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Natural Gas a Good Choice for Vehicles

July 8, 2013

We’re sure motorists around the Upper Ohio Valley rejoiced last week when they learned that gasoline prices had hit their “summer slide.” Right....

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Wvcoffee

Jul-08-13 5:44 AM

Ok, so it's good for cars but not for replacing outdated coal power plants? Geeez that's stupid.

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Ragnar

Jul-08-13 6:31 AM

It's a good choice until it becomes commonly used, at which point demand will outstrip supply and the going rate will skyrocket.

My understanding is that natural gas, while cheaper, is not as dense as gasoline. So, if it gives you 10% less fuel economy and costs 10% less, what are you really saving?

I am not a chemist/geologist so maybe someone with a scientific background can jump in here.

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wvhoopie

Jul-08-13 8:27 AM

gas is $3.35 in Bethlehem. Natural gas for autos but not for producing electricity...to the biased mind, that makes sense

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mikeyd

Jul-08-13 9:41 AM

there is a reason that these trucks are burning diesel instead of gas.if there was a chance of saving a penny they would convