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Opposition to GreenHunter Frack Water Plant Persists

Company officials expected to present site plan next week

June 5, 2013

As GreenHunter Water officials prepare to present their site plan for a proposed frack wastewater recycling facility in Warwood to the Wheeling Planning Commission next week, residents who fear for......

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TrollSlayer

Jun-08-13 7:33 PM

You can get a second LOL on that.

LOL

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TrollSlayer

Jun-07-13 6:59 PM

Choker, I’m just glad you or any other Warwoodites don’t put anything into the sewer. Because if your own sewage was being dumped into our river – your cleansers and your bleaches and your detergentsyou're your unmetabolized pharmaceuticals and your other nasty bodily wastes - that would make you hypocrites.

And don’t get me started on what you surely don’t put into the landfill so you don’t contaminate our water table... LOL

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TrollSlayer

Jun-06-13 9:51 AM

And GEO, keep telling those ignorant gas companies that there really isn’t that much gas down there. Because if you can convince those dunces of that it will save them the BILLIONS they’re spending on extracting TRILLIONS of cubic feet of it. Derrrr...

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TrollSlayer

Jun-06-13 9:50 AM

GEO, that’s a great idea. We should truck SEWAGE and COAL into Warwood. Convert that old industrial-zoned gasoline transfer site into a sewage and coal to gasoline facility, and then truck or barge out the gasoline AND any waste material from that very clean process out to the landfill. Any effluent can just go into the river. No potential for environmental damage there. And it will be so clean and quiet and fragrant and nice... WAAAAAY cleaner than natural gas... mmm mmm mmm

Wonder why coal boosters like GEO are so opposed to disposing of gas industry waste a mile underground where it came from, but see sewage and coal to gasoline as the clean, green solution to our energy needs. Derrrr...

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WVUGEO

Jun-06-13 9:22 AM

You know, it's just a shame that so much ink has to be wasted on the trials and tribulations of a transient, low-energy-density resource like shale gas, when West Virginia University was just awarded. on May 28: "United States Patent 8,449,632 - Sewage Material in Coal Liquefaction", a technology wherein renewable wastes, like sewage plant sludge, and renewable agricultural products, like vegetable oil, can be converted along with Coal into a synthetic crude oil that works just fine as a feed into a standard petroleum refinery. Coal is a vast resource, unlike shale gas; and, with stuff like sewage sludge and vegetable oil, it can be very nearly carbon-neutral and sustainable over the long haul.

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mikeyd

Jun-06-13 9:22 AM

fix the law then so that it applies equally to all.we the commoners will voice our opinion.we can't enforce laws where there are none.politicians and their government agencies have left this state to hang.they are a sheltered bunch.big companies no matter what product they are producing know what and how to get away with making a buck at whatever cost.by the time that any regulations are put on these gas companies they'll have made their money and be gone.how long did these mills around here pollute before anything was done? i can remember the river being closed to swimming when i was young because it was polluted.we have been raped by company owners before.we have learned.

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TrollSlayer

Jun-06-13 9:05 AM

So because law enforcement that oversees an industry is broken we should outlaw the industry rather than fix the law enforcement problem. Check.

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mikeyd

Jun-06-13 8:24 AM

gun owners breaking the law will go to jail.these people won't be touched.

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TrollSlayer

Jun-06-13 8:11 AM

... and since a few gun owners break the law with guns we should ban guns. Makes just as much sense.

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mikeyd

Jun-06-13 7:13 AM

and yet we read of more illegal dumping from another company.yea,we'll believe whatever.

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TrollSlayer

Jun-05-13 10:06 PM

And since it also got edged off the bottom of this page, we'll - sorry, GEO! - repeat it, too:

Humans won't be exposed to fracking flowback because it will be contained in pipes, trucks, and barges, and it won't be industrial effluent because it won't be dumped into the river. More disinformation from you, WVUGEO. yawn...

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TrollSlayer

Jun-05-13 10:03 PM

mikeyd, so because one company broke the law that means ALL companies will break the law? Duh...

And the people of Wellsburg still look pretty normal to me. Maybe they drink only bottled water...

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mikeyd

Jun-05-13 9:51 PM

"won't be dumped in the river".tell that to the people of wellsburg.

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WVUGEO

Jun-05-13 8:41 PM

Since it got edged off the bottom of this page, we'll - sorry, Troll! - repeat it: You are being misled by this article. The "2011 U.S. Geological Survey study on the presence of radium in fracking wastewater" says a lot, lot more than "radium levels are higher in produced water from the Marcellus Shale compared with other shale formations in the Appalachian Basin". The amounts of radium measured by the USGS in the Marcellus fracking wastewater, as reported by the study, were in some cases thousands of times higher than US Government-established limits for human exposure and hundreds of times higher than US Government-established limits for industrial waste. This has nothing to do with comparing Marcellus "produced water" with that from other formations.

