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McKinley Re-Introduces Fly Ash Bill, Expects No EPA Opposition

June 5, 2013

Rep. David B. McKinley re-introduced his bill regarding regulation of coal ash Tuesday, and he suspects the Environmental Protection Agency will support the measure as Congress considers it this time....

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TrollSlayer

Jun-06-13 2:40 PM

And radium made great glow-in-the-dark watch faces. Maybe you won’t need street lights after RADIOACTIVE coal ash makes the streets glow.

How’s that for disinformation for you, GEO? Not so fun when you’re on the receiving end, eh?

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WVUGEO

Jun-06-13 2:17 PM

The US EPA used to support the productive use of Coal Ash. In fact, the Ronald Reagan Office Building in DC, which is home to the US EPA headquarters, has a lot of Coal Fly Ash blended into the concrete out of which it is made. The CertainTeed company tells you about it on their web site. The EPA used explain it on theirs, even had a program to support the development of more beneficial uses for Coal Ash, but all of that seems to have been taken down. The Federal Highways Administration still promotes the use of Coal Ash as a fine aggregate for concrete; says it makes the concrete stronger and more resistant to stuff like deicing chemicals.

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TrollSlayer

Jun-06-13 9:49 AM

And GEO, keep telling those ignorant gas companies that there really isn’t that much gas down there. Because if you can convince those dunces of that it will save them the BILLIONS they’re spending on extracting TRILLIONS of cubic feet of it. Derrrr...

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TrollSlayer

Jun-06-13 9:48 AM

GEO, that’s a great idea. We should truck SEWAGE and COAL into Warwood. Convert that old industrial-zoned gasoline transfer site into a sewage and coal to gasoline facility, and then truck or barge out the gasoline AND any waste material from that very clean process out to the landfill. Any effluent can just go into the river. No potential for environmental damage there. And it will be so clean and quiet and fragrant and nice... WAAAAAY cleaner than natural gas... mmm mmm mmm

Wonder why coal boosters like GEO are so opposed to disposing of gas industry waste a mile underground where it came from, but see sewage and coal to gasoline as the clean, green solution to our energy needs. Derrrr...

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WVUGEO

Jun-06-13 9:35 AM

PS: You know, it's just a shame that so much ink has to be wasted on the trials and tribulations of a transient, low-energy-density resource like shale gas, when West Virginia University was just awarded. on May 28: "United States Patent 8,449,632 - Sewage Material in Coal Liquefaction", a technology wherein renewable wastes, like sewage plant sludge, and renewable agricultural products, like vegetable oil, can be converted along with Coal into a synthetic crude oil that works just fine as a feed into a standard petroleum refinery. Coal is a vast resource, unlike shale gas; and, with stuff like sewage sludge and vegetable oil, it can be very nearly carbon-neutral and sustainable over the long haul.

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WVUGEO

Jun-06-13 9:32 AM

Troll: Coal mining and Coal use are established industries that have supported and fed whole generations of West Virginians, and, will support and feed generations to come. Shale gas is a transient phenomenon being operated by out of state companies with mostly migrant workers. When the drilling is done, they will all be gone - while Coal miners will still be buying OV cars amd groceries from local vendors, and paying taxes to local governments. The Coal they mine will keep the battery up on the computer you use to promote your narrow views in these posts.

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TrollSlayer

Jun-06-13 9:07 AM

mikeyd, your last post, totally agree.

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mikeyd

Jun-06-13 8:43 AM

we don't oppose drilling waste but oppose illegal dumping and/or polluting which the rest of us would be thrown in jail for.it's their trash and they should get rid of it responsibly.we should all be treated as equals here.asbestos never killed anyone in a day either.it took how many years?and we even knew what was in it.a lot of our parents died and we all learned something in the process.big companies just don't get the trust that they once had.coal companies,gas companies and whoever else dumps illegally,start throwing them in jail for their criminal activity.gas companies shouldn't be treated differently regardless.haliburton or no haliburton.

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TrollSlayer

Jun-06-13 8:09 AM

mikeyd, so you and WVUGEO oppose companies that produce drilling waste, but you’re fine with companies that produce mining waste. And you accuse me of having some connection with the drillers, but damage from mining is ok because you have more connection with the miners. My point exactly.

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mikeyd

Jun-06-13 7:45 AM

troll,you drag this gas drilling waste into every article now****paring it to everything else.who do you work for?at least those of us that actually live here can see what's going on.the coal miners live here.these gas companies have so many different names and that should tell you something.ducking accountability.plus they lie.we'll maintain the roads.just one.

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TrollSlayer

Jun-05-13 10:14 PM

So GEO, you’re worried about a company that will sequester traces of radium a MILE underground but you have no problem with sequestering heavy metals and toxic chemicals and RADIOACTIVE elements in structural elements of roads and bridges that SCHOOL CHILDREN will ride in school buses only FEET from. It’s clear where your bread is buttered. Coal company pension, or coal company stocks in your 401k?

And as you’ve said many times, NO amount of radiation is safe. So why is the unsafe radiation present in your coal ash ok for kids to ride bikes on?

And you don't drink coal ash? You don’t drink fracking fluid, either, but that doesn't stop your disinformation campaign from comparing it’s safety to drinking water.

What’s good for the goose, eh? LOL

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WVUGEO

Jun-05-13 8:14 PM

Troll: The issue of radioactivity in coal ash has been addressed many times previously. The content of radioactive elements in sedimentary strata, very generally speaking, increases with depth. Our Coal mines, very generally speaking, are at 15% the depth of our shale gas wells. And, the sedimentary environments which led to the different types of deposits also influenced the entrainment of different elements. Besides, you don't drink coal ash concrete. Any small amount of hazardous material would be immobilzed and encapsulated within it.

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TrollSlayer

Jun-05-13 5:08 PM

WVUGEO, coal ash contains toxic waste and RADIOACTIVE elements that will turn our children into hideous mutants. How, Sir, can you dare to propose, dare to defend the concept of, putting the future's children at risk?

Derrrr....

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WVUGEO

Jun-05-13 12:29 PM

Coal Ash can also serve as an ore of Aluminum and other metals. China is now using modern adaptations of technology originally developed by the US Government to refine Aluminum, and to extract other valuable metals, such as Gallium, from Coal Ash in at least one full-scale Aluminum production factory.

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WVUGEO

Jun-05-13 12:23 PM

Coal ash is a valuable raw material resource; it can be used for a lot, lot more purposes than indicated by this article. For instance, the old Dravo company, in Pittsburgh, developed the use of Coal ash as a raw material in the actual making of Portland-type Cement. Once cement is made, more Coal ash can be added to it as a fine aggregate, as a replacement for some of the sand, in order to make Concrete. US Government-sponsored studies have shown that such Coal ash concrete can be stronger, and has more resistance to chemical attack, than conventional Portland Cement Concrete.

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