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An Empire of Secrets

Covert spying turns cheers of hope into catcalls against ‘big brother’

June 17, 2013

WASHINGTON — It’s as if the United States has two governments, one open and one very much not. President Barack Obama leads both, trying not to butt heads with himself....

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Beaverhausen

Jun-17-13 2:46 AM

O'"Baa"ma is the worst thing that has ever happened to the United States. Every day we seem to find out something new that confirms his intention of destroying our liberties to the end of creating a dictatorship. We only have left the dangerous illusion of a democracy. And if you aren't concerned or frightened, then you are in the dark about the course of ruin he has planned for us. There is something very, very dark about his soul. Call it pure evil, because not a single thing of importance he has done while in office has been for the promotion of our nation's well-being. At least other countries with a despot in office have sometimes had the balls to remove by force the person who seeks to oppress, abuse and decimate its population.

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Gooseman

Jun-17-13 5:24 AM

Looks like duhhhRAT has a new account called Beaver. Hopefully he is so frightened he hides in his closet all day.

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Blackrock

Jun-17-13 6:02 AM

Obama is the picture of the hypocrisy of liberalism. Those who purport to be for the people in reality suppress and enslave the people with liberal pOlicies. Those who say they are for all people kill those in the womb. They are the servants of evil.

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zip064

Jun-17-13 6:06 AM

What can anyone expect out of a Communist Regime? Of course, we have to assume Americans of the past 30 years learned anything of historical value in Self Esteem Class.

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daWraith

Jun-17-13 6:20 AM

Greaseman you really should get that case of paranoia treated. While all you can ever do is make ad hominem attacks on posters, the rest of make POINTS that you cannot answer without admitting the FACTS:

Opie spent more money in one term than any person in the History of the World.

Highest number of people on food stamps in hisotry.

Chronc 8% unemployment in spite of a $1 TRILLION stimulus

55% of the wealth of middle class Americans WIPED OUT on Opie watch.

Fewest percentage of American working since Carter

Most paranoid underhand scandal plagued tyranny in the history of this country.

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Wvcoffee

Jun-17-13 6:55 AM

Shame on the NR Editor again. Another headline pushing their political agenda. You lost the election. Get over it. "Cheney said this would happen. The (Bush/Cheney) empire of secrets lives on."

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wvhoopie

Jun-17-13 7:14 AM

If things are so bad, why won't the Congress repeal the Patriot Act? They won't. Congress is advised weekly as to what is being looked at, yet not one in Congress will start a bill to repeal the Patriot Act. This is one of those Faux Noise moment. Raise cain but do nothing. Point fingers but refuse to fix the law. I say repeal the Patriot Act in its entirety and let's end this. Bet they don't do a thing b/c they all agree with it.....

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TrollSlayer

Jun-17-13 7:26 AM

hoopie, your messiah Barry W. Obama RENEWED the Patriot Act. All Obama needed to do to keep his promise to eliminate that Act would have been to tell his minions to not use the autopen. So you don’t like the Patriot Act? You know EXACTLY who to blame that it’s STILL the law of the land.

I can understand how disappointed you are that after TWO Obush terms you’re STILL “hoping” for the “change.” LOL

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daWraith

Jun-17-13 7:27 AM

Poopie, in 2009 and 2010 the Democratic Party CONTROLLED the House, the Senate, and the White House.

100% control.

Why did they NOT repeal the Patriot Act?

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Triton

Jun-17-13 8:11 AM

To be a follower of Obama, at least a cultlike follower, you have to completley suspend reality and not think. Just embrace his slogans and pretend they are true and you will be warm and fuzzy all the time. One of Obama's first acts in office was to make the visitor's book SECRET. No other President did not, not even the dreaded W Bush. Obama did after he was asked why are all of these corporate lobbyists showing up at the WH. The beginning of the secret government, one we see and one we don't that impacts us directly. How did Obama end up with 18 times more corporate money than did Romney? Quick, don't think. We are waging wars and toppling govs that do not threaten us at a feverish rate and installing Islamic regimes who proudly say they hates us anyhow, we are infidels. We do war and Constituton busting on a daily basis but when times get tough Obama's handlers just tell us to chant BUUUUSSSH and the horror that is the Obama administration will just fade away. Take a nap.

