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Wheeling Area First Responder Dive Team Is Ready to Get Wet

May 28, 2013

WHEELING — The Wheeling Area Underwater Special Tactics Team has the training and equipment of a major port city dive team and is prepared to bring those capabilities to the waterways of the Ohio......

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wvhoopie2

Jun-02-13 11:51 AM

Now Wheeling has a large dive team, if not larger, than the Pittsburgh River Rescue Unit and City Manager wages higher than the Mayor Salary of Pittsburgh. But, the fuzzy math forget that they have the tax base of village in PA. Cut the cost and stop living on grants which is like living on credit.

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GETACLUE

May-31-13 8:02 AM

My point is you state, "Wheeling SPENT AT LEAST $24,000 on a corpse recovery team." This statement is a BOLD FACED LIE meant to shock. Wheeling spent $15,000 HOMELAND SECURITY GRANT and NOTHING MORE. As I have stated previously your rant has had more holes shot in it than a quality Baby Swiss Cheese.

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TrollSlayer

May-30-13 4:49 PM

GETACLUE “don't understand why you insist in including any future costs into your spending estament”

Clueless, you don't know it, but you just hit the nail on the head. You libbies never understand why future costs are important. Explains why you’ve got our children $17 TRILLION in debt, not counting the additional HUNDRED TRILLION or so in Social Security debt, Medicare debt, Obamacare debt, ...

You don’t understand why future costs are important? Oh. My. God. And “estament”? Really? LOL

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GETACLUE

May-30-13 4:20 PM

Wheeling spent $15,000 HOMELAND SECURITY GRANT. Nothing more don't understand why you insist in including any future costs into your spending estament unless it is to MISLEAD for SHOCK VALUE. As I have already stated the furture costs will be very minimal and well worth the investmentas most would agree.

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TrollSlayer

May-29-13 7:37 PM

Now compare that to how long it takes for a submerged SUV to fill with water (at most two minutes), plus how long after that you can hold your breath (at most two minutes), plus how long it takes you to die from drowning (about four minutes). Eight minutes or less, not counting the time to make the 911 call.

Sorry. Best case, two minutes too late. Wheeling spent at least $24,000 on a corpse recovery team. Corpse recovery is a valuable and necessary function, but not for $24,000. Two or three personnel with scuba training would do, for a tenth of that cost. But, hey, it’s not your money...

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TrollSlayer

May-29-13 7:36 PM

Insiider, since you can’t explain further, because the complete answer doesn’t fit your view of reality, I’ll help.

Find a stopwatch and see how long it takes one of Wheeling’s “underwater special tactics team” to retrieve their dive gear from Clueless’s free WFD storage room (at best one minute). Add how long it takes to transport them from the nearest fire station to the nearest submerged SUV (at least four minutes). Then add how long it takes for them to suit up in full dive gear and then get themselves and their gear from the truck to the submerged SUV (at best five minutes). Ten minutes at best to reach those poor folks.

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Insiider

May-29-13 6:41 PM

"silliest comment" lololol.. So 1-2 dive team members are on duty. Response would be rapid, takes a few minutes to completely submerge or fill the cabin with water if the vehicle's windows and doors are closed. I don't need to explain further.

IN ALL.... those of you boohooing about "my tax dollars" would be the first to CRY...WHINE..BIT......... about how officials WERE NOT PREPARED. That's what satisfies me about these so called "tax payers". Just come onto the intelligencer website to see the finest keyboard warriors in the valley.....HAH

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F15Eagle

May-29-13 12:47 PM

easy-now, girls...easy --& stand-up, stetch-out..get those panties out of the twist..& get your heads out of those computers.. go on outside/it's Nice out there.-take a break.heh-heh-heh-heeehah..

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TrollSlayer

May-29-13 11:57 AM

But looking back, the silliest comment has to be Insiider’s insistence that Wheeling’s “underwater special tactics team” will be rapidly responding to save citizens trapped in submerged SUVs. Seriously... Maybe they could have spent that $20,000 to put Clueless's zero-cost-to-maintain scuba tanks in all the SUVs instead, so those citizens will have something to breathe while they wait...

Wheeling really should have spent that $20,000 on another Can-Am Spyder. Now THERE’S an effective use of tax dollars. The bad guys are thinking, “Stay out of Wheeling, boys. They have Spyders!”

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TrollSlayer

May-29-13 11:34 AM

Clueless STILL trying to explain how the $20,000 in total costs HE listed himself aren’t “tens of thousands of dollars.” Math ain’t your strong suit, Clueless, and denial ain’t just a river in Egypt. Now here’s another departing gift. LOL Buh bye...

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GETACLUE

May-29-13 10:41 AM

Toolsucker grasping at straws with a foot in his mouth......quite the feet....errr I mean feat.

