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Wheeling Area First Responder Dive Team Is Ready to Get Wet

May 28, 2013

WHEELING — The Wheeling Area Underwater Special Tactics Team has the training and equipment of a major port city dive team and is prepared to bring those capabilities to the waterways of the Ohio......

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TrollSlayer

May-28-13 12:50 AM

How did the Wheeling area survive all these years without a 24-man “underwater special tactics team”? Just think - if this critical capability had been implemented fifteen years ago those three cars might have been salvaged before becoming hopelessly mired in muck. How many tens of thousands of taxpayer dollars did it cost to equip and train these 24 brave protectors of the murky depths of our local harbors and waterways? And how many tens of thousands more to maintain and train them every month for the next fifteen years? No matter; the cost is irrelevant, as I feel so much safer already knowing Wheeling’s coastline is secure.

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Insiider

May-28-13 3:28 AM

Troll, it's all about the capability. If the need arises, in 1 year, or 10 years from now, it will be available. The same people who criticize the police or fire department for "going over the top" are the first to complain that both departments ARE NOT DOING ENOUGH.

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Insiider

May-28-13 3:30 AM

Sort of reminds me of the extensive security at Marathon's around the country. Those who complain of the inconvenience and "tax payer" money not well spent, are the same people who would be the first in line to complain that the police/government didn't do enough to protect the citizens and WERE NOT PREPARED. Heads up, the members of both the police and fire department's PAY TAXES.

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TrollSlayer

May-28-13 8:07 AM

Please. A 24 man underwater force for Wheeling? Just another taxpayer-funded union-driven boondoggle. Two or three men trained in scuba would be sufficient. Will they now be patrolling the bottom of the river in eight-man teams? What a joke.

And you think your own taxes will cover the cost for this, Insiider? Even more ridiculous. Taxpayer dollars should go where they're needed most, and an "underwater special tactics team" in a little town with one river running through it isn't that by a long shot.

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Triton

May-28-13 8:24 AM

Actually the Wheeling area was always served by a dive team, usually known as the Ohio Valley Dive Team, but there is a need for a dive team in an area with so much river traffic and one of America's largest rivers. Training two days a month hardly sounds like a taxpayer boon doggle especially since many of the members do not get paid. I was surprised some time ago to find that Huntington is one of America's largest, by tonnage, ports even though its a river port. It was a full time Coast Guard unit stationed there. The Dive Team is a positive thing. Its OK to be positive. Now go get those kids off your lawn before they ruin you grass.

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TrollSlayer

May-28-13 8:41 AM

Triton, I was hoping the police would be keeping the kids off my lawn, but it appears they’re now busy patrolling the bottom of the river for terrorists. Now get off my lawn, you little hooligans...

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GETACLUE

May-28-13 6:03 PM

" How many tens of thousands of taxpayer dollars did it cost to equip and train these 24 brave protectors"

ANSWER: $15,000 NEXT QUESTION

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richardwhee

May-28-13 7:17 PM

Question-- Do they get extra pay to qualify, and will it continue in every pay chech? OR- Do they get extra pay for every actual rescue? {Not Practice] I have a feeling that it's just another way to soak we taxpayers.

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Insiider

May-28-13 7:38 PM

Troll, a 2-3 man dive team is efficient enough? Say an SUV with 4-6 people inside plunges into the river..... and 2 of the 3 members are away at training and cannot respond? I guess in your world 2-3 is reasonable enough lol.

I'm sure being in specialized positions within a department does not warrant a pay increase. After all, that goes through the city manager. Now, I'm sure if they are at home eating dinner and are called out to a water rescue, pay would then be adjusted.

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GETACLUE

May-28-13 8:07 PM

No EXTRA PAY for dive team members, if they would be called out while off duty they would recieve regular overtime pay just as they would if they were called out to a fire or any other incident.

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TrollSlayer

May-28-13 9:54 PM

Clueless, now how many tens of thousands every year to conduct the monthly training for all 24 frogmen, and for maintenance, replacement, storage, and inspections of all that equipment. Month after month after month...

A warning: if you say $15,000 I’m going to LOL at you.

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TrollSlayer

May-28-13 10:03 PM

Insiider “Say an SUV with 4-6 people inside plunges into the river...”

So this is a 24-hour quick response team? Suited up with equipment at the ready to rescue a family from an SUV in mere minutes? Riiiiight. LOL It takes fifteen minutes to get an on-duty patrol car to an auto accident downtown. Those poor folks are dead. Your “underwater special tactics team” will be a highly-trained superbly-equipped ridiculously-expensive corpse recovery team. Earning double overtime if they're interrupted if that SUV hits the water when they're "at home eating dinner."

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GETACLUE

May-29-13 8:03 AM

Monthly training will be conducted in the Ohio river or near by LOCAL LAKE for 8 months out of the year, the other 4 months may require a day trip to Mount Storm WV to the Mt Storm Power Plant lake where the water is warm year round. Either way the costs should be minimal. I doubt that training costs would even reach the $5,000 dollar mark let alone the TENS OF THOUSANDS that you keep regurgitating.

