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Brine Dumping Investigated

ODNR says water poured into private pond

June 6, 2013
 
 
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daWraith

Jun-06-13 6:23 AM

So many woods, so few inspectors . . . .

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Hefner

Jun-06-13 8:27 AM

The company representative should work at the White House. He sounds like Jay Carney.

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WVUGEO

Jun-06-13 9:21 AM

You know, it's just a shame that so much ink has to be wasted on the trials and tribulations of a transient, low-energy-density resource like shale gas, when West Virginia University was just awarded. on May 28: "United States Patent 8,449,632 - Sewage Material in Coal Liquefaction", a technology wherein renewable wastes, like sewage plant sludge, and renewable agricultural products, like vegetable oil, can be converted along with Coal into a synthetic crude oil that woks just fine as a feed into a standard petroleum refinery. Coal is a vast resource, unlike shale gas; and, with stuff like sewage sludge and vegetable oil, it can be very nearly carbon-neutral and sustainable over the long haul.

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TrollSlayer

Jun-06-13 9:33 AM

GEO, that’s a great idea. We should truck SEWAGE and COAL into Warwood. Convert that old industrial-zoned gasoline transfer site into a sewage and coal to gasoline facility, and then truck or barge out the gasoline AND any waste material from that very clean process out to the landfill. Any effluent can just go into the river. No potential for environmental damage there. And it will be so clean and quiet and fragrant and nice... WAAAAAY cleaner than natural gas... mmm mmm mmm

Wonder why coal boosters like GEO are so opposed to disposing of gas industry waste a mile underground where it came from, but see sewage and coal to gasoline as the clean, green solution to our energy needs. Derrrr...

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TrollSlayer

Jun-06-13 9:52 AM

And GEO, keep telling those ignorant gas companies that there really isn’t that much gas down there. Because if you can convince those dunces of that it will save them the BILLIONS they’re spending on extracting TRILLIONS of cubic feet of it. Derrrr...

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daWraith

Jun-06-13 10:52 AM

I think NeoGeo is renewable waste!

I guess stooges can't figure out that OIL is spending millions to badmouth coal and gas fracking, gas is spending millions badmouthing coal and oil, coal is spending millions . . . . . .

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pateba

Jun-06-13 11:39 AM

Get used to it folks! Where else can they dump this crap...oh I for got, we are going to recycle it in Warwood right next to the river so we can all enjoy the potential for radiation exposure and the death of our planet...Shame on these companies...they need to do their homework and find a better solution!!! We must STOP them and demand a better plan!!!

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TrollSlayer

Jun-06-13 11:43 AM

"the death of our planet"

Somebody's been watching too many Will Smith movies. LOL

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mikeyd

Jun-06-13 12:43 PM

pate,all they gotta do is build this plant south of wheeling in a less populated area.and nobody would care.

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TrollSlayer

Jun-06-13 1:19 PM

Nobody? And less populated like Glen Dale-Moundsville? Parkersburg? Huntington?

I think that’s what the protestors in Weirton said, too. That’s why they picked Warwood.

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mikeyd

Jun-06-13 3:56 PM

below moundsville would be good.

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mikeyd

Jun-06-13 4:24 PM

south beech bottom might work also if the next water supply is in wheeling.i would think that in that amount of distance if they did happen to have a spill at least it could be somewhat dilluted by the time it gets to the next water intake.they already have property there at the flats.i'm not trying to run anybody out of anywhere but just trying to help someone out with an answer.i think you need some distance.

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Ragnar

Jun-06-13 6:59 PM

I saw two tanker trucks in the parking lot of the funeral home on the border of Hickmechen and Buttwood last week. They were backed up to what looked like a creek on the edge of the parking lot. They had hoses running into the creek from their trucks. Several of the men were standing in front of the trucks, staring at traffic.

