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Obama Defends Data Collection

Existence of surveillance programs acknowledged

June 8, 2013

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama declared Friday that America is “going to have to make some choices” balancing privacy and security, launching a vigorous defense of formerly secret programs that......

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daWraith

Jun-08-13 7:44 AM

Sens. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) and Mark Udall (D-Colo.), who had classified knowledge of the program as members of the Senate Intelligence Committee, were unable to speak of it when they warned in a Dec. 27, 2012, floor debate that the FISA Amendments Act had what both of them called a “back-door search loophole” for the content of innocent Americans who were swept up in a search for someone else.

“As it is written, there is nothing to prohibit the intelligence community from searching through a pile of communications, which may have been incidentally or accidentally been collected without a warrant, to deliberately search for the phone calls or e-mails of specific Americans,” Udall said.

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dyingov

Jun-08-13 8:27 AM

If the goal is to detect international "terrorists" communicating with peeps in the US....Why are they recording the phone calls originating in the US to other US peeps?

"Good intelligence" is not treating all of Verizon's customer's as potential suspects. This clearly shows the government has no clue whom they are looking for and is not in control of the situation. That fact that these Senators believe the routine collection of data and suspicion of all Americans is ok shows how un-American they are.

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mikeyd

Jun-08-13 8:58 AM

so obama thinks that everybody except for him is a terrorist?don't they have some kind of medication to fix this?

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Thebudman

Jun-08-13 10:29 AM

What other FREE country on the planet does this to their citizens?

Just how many threats were stopped using this massive collection of private citizens data and invasion of their privacy?

obama defends this, but can you trust anything he does is in the best interests of our wonderful country or its citizens.

THIS is the greatest attack on American soil. If the uninformed don't wake up it will be over. They systematically tearing our country apart.

Wake up!

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wonderwhy

Jun-08-13 11:05 AM

no budboy, Sept 11th was the greatest attack on American Soil. Poor try comparing them, along with your obvious disrepect for the ones that lost their lives, the first reponders, and the American Public. Shame on you.

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Thebudman

Jun-08-13 11:21 AM

wonderwhy, you are so childish. Always trying to distract from the main point.

Fact is, THIS is the greatest attack on American soil and it continues today, you too childlike to see it yet.

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Thebudman

Jun-08-13 11:55 AM

Doesn't seem to be a problem for some on this thread.

Some are so childish, I have doubts if he/she/it is even an American citizen. Probably posting from a hut in Kenya.

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dyingov

Jun-08-13 1:20 PM

wwu, "Where I am and where I'm going is no concern of you or to anyone else."

The goberment (who is the goberment?) knows....That is the point of the argument against goberment intrusion!

I know peeps that work for the goberment, they look just like the citizens they SERVE!!!

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CherokeeProud

Jun-08-13 2:05 PM

@WWUnotThinking. If you do not mind the goberment gathering info on you, you are a complete out of control moron.This is a free nation and we the Americans have "OUR" rights which you do not believe we do. Why don't you just call Obozo and ask him for a cabinet job, you would fit right in with that lunatic. You probably support him killing Americans with drones and his useless slaughter of babies. Did you support his cabinet member on not giving a young girl a lung transplant. In my personal opinion, "I have no use for you and not defending and taking up for Americans." If you think it it just to capture terrorist you are completely wrong. Obozo is taking all our rights away, take off your blinders and look at the complete picture of what he is doing.

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Thebudman

Jun-08-13 2:56 PM

Now that's racist! lol

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daWraith

Jun-08-13 2:59 PM

UStinking, "Use Any and All means possible to find, convict, imprison and execute terrorist,traitors and enablers to our country. You have my full support."

OK, I hereby arrest Barack H Obama of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. for Treason and High Crimes against the Citizens of the United States Of America.

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wonderwhy

Jun-08-13 3:10 PM

budman- you typically post comments about bm's or throwing them and you call me childish? wonderwhy?

You think this is worst than 911? I would wager you are in a very small percentage, typical of all your posts. Now go talk about your bm's or someone elses. THAT is childish.

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Thebudman

Jun-08-13 3:33 PM

Not only are you a racist, your a bully.

I bet you spend a lot time checking out packages. Shame on you!

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daWraith

Jun-08-13 3:36 PM

Even the ACLU is shocked” by the Obama administration’s secret grab of phone records of millions of Americans, says talk-radio host Michael Savage.

