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Obama Defends Data Collection

Existence of surveillance programs acknowledged

June 8, 2013

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama declared Friday that America is “going to have to make some choices” balancing privacy and security, launching a vigorous defense of formerly secret programs that......

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GETACLUE

Jun-11-13 10:26 AM

PRISM was born late in George W. Bush's administration, but its bloodline can be traced to the frenzied aftermath of 9/11.

It used to be that, when the federal government wanted to read a foreigner's Yahoo or Microsoft emails, it needed a judge's approval. After the attacks, Bush secretly authorized the National Security Agency to get to skip that oversight and read U.S.-based email accounts in real time.

When the New York Times revealed the existence of that program, the Bush administration appealed to Congress, saying court approval was too arduous.

There were too many emails to monitor. Getting warrants for each one took too long.

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daWraith

Jun-10-13 5:07 PM

Does being the Village Idiot of Wheeling pay well, oldman?

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daWraith

Jun-10-13 5:06 PM

The Patriot Act that Bush signed expired on May 24, 2011.

Anything that exists today belongs to Owe$bama.

OWN IT, FOOL!

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oldmansvan

Jun-10-13 4:27 PM

Do Do, your bigotry is showing.

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oldmansvan

Jun-10-13 9:58 AM

Buuuush signed this into law. It's his. Bush, Cheney, the most corrupt adm. in history. No contest!!!

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daWraith

Jun-09-13 8:11 PM

No, the half-wit half-white guy!

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1whoworks

Jun-09-13 7:46 PM

As long as the "black guy" makes stupid decisions, accepts responsibility for nothing, promotes people who put his interests ahead of the national interest (Rice). Yea. I will blame the idiot and all of the fools that support him.

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GETACLUE

Jun-09-13 7:17 PM

Just keep on blaming the BLACK GUY

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daWraith

Jun-09-13 6:59 PM

Triton has a point, Bush did NOT propose this, his advisers created it, the Congress VOTED on it, and Bush Signed it.

The original Patriot Act passed the HOUSE 357-66 and the Senate by 98-1!!!

Only Senator Russ Feingold voted against it!!!!!!

THEN and ONLY THEN did Bush sign it.

At the time, virtually EVERYBODY supported it to prevent another 9-11.

Today, 12 years in operation, we KNOW a LOT MORE about it's abuses.

BUT NOBAMA agreed to it again, it was PASSED by CONGRESS, although a LOT MORE opposition, and was SIGNED by Owe$bama.

FOOL me ONCE, SHAME on YOU.

FOOL me TWICE, SHAME on ME!!!

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walksabout

Jun-09-13 3:45 PM

it don't matter how you dress or where you go. when you try to dress me and drag me along your route, it begins to matter. a waste is a terrible thing to mind.

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walksabout

Jun-09-13 3:43 PM

agree and be called liberal, disagree and you are un american hater. you can't win. only shift your points back and forth depending on what they elected most recently. those who are excused from the fight are usually the loudest tension stirrers.

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Triton

Jun-09-13 3:39 PM

Well the comments range from pretty scholarly to the usual outright personal insults to people who disagree with someone. That freedom of speech thing only counts if you agree, otherwhise you must be crushed, and his followers will shout you down. Thats pretty typical for a major story on this site. Perhaps the worst defense of this, ever, is the one were someone decides the only defense is that Bush did it. The Patriot Act was created after 9/11 and the Dems were in total contol of the Congress and wanted it and passed it. It probably was a good idea and may still be but it has been altered greatly by a President who is not much for America as it is, he would like to be more like Europe or Asia. And so he authorized the IRS to target the morons in the Tea Party showing how crazy he can be. And drones, and the bugging of reporters to find out who is talking to them about HIM! Obama may be the most inappropriate Chief..ever. We glimpsed his ugliness and its unforgivable. What now?

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daWraith

Jun-09-13 12:52 PM

July 16, 2012

From the beginning of the nation, Americans have recognized a necessary tension between giving power to government and maintaining individual freedom. The Federalist Papers, written to advocate ratification of the Constitution, noted that when creating a government “the people must cede to it some of their natural rights in order to vest it with requisite powers.”

Today, however, 66% of Likely U.S. Voters believe that there is too much government power and too little individual freedom. A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that just eight percent (8%) believe the opposite to be true. Twenty-two percent (22%) think the balance is about right

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daWraith

Jun-09-13 12:50 PM

June 09, 2013

Most voters oppose the U.S. government’s secret collection of the phone records of millions of Americans and think the feds are spying too much on U.S. citizens these days.

