted by the press, and, divide by ten. There, basically, isn't going to be any long-term, or follow-on, economic benefit from Shale Gas, once the drilling is done and the migrant drillers have left.

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