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TrollSlayer

May-29-13 9:49 AM

Oops, “are free.” Which they AREN’T. But to a Clueless Government tool they are. LOL

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TrollSlayer

May-29-13 9:47 AM

So then, Clueless, it’s just $15,000 for the initial equipment and training, and $5000 for the refresher training, which is $20,000, which is, AS I SAID, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. And more every year after that. Now take your “TENS OF THOUSANDS that you keep regurgitating” foot out of your mouth and enjoy that parting gift. Here’s another parting gift so maybe you’ll figure out what a parting gift is for. LOL

Oh, since rooms in the firehouse is free, please reserve one of those rooms for me to store future parting gifts in. Heck, reserve two, since they’re free... Here, put these in for you to enjoy later. LOL LOL LOL

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GETACLUE

May-29-13 9:24 AM

"How much does the specialized training cost to certify those WFD personnel to maintain and inspect scuba gear? How much for the specialized equipment necessary to properly maintain and inspect scuba gear?"

All of these costs were already in covered due to the fact that the WFD uses and maintains it own SCBA for Firefighting. The cost of storage is nothing as the fire station already exists it is not as if a new station has to be built. PLEASE just give up you are making an ARSE out of yourself. Just because you stuck your foot in your mouth does not mean you have to lick between the toes.

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TrollSlayer

May-29-13 8:40 AM

GETACLUE “the equipment will be stored at a WFD Station so no cost there either”

So the WFD Station is free? Silly me. I thought my fire service fees and property taxes paid for that station. We should just build fire stations instead of homes and live in them for free... Derrrrr....

Clueless, I suspect you slightly underestimated the TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS this boondoggle will cost TAXPAYERS. Not you, of course. You’re getting paid for this boondoggle, so no wonder you’re unconcerned about the cost.

Keep your stinky cheese. Here’s your parting gift. LOL

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TrollSlayer

May-29-13 8:38 AM

GETACLUE “I doubt that training costs would even reach the $5,000 dollar mark let alone the TENS OF THOUSANDS that you keep regurgitating.”

So that’s $15,000 for the initial cost of equipment and training, followed by $5,000 for follow on training, which is TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS in the first year alone. Then there’s more follow-on training, and repair and replacement of expired and faulty equipment, and regular inspections of tanks and regulators and...

GETACLUE “WFD has CERTIFIED personnel that can do all of the maintenance and inspection.”

How much does the specialized training cost to certify those WFD personnel to maintain and inspect scuba gear? How much for the specialized equipment necessary to properly maintain and inspect scuba gear? A few thousand more? mmm hmmm... So now, as I said, we’re in for WELL OVER TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS...

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GETACLUE

May-29-13 8:22 AM

"24-hour quick response team" , "Earning double overtime"

JUST SAY NO TO DRUGS!!! READING IS FUNDAMENTAL!!! I have shot more holes in your rant than you will find in a quality BABY SWISS CHEESE. thanks for playing, don't forget to pick up your parting gift.

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GETACLUE

May-29-13 8:14 AM

For "maintenance, replacement, storage, and inspections of all that equipment. Month after month after month"

WFD has CERTIFIED personnel that can do all of the maintenance and inspection. The equipment is brand new so replacement costs aren't even a consideration for many years to come ,the equipment will be stored at a WFD Station so no cost there either.

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daWraith

May-29-13 8:09 AM

Now that Ted Kennedy is dead, do they really NEED a team like this?

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daWraith

May-29-13 8:07 AM

"Say an SUV with 4-6 people inside plunges into the river."

Uuuh, they either swim or die. By the time the team gets there, all done.

Suppose a boat capsizes: same answer.

Seem like mostly this team will be retrieving BODIES, not saving lives.

Except possibly with the floods that recur in the OV. But then that not likely the model this team is designed to work in.

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GETACLUE

May-29-13 8:03 AM

Monthly training will be conducted in the Ohio river or near by LOCAL LAKE for 8 months out of the year, the other 4 months may require a day trip to Mount Storm WV to the Mt Storm Power Plant lake where the water is warm year round. Either way the costs should be minimal. I doubt that training costs would even reach the $5,000 dollar mark let alone the TENS OF THOUSANDS that you keep regurgitating.

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TrollSlayer

May-28-13 10:03 PM

Insiider “Say an SUV with 4-6 people inside plunges into the river...”

So this is a 24-hour quick response team? Suited up with equipment at the ready to rescue a family from an SUV in mere minutes? Riiiiight. LOL It takes fifteen minutes to get an on-duty patrol car to an auto accident downtown. Those poor folks are dead. Your “underwater special tactics team” will be a highly-trained superbly-equipped ridiculously-expensive corpse recovery team. Earning double overtime if they're interrupted if that SUV hits the water when they're "at home eating dinner."

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TrollSlayer

May-28-13 9:54 PM

Clueless, now how many tens of thousands every year to conduct the monthly training for all 24 frogmen, and for maintenance, replacement, storage, and inspections of all that equipment. Month after month after month...

A warning: if you say $15,000 I’m going to LOL at you.

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GETACLUE

May-28-13 8:07 PM

No EXTRA PAY for dive team members, if they would be called out while off duty they would recieve regular overtime pay just as they would if they were called out to a fire or any other incident.

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Insiider

May-28-13 7:38 PM

Troll, a 2-3 man dive team is efficient enough? Say an SUV with 4-6 people inside plunges into the river..... and 2 of the 3 members are away at training and cannot respond? I guess in your world 2-3 is reasonable enough lol.

I'm sure being in specialized positions within a department does not warrant a pay increase. After all, that goes through the city manager. Now, I'm sure if they are at home eating dinner and are called out to a water rescue, pay would then be adjusted.

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