Just 26% of Likely U.S. Voters favor the government’s secret collecting of these phone records for national security purposes regardless of whether there is any suspicion of wrongdoing.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 59% are opposed to the practice. Fifteen percent (15%) are undecided.

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WVEXPAT

Jun-09-13 10:24 AM

@Oldman,

Where were you critics when Obama put this program in motion ?

" From Politifact, "On May 26, 2011, President Barack Obama signed a bill that reauthorized key elements of the Patriot Act. The bill called for a four-year renewal of some of the most controversial provisions of the surveillance legislation. While the bulk of the Patriot Act is steadfast law, there are certain measures that Congress must periodically reauthorize or else they expire. Among them is roving wiretaps, i.e., the ability of law enforcement officials to track targets if they change phones without law enforcement first consulting a judge." "President Obama has spoken in the past in favor of more oversight and Attorney General Eric Holder supported the USA PATRIOT Act Sunset Extension Act of 2009. Nonetheless, the president signed a reauthorization that included no additional oversight."

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daWraith

Jun-09-13 9:11 AM

Where were you sycophants when President Potatohead renewed it May 24, 2011?

The EPA sounded like a good idea in 1971 when Nixon created it.

NOW it is f***ing monster that needs to be destroyed.

But this gives Opie a huge database to blackmail all of his White House Enemies List!

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oldmansvan

Jun-09-13 8:46 AM

Where were you critics when Bush put this program in motion ?

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daWraith

Jun-09-13 6:00 AM

Incredible!

We have a real Constitutional Crisis here in that a COURT has already RULED this is unconstitutional, but the NSA SPY agency is so POWERFUL, they not only IGNORE the court order, they suppress it so WE the PEOPLE never even HEAR about it!!!

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daWraith

Jun-09-13 5:59 AM

But in July 2012, Wyden was able to get the Office of the Director of National Intelligence to declassify two statements that he wanted to issue publicly. They were:

* On at least one occasion the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court held that some collection carried out pursuant to the Section 702 minimization procedures used by the government was unreasonable under the Fourth Amendment.

* I believe that the government's implementation of Section 702 of FISA [the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act] has sometimes circumvented the spirit of the law, and on at least one occasion the FISA Court has reached this same conclusion.

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daWraith

Jun-09-13 5:57 AM

In the midst of revelations that the government has conducted extensive top-secret surveillance operations to collect domestic phone records and internet communications, the Justice Department was due to file a court motion Friday in its effort to keep secret an 86-page court opinion that determined that the government had violated the spirit of federal surveillance laws and engaged in unconstitutional spying.

This important case—all the more relevant in the wake of this week's disclosures—was triggered after Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), a member of the Senate intelligence committee, started crying foul in 2011 about US government snooping. As a member of the intelligence committee, he had learned about domestic surveillance activity affecting American citizens that he believed was improper.

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Thebudman

Jun-08-13 10:46 PM

By KATIE GLUECK | 6/7/13 8:13 AM EDT The journalist who broke the news that the government is monitoring vast quantities of American phone records is claiming the U.S. is building a “massive” snooping apparatus committed to destroying privacy worldwide.

“There is a massive apparatus within the United States government that with complete secrecy has been building this enormous structure that has only one goal, and that is to destroy privacy and anonymity, not just in the United States but around the world,” charged Glenn Greenwald, a reporter for the British newspaper “The Guardian,” speaking on CNN. “That is not hyperbole. That is their objective.”

Read more: ***********politico****/story/2013/06/glenn-greenwald-us-privacy-92400.html#ixzz2VgQoKM7e

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mikeyd

Jun-08-13 10:35 PM

wait til he raids the doctors offices for records.

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Thebudman

Jun-08-13 9:52 PM

wonderwhybm will not be pleased.

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Thebudman

Jun-08-13 8:57 PM

China has been quietly taking steps to encircle the United States by arming western hemisphere states, seeking closer military, economic, and diplomatic ties to U.S. neighbors, and sailing warships into U.S. maritime zones.

Meanwhile, back in the States, our government is focused on spying on its citizens!

Read more: ***********washingtontimes****/news/2013/jun/7/china-encircles-us-arming-western-hemisphere-state/#ixzz2VfzFAMcL Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

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Thebudman

Jun-08-13 8:51 PM

AFP - WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange said Friday that the US justice system was suffering from a "calamitous collapse in the rule of law", as Washington reeled from the sensational exposure of vast spy agency surveillance programmes.

Greatest attack on America in American history.

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