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Manchin: Plan Isn’t Feasible Or Reasonable

June 26, 2013

WHEELING — Sen. Jay Rockefeller believes the science behind global warming “is real” and that America needs to address climate change....

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WVUGEO

Jun-26-13 6:17 AM

We have the science in hand to turn the CO2 debate entirely on it's head. The US Navy has developed an entire suite of technologies that is capable of, first, collecting CO2 from the environment, and, then, in some cases using environmental energy to drive the processes, converting that CO2 into a full range of hydrocarbon fuels. Bayer Corporation is, right now, in Germany, collecting Coal-fired power plant CO2 and using it to synthesize plastics. Right now, in Washington, DC, an international conference hosted by Penn State University is taking place where scientists from around the world are presenting technologies for the productive, profitable use of CO2 as a raw material for fuels, chemicals and plastics. Why is none of that being reported to us?

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UNCOMMONSENSE

Jun-26-13 6:29 AM

The cold hard fact is this is ALL about stealing even more tax money and grabbing more power!!!

The United States now has virtually ZERO smoke stack industries left and those FEW that remain emit nothing but steam!!

We have in fact become the CLEANEST industrial nation on the planet!!

CHINA however continues to pollute and expand their smokestack industries at RECORD pace!!

And the pollution created by China is now over the United States!!!

With TRILLIONS to be made by pushing this agenda that will fill the pockets of senators with the bribes paid by those invested in China, these clowns are using the old tried and true methods of history's most successful communists!!

"A lie told often enough becomes the truth"

Vladamir Lenin

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whgfeeling

Jun-26-13 7:09 AM

if a few (no names..wrat) would hold their breath it would cut the co2 output in half. lets hope she gives it a try.

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WVUGEO

Jun-26-13 7:21 AM

Since UNCOMMONSENSE mentioned China, why have none of us been publicly informed of the fact that China's Shenhua, the largest Coal mining company in the world, now report themselves to be making "huge profits", their words, by converting Coal into gasoline and diesel fuel - using, in part, technology that was developed during collaboration with West Virginia University - who have their own technologies for converting Coal, and Carbon-recycling wastes, into liquid hydrocarbon fuels?

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daWraith

Jun-26-13 7:33 AM

Shat for brains like whgfeeling couldn't pass fifth grade science test, much less make an intelligent comment about climate science.

American education system is so dumbed down dumbasses like webefleeing would believe that dog excrement is really Tootsie Rolls if Obama sez.

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mikeyd

Jun-26-13 7:43 AM

climate change because of us is a joke.how did we live through the 60's and 70's when this country was really polluted?it's just a scam.obama needs the boot.

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WVUGEO

Jun-26-13 7:47 AM

The potentials for the productive, profitable utilization of CO2 are immense. As another "for instance", since we mentioned the conference they're hosting in DC in our post below: Just this May 14, Penn State University was awarded: "US Patent 8,440,438 - Electromethanogenic Reactor and Processes for Methane Production". It's a technology, that, using about as much voltage as you get from a flashlight battery, converts Carbon Dioxide into Methane, ie., substitute natural gas. Why aren't we being informed?

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WVUGEO

Jun-26-13 8:35 AM

Even further, Methanol, fuel alcohol, trade named "Vulcanol", synthesized from industrial exhaust gas CO2 is being blended into gasoline and sold in filling stations in several European nations by the company "Carbon Recycling International", who were also, last year, awarded: "United States Patent 8,198,338 - Process for Producing Liquid Fuel from Carbon Dioxide and Water", which is a technology that converts reclaimed CO2 into gasoline and diesel. Why aren't we being informed?

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acousticportal

Jun-26-13 8:43 AM

There are more coal miners as well as gas & oil workers employed today and for the past five years than perhaps ever before.

How can anyone deny cause and effect when it comes to greenhouse gasses and the toxins emitted by burning coal? Either complete ignorance or complete lying...

Rockefeller is right in his approach..the key is to build and implement alternative energy sources...starting in congress.

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WVUGEO

Jun-26-13 8:52 AM

Since we mentioned the fact, somewhere below, that Bayer Corporation is converting Coal power plant CO2 into plastics manufacturing raw materials at a Coal-fired power plant in Germany, we wanted to note that some reports have it that they're partnering there with Siemens, who are providing the CO2-capture tech, but, who also, as is revealed in: "United States Patent 7,989,507 - Production of Fuel ... Utilizing Waste Carbon Dioxide; 2011; Assignee: Siemens Aktiengesellschaft (AG), Munich, Germany", know how to convert Carbon Dioxide into gasoline. Again: Why aren't we being fully informed?

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WVUGEO

Jun-26-13 10:50 AM

Under Contract Number DE-AC02-05CH11231, your US Department of Energy, by the way, paid the University of California some of the tax money collected from you to develop a better catalyst to convert Carbon Dioxide into fuel alcohol at a lower energy cost. The project was quite successful, and US patents on the resultant technology have been applied for. Haven't been told about that, either, have you? Why?

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atoddh

Jun-26-13 10:51 AM

Both Manchin and Rockefeller have ignored proposals to develop manufacturing in the coal areas to replace mining job losses.

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atoddh

Jun-26-13 10:54 AM

Coal is a goner now. What has been done to replace the coal jobs.