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TrollSlayer

Jun-05-13 6:19 PM

Maybe gas severance taxes are down because gas production is already in decline as WVUGEO warned us about. Or maybe gas severance taxes are down this year because gas consumption is down because the Obama economy STILL suxxxxxx...

Derrrrrr...

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WVUGEO

Jun-05-13 5:25 PM

Did everyone know that gas severance taxes paid to the WV State Government have actually declined significantly since 2009? They were up a little in 2012, relative to 2011 and 2010; but, all three years were well below 2009. With all of this activity being reported in the press, what's up with that? The info is accessible on the WV State Treasurer's Office web site.

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TrollSlayer

Jun-05-13 4:57 PM

WVUGEO “urging caution with regards to what benefit can be expected from shale gas”

So since you antifrackers aren’t making a buck from this, nobody should. Typical envious liberals. Maybe you’ll be a little more willing to accept the “dangers” of fracking if they’ll “spread he wealth around a little”?

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TrollSlayer

Jun-05-13 4:53 PM

WVUGEO “One spill is all it would take to contaminate your water.”

As other posters have pointed out, one company – not GreenHunter – dumped 20,000 gallons of fracking flowback into the river at Youngstown. Six times between November 2012 and January 2013. Where’s the contamination? Where’s all the cancer, death, destruction from that? Are you still drinking Warwood’s water, and do you glow now?

Proof your babble that “one spill is all it would take” is just babble. Yawn...

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dyingov

Jun-05-13 4:53 PM

North of St Louis, MO they have shut down the waste water plant (Mississippi is a flooding again) and will be releasing 2.7 million gallons of waste water into the river per day, until the river drops below 40 feet.

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WVUGEO

Jun-05-13 4:30 PM

Further, even pro-fossil fuel professionals are now urging caution with regards to what benefit can be expected from shale gas. "Sharp declines in per-well production are to be expected" is one phrase often repeated. It is not uncommon for royalty payments to drop by 75% after the first year of production; and, then, by more than 20% in successive years. Info concerning that can be found, for instance, on "Geology(dot)com". It is just very, very difficult to see what lasting economic benefit will accrue to your area once all the wells are drilled and the migrant drillers have moved on. The fact that Greenhunter didn't even want to pave their parking lot should tell you something about how long the pros think all of this will last. After the drilling is done, who will remain employed in your area? Who will be frequenting your stores?

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WVUGEO

Jun-05-13 4:28 PM

One spill is all it would take to contaminate your water. Further, what about the solid waste? Trucks laden with solid frack waste have been tripping radiation alarms at landfills in PA and OH, and been turned away. At least three incidents of that are documented in PA and OH. Reports we can't substantiate have that such has happened many, many times; and, some frack waste truck drivers are beginning to voice concerns.

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idliketoknow

Jun-05-13 4:19 PM

"Unfortunately, it is coming back up to the surface, in frack flowback."

Right, and the flowback is contained throughout the entire process. What's your point? I would bet most enviros think flowback is when fracturing fluid comes shooting out of the well and sprays all over the well pad, and people like you would convince them of that in a heartbeat.

Oh by the way, have you found that single documented case of groundwater contamination from a hydraulic fracturing process? Or how about that radium contamination case study?

That's what I thought...

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WVUGEO

Jun-05-13 4:11 PM

idliketoknow: Unfortunately, it is coming back up to the surface, in frack flowback. That's what the Wheeling/Warwood plant is all about. Everyone might want to search for "Fracking Ourselves to Death in Pennsylvania". A lot of comments about personal experiences are appended. Sorry, we don't seem able to post links. The radium thing is quite real, by the way. Maybe we'll track it down again and post the specifics, but, back in the decades after WWII, it was well known that the deep shales, Marcellus included, contained radioactive elements in relatively high amounts; and the US Geologic Survey was charged by the Atomic Energy Commission with assessing the shales as sources of raw material for making nuclear weapons.

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idliketoknow

Jun-05-13 3:44 PM

"They do not even, by Federal Law, have to tell you what it is they are injecting into the groundwater, into your environment, beneath your feet"

My "environment" is on the surface, not 5,000 feet underground. Common, I know you're a coal guy but surely you took those hydrology classes at WVU, you know d*** well that water isn't coming back anywhere close to the surface.

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TrollSlayer

Jun-05-13 3:33 PM

WVUGEO “They do not even, by Federal Law, have to tell you what it is they are injecting into the groundwater”

More disinformation from WVUGEO. It’s not being injected into groundwater. More lies from the antifrackers. Yawn...

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