He noted on his nationally syndicated show Friday night that while Obama has characterized the government’s access to the data as a “modest encroachment” on privacy, an ACLU senior policy analyst called it a “gross privacy invasion.”

Recalling the warnings in his “Beware the Government-Media Complex” speech to the Commonwealth Club of California in 2000, Savage told his listeners the NSA’s snooping is “the biggest scandal of your entire life.”

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daWraith

Jun-08-13 3:37 PM

"“The ‘who,’ ‘when’ and ‘how frequently’ of communications are often more revealing than what is said or written,’ he argued. “Calls between a reporter and a government whistleblower, for example, may reveal a relationship that can be incriminating all on its own.”

The ACLU analyst said “repeated calls to Alcoholics Anonymous, hotlines for gay teens, abortion clinics or a gambling bookie may tell you all you need to know about a person’s problems.”

“If a politician were revealed to have repeatedly called a phone sex hotline after 2:00 a.m., no one would need to know what was said on the call before drawing conclusions,” said Wizner. “In addition sophisticated data-mining technologies have compounded the privacy implications by allowing the government to analyze terabytes of metadata and reveal far more details about a person’s life than ever before.”

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Thebudman

Jun-08-13 3:38 PM

Oh wonderwhy, I Gettysburg was far more costly in human liveslives than 9/11. But not being from this country, you wouldn't have taken American history.

Just curious, you own more than two cats don't you?

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daWraith

Jun-08-13 3:40 PM

Wonderliar "daWraith quotes Michael Savage"

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daWraith quotes Rush

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DaWraith quotes FOXNEWS

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(See how much TIME I am saving you wondrouslies, why I can PREDICT your ad hominem attacks before you make them. Prescient!"

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daWraith

Jun-08-13 3:42 PM

Of course, if we expect 1DUHY to make any original coherent observations that are worth printing . . . .

. . . . . {crickets} . . . . . . .

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daWraith

Jun-08-13 3:45 PM

In response, the ACLU issued a press release Thursday calling on Congress to investigate.

“The secrecy surrounding the government’s extraordinary surveillance powers has stymied our system of checks and balances,” said Laura Murphy, director of the ACLU’s Washington Legislative Office. Murphy said there’s “a time and a place for government secrecy, but true democracy demands that the governed be informed of the rules of play so as to hold elected officials to account.”

The Obama program appears to be based on the FISA Amendments Act, which authorizes surveillance of communications if one party is believed to be outside the U.S. ACLU Deputy Legal Director Jameel Jaffer, who argued the case before the Supreme Court, said the new revelations “make clear that the NSA – part of the military – now has direct access to every corner of Americans’ digital lives.”

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daWraith

Jun-08-13 3:53 PM

What scandal will break THIS week to cover up Verizon-gate?

So many Scandals, so little time.

And VERIZON-GATE completely swamped out the PATHETIC jobs news, unemployment rate went UP to 7.6%.

BBBWAHAHAHAAHAH!

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Thebudman

Jun-08-13 4:16 PM

@wwu, don't confuse me with wonderliar. He'll be along in a little while, after his bm, and I'm sure he will take you up on your invitation.

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Thebudman

Jun-08-13 7:35 PM

Broccoli is good for your colon. Wonderwhybm will be pleased tp hear that.

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Thebudman

Jun-08-13 8:46 PM

Jay Leno continued his humorous attacks on the White House Friday.

In the middle of a lengthy set of opening monologue jokes about the various scandals plaguing Barack Obama, the NBC Tonight Show host said, “We wanted a president that listens to all Americans - now we have one”

Read more: *******newsbusters****/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/06/08/leno-we-wanted-president-listens-all-americans-now-we-have-one#ixzz2Vfwg0QQZ

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Thebudman

Jun-08-13 8:51 PM

AFP - WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange said Friday that the US justice system was suffering from a "calamitous collapse in the rule of law", as Washington reeled from the sensational exposure of vast spy agency surveillance programmes.

Greatest attack on America in American history.

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Thebudman

Jun-08-13 8:57 PM

China has been quietly taking steps to encircle the United States by arming western hemisphere states, seeking closer military, economic, and diplomatic ties to U.S. neighbors, and sailing warships into U.S. maritime zones.

Meanwhile, back in the States, our government is focused on spying on its citizens!

Read more: ***********washingtontimes****/news/2013/jun/7/china-encircles-us-arming-western-hemisphere-state/#ixzz2VfzFAMcL Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

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