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Beaverhausen

Jun-17-13 8:24 AM

Gooseman, this is not daWraith, you dumbazz. Consider the possibility that through your comments a multitude of people can tell that you have not yet removed your head from your rectum this morning. Go have some coffee.

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oldmansvan

Jun-17-13 8:36 AM

Beaver, it's amazing anyone canbe as misinformed as you. Faux Nooz strikes again.

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oldmansvan

Jun-17-13 8:39 AM

Troll, your man Boner and the repug congress renewed Bushs patriot act. Can't you post anything without lying?

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anutterview

Jun-17-13 8:59 AM

Oldman: "Troll, your man Boner and the repug congress renewed Bushs patriot act. Can't you post anything without lying? "

Where were you the day they talked about how a bill becomes law in 8th grade Civics? The President has to sign a bill before it becomes law, unless his veto is overridden by 2/3 majority in both houses of Congress. Obama has the opportunity to veto this bill, and did not have to worry about his veto being overturned in the Democratic controlled Senate.

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anutterview

Jun-17-13 9:03 AM

oldman; by the way, only on house of congress (the house of Representatives) has a Republican majority. The Senate has a slight Democratic majority, although not a 2/3 majority required to end a Filibuster or override a Presidential veto.

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anutterview

Jun-17-13 9:03 AM

Oldman; my last post should have begun " only 1 post....."

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mikeyd

Jun-17-13 9:20 AM

isn't cheney the one with the secret fracking fluid chemical combination?didn't he shoot his best friend while hunting?politicians will be politicians.not a good thing these days.

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TrollSlayer

Jun-17-13 10:37 AM

oldman “Troll, your man Boner and the repug congress renewed Bushs patriot act blah blah blah”

And who SIGNED the EXTENSION of that Act, oldman? That Act candidate Barry Oflipflopper called “plain wrong”? Well, I guess Obama himself didn’t sign it. His handlers signed it using the autopen. Barry Obumbler was too busy bumbling around Europe to be the leader here.

Man up, Democrits. Elections have consequences. One of them is RESPONSIBILITY. You're pathetic now, Dems. Harry Truman is spinning in his grave.

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TrollSlayer

Jun-17-13 10:58 AM

oldman “Troll, your man Boner and the repug congress renewed Bushs patriot act blah blah blah”

So oldman, you think Harry “The War is Lost” Reid and his Democrit-controlled Senate had NOTHING to do with renewing the Patriot Act? You believe Barry “This is legislation that puts our own Justice Department above the law” Oflipflopper had NOTHING to do with renewing the Patriot Act?

This is what happens when easily-conned Democrits who are CLUELESS about the legislative process are allowed to select Presidents and legislators. Pathetic, Dems. Take some responsibility for once.

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richardwhee

Jun-17-13 1:06 PM

This country has really degenerated to this. Now the idiots are getting us into another war to take our minds of of the corruptness. After destroying two countries we are now after a third. Thousands of our military plus aircraft in the area [For an exercise[ And the host gov wants us to leave them behind. Give me a break.

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dyingov

Jun-17-13 2:05 PM

"Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it."

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Hefner

Jun-17-13 2:17 PM

There are and must be secrets regarding national security, but there must not be secrets or spying regarding our national elections. There is no one in Washington who we can really trust, but Obama has taken the mistrust of our government, both nationally and internationally, to never before heights.

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daWraith

Jun-17-13 3:41 PM

Evil Empire 2013!

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BigMike

Jun-17-13 4:12 PM

In order to protect national security there must be secrecy. But, 'secret court's' are downright creepy. This genie must be put back in the bottle.

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daWraith

Jun-17-13 6:26 PM

Yes BigMike and the FISA court RULED AGAINST the NSA and they have suppressed the court decision!

So Barry the BULLSH**TTER is just talking out of both sides of his devious mouth when he claims there is Court Oversight!

FISA courts are conducted in Secret!

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