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WVUGEO

Jun-26-13 11:27 AM

Princeton University, as well, along with a commercial spin-off company, "Liquid Light", in New Jersey, are establishing the basis of a commercial Carbon Dioxide recycling technology and business. For instance, late last year, Princeton was awarded: "US Patent 8,313,634 - Conversion of Carbon Dioxide to Organic Products; November 20, 2012; Inventors: Andrew Bocarsly and Emily Barton Cole; Assignee: Princeton University, NJ; Abstract: The invention relates to various embodiments of an environmentally beneficial method for reducing carbon dioxide. Government Interests: This invention was made with United States government support from National Science Foundation Grant No. CHE-0616475. The United States Government has certain rights in this invention. A method of converting carbon dioxide to provide at least ... ethanol." And, note, your tax money paid for that research, too, but you're not being told about it. Why?

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mikeyd

Jun-26-13 11:53 AM

coal won't be a goner until we run clear out.this president will be a goner in three years[coal will outlast him] and hopefully someone truthful and with some[any] common sense will get elected.just hang in there miners.us commoners aren't gonna let this place die yet.the next presidential election ought to be a zoo since a whole lot[young and old]have been influenced by this incompetent and untruthful administration.

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Triton

Jun-26-13 12:46 PM

but if Obama's goal is less dependence on dirty fossil fuels why is he not behind clean burning natural gas and totally clean, totally reliable hydro electricity. That Obama does not mention, ever, establishing totally clean generators on major rivers already locked and dammed is testimony to the amount of lobby money he has taken from fat cat business people who are selling green baloney to Americans. Hydro. 24/7, 365, no emissions at all and totally renewable. And yet Obama is just about crushing coal, not establishing anything else worthwhile. If you believe that Bush was owned by oil, then you have to admit that obama is bought and paid for for the several hundred million dollars filtered his way by solar and turbine manufacturers who know that its not a source that can light a city or run a factory. The environments worst enemy is the politically motivated American greenie. Hydro has powered the South east for 75 yrs with zero emissions.

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richardwhee

Jun-26-13 1:40 PM

Why do we have three branches of government? The EXEC Branch wants to make & enforce all laws. Trouble is - those who get everything for nothing colse their eyes to this.

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atoddh

Jun-26-13 3:20 PM

triton: he is pushing gas and hyro. gas is largely controlled by big oil. This was all about gas development: which will replace coal for the next couple of decades. Coal is gone both here and overseas now. It is 19th Century. Time to move on.

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atoddh

Jun-26-13 3:24 PM

WV and the NR are trying to cling to the past. This is why WV and Wheeling have declined. There is not one dollar available in WV for manufacturing (or other job creation) seed money starts. The trend is away from coal. Get used to it.

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nobama

Jun-26-13 5:52 PM

Wait wasn't Manchin in bed with Obummer a few weeks ago with the gun thing and now there's a war on coal....hang on old Joe will change sides again....he's a hoe now

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UNCOMMONSENSE

Jun-26-13 8:17 PM

The low IQ lemmings have no clue!!

Coal to gasoline is a JOKE!!

You simply CAN'T get more energy out of CONVERTING energy to another substance!!

It's simply impossible!

If you convert 1000 joules of coal energy to 500 joules of gasoline, how do thes brain dead idiots think this is a GAIN?????

Must be new math they taught these brainiacs!

Proof positive that tree huggers are merely mindless lemmings that are easily brainwashed!!!

USEFUL IDIOTS!!!

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UNCOMMONSENSE

Jun-26-13 8:39 PM

Big Lie of global warming/climate change Despite President Obama’s incessant claims that the Earth is heating, scientists in both Russia and China have been publishing data from scientific studies disputing the Big Lie of global warming/climate change.

The Chinese Academy of Sciences—50,000 members strong—recently published “Climate Change Reconsidered and Climate Change Reconsidered: 2011 Interim Report”, two hefty volumes with more than 1,200 pages of peer-reviewed data on climate change published by The Heartland Institute in 2009 and 2011

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UNCOMMONSENSE

Jun-26-13 8:41 PM

In The Wall Street Journal in May, Princeton University physicist Dr. William Happer and NASA moonwalker and geologist, Dr. Harrison H. Schmitt wrote that “Thanks to the single-minded demonization of this natural and essential atmospheric gas by advocates of government control of energy production, the conventional wisdom about carbon dioxide is that it is a dangerous pollutant. That’s simply not the case.”

Literally thousands of scientists around the world have disputed the IPCC “science” and many former “warmists” have reversed their former beliefs. Dr. Lennart Bengtsson, a top Swedish climate scientist, formerly affiliated with the IPCC, said in February “We are creating great anxiety without it being justified…there are no indications that the warming is so severe that we need to panic…

“The warming we have had the last 100 years is so small that, if we didn’t have meteorologists and climatologists to measure it, we wouldn’t have noticed it at all.”

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UNCOMMONSENSE

Jun-26-13 8:44 PM

In May, Marc Morano, publisher of ClimateDepot**** and a former member of the staff of the U.S. Senate Environmental & Public Works Committee submitted written testimony to the committee.

“The scientific reality is that on virtually every claim—from A-Z—the claims of the promoters of man-made climate fears are failing,” wrote Morano, “and in many instances the claims are moving in the opposite direction. The global warming movement is suffering the scientific death of a thousand cuts.”

“There is no evidence,” wrote Morano, “we are currently having any unusual weather.” Weather events such as the Moore, Oklahoma tornado and the sub-tropical storm Sandy that hit the northeast are normal occurrences despite the damage they inflicted.

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1whoworks

Jun-26-13 11:23 PM

Ole Rocky never was the sharpest tool in the shed. Now that he is a little senile his idealistic ivy league aides are writing his words for him. They spew the party line.

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