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daWraith

May-29-13 8:07 AM

"Say an SUV with 4-6 people inside plunges into the river."

Uuuh, they either swim or die. By the time the team gets there, all done.

Suppose a boat capsizes: same answer.

Seem like mostly this team will be retrieving BODIES, not saving lives.

Except possibly with the floods that recur in the OV. But then that not likely the model this team is designed to work in.

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daWraith

May-29-13 8:09 AM

Now that Ted Kennedy is dead, do they really NEED a team like this?

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GETACLUE

May-29-13 8:14 AM

For "maintenance, replacement, storage, and inspections of all that equipment. Month after month after month"

WFD has CERTIFIED personnel that can do all of the maintenance and inspection. The equipment is brand new so replacement costs aren't even a consideration for many years to come ,the equipment will be stored at a WFD Station so no cost there either.

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GETACLUE

May-29-13 8:22 AM

"24-hour quick response team" , "Earning double overtime"

JUST SAY NO TO DRUGS!!! READING IS FUNDAMENTAL!!! I have shot more holes in your rant than you will find in a quality BABY SWISS CHEESE. thanks for playing, don't forget to pick up your parting gift.

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TrollSlayer

May-29-13 8:38 AM

GETACLUE “I doubt that training costs would even reach the $5,000 dollar mark let alone the TENS OF THOUSANDS that you keep regurgitating.”

So that’s $15,000 for the initial cost of equipment and training, followed by $5,000 for follow on training, which is TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS in the first year alone. Then there’s more follow-on training, and repair and replacement of expired and faulty equipment, and regular inspections of tanks and regulators and...

GETACLUE “WFD has CERTIFIED personnel that can do all of the maintenance and inspection.”

How much does the specialized training cost to certify those WFD personnel to maintain and inspect scuba gear? How much for the specialized equipment necessary to properly maintain and inspect scuba gear? A few thousand more? mmm hmmm... So now, as I said, we’re in for WELL OVER TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS...

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TrollSlayer

May-29-13 8:40 AM

GETACLUE “the equipment will be stored at a WFD Station so no cost there either”

So the WFD Station is free? Silly me. I thought my fire service fees and property taxes paid for that station. We should just build fire stations instead of homes and live in them for free... Derrrrr....

Clueless, I suspect you slightly underestimated the TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS this boondoggle will cost TAXPAYERS. Not you, of course. You’re getting paid for this boondoggle, so no wonder you’re unconcerned about the cost.

Keep your stinky cheese. Here’s your parting gift. LOL

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GETACLUE

May-29-13 9:24 AM

"How much does the specialized training cost to certify those WFD personnel to maintain and inspect scuba gear? How much for the specialized equipment necessary to properly maintain and inspect scuba gear?"

All of these costs were already in covered due to the fact that the WFD uses and maintains it own SCBA for Firefighting. The cost of storage is nothing as the fire station already exists it is not as if a new station has to be built. PLEASE just give up you are making an ARSE out of yourself. Just because you stuck your foot in your mouth does not mean you have to lick between the toes.

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TrollSlayer

May-29-13 9:47 AM

So then, Clueless, it’s just $15,000 for the initial equipment and training, and $5000 for the refresher training, which is $20,000, which is, AS I SAID, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. And more every year after that. Now take your “TENS OF THOUSANDS that you keep regurgitating” foot out of your mouth and enjoy that parting gift. Here’s another parting gift so maybe you’ll figure out what a parting gift is for. LOL

Oh, since rooms in the firehouse is free, please reserve one of those rooms for me to store future parting gifts in. Heck, reserve two, since they’re free... Here, put these in for you to enjoy later. LOL LOL LOL

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TrollSlayer

May-29-13 9:49 AM

Oops, “are free.” Which they AREN’T. But to a Clueless Government tool they are. LOL

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GETACLUE

May-29-13 10:41 AM

Toolsucker grasping at straws with a foot in his mouth......quite the feet....errr I mean feat.

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TrollSlayer

May-29-13 11:34 AM

Clueless STILL trying to explain how the $20,000 in total costs HE listed himself aren’t “tens of thousands of dollars.” Math ain’t your strong suit, Clueless, and denial ain’t just a river in Egypt. Now here’s another departing gift. LOL Buh bye...

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TrollSlayer

May-29-13 11:57 AM

But looking back, the silliest comment has to be Insiider’s insistence that Wheeling’s “underwater special tactics team” will be rapidly responding to save citizens trapped in submerged SUVs. Seriously... Maybe they could have spent that $20,000 to put Clueless's zero-cost-to-maintain scuba tanks in all the SUVs instead, so those citizens will have something to breathe while they wait...

Wheeling really should have spent that $20,000 on another Can-Am Spyder. Now THERE’S an effective use of tax dollars. The bad guys are thinking, “Stay out of Wheeling, boys. They have Spyders!”

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