I don't know what they were worried about. You could dump Chloride Sludge from a Dynatox Industries truck and Horsemeat wouldn't say a word, so long as Terry Silver delivered his greenbacks in a brown paper bag.

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UNCOMMONSENSE

Jun-06-13 7:13 PM

As any Texas well driller will tell you "JUST DON'T DRINK THE WATER!"

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Triton

Jun-06-13 7:57 PM

If the DEP would hold the energy companies accountable for the sub contractors who haul the brine, they might pay more attention to what they do, even the way they drive. For sure the drilling companies work to maintain good will but the subcontractors are gypsies in town for a short period of time to earn some money and never to return. If the energy contractors were fined, or their operations given suspensions they would not expect us to accept that "its the sub contractors, its not us". The company that dumped in the pond needs to be fined heavy enough to put them out of business and the driver's jailed as criminals. Until the people with the money are liable and lose money they are happy to just not pay attention to what their truck subcontractors are doing. Fine the drillers, or even forfeit their drillpads and sell them to other comapnies to pay for the clean up. Talk like that to them and they will follow the subcontractors around like shadows.

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mikeyd

Jun-07-13 7:30 AM

ragner,that's the same way they did here in wellsburg with them trucks.backed them right up to the river and rolled out their hoses and dumped their waste.city leaders here let it go on for months.

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mikeyd

Jun-07-13 7:47 AM

troll,when did they protest in weirton?i must have missed it.

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TrollSlayer

Jun-07-13 9:25 AM

It was an unconventional protest. Weirton just dumped their raw sewage in the river for 50 years. You probably just assumed it was frackers.

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mikeyd

Jun-07-13 10:14 AM

i would doubt that fracking fluid and household sewage would have much in common.apparently we all lived through the sewage for 50 years.fracking fluid nobody knows anything about.

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TrollSlayer

Jun-07-13 7:06 PM

You’re right, mikeyd. Sewage has MANY more nasty chemicals in it than fracking fluid. Bleaches and detergents and fertilizers and insecticides and herbicides and fungicides and antibiotics and unmetabolized pharmaceuticals and bacteria and viruses.... Fracking fluid is mostly water and salt.

You say you don’t know exactly what’s in fracking fluid? Well then tell me exactly what’s in all your sewage the city is dumping in the river. Surely you publish a complete list of all those chemicals you’re flushing down the drain so I know what you're putting in my drinking water.

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mikeyd

Jun-07-13 8:06 PM

we do know that whatever was in the sewage hasn't hurt us in the 50 years.

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TrollSlayer

Jun-08-13 9:22 AM

Today’s sewage ain’t like the old sewage. You have any new, more powerful pharmaceuticals in your medicine cabinet than you did even 10 years ago? How about those new, improved weed killers, stain fighters, teeth whiteners, antibacterial soaps and sanitizers, ... You’re not just drinking pure Dove soap anymore. But I wouldn’t worry about it. Because you know exactly what’s in Weirton’s sewage that you’re drinking, right? Just keep your attention on those companies who want to collect and a little recycle salt water. Because they might occasionally spill some...

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mikeyd

Jun-08-13 9:43 AM

so fracking fluid is just plain salt water?we have nothing to worry about then.

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TrollSlayer

Jun-08-13 10:39 AM

No, not just plain salt water, but by far mostly salt water, and certainly less toxic than raw sewage, and certainly more known than raw sewage. Do you disclose every chemical you flush down your drain? Does the city sewage treatment plant disclose every chemical it dumps in the river? But the anti-frackers are willing participants in that much larger public waste dumping operation.

It’s time to put a little perspective on the ridiculous level of hype the loons have associated with fracking. Cancer? Earthquakes? “The death of our planet”? Seriously? LOL

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WVUGEO

Jun-08-13 3:43 PM

daWraith, far below,is right to a certain extent, by the way. Chesapeake Nat Gas donated $26 Million to the Sierra Club for their "Beyond Coal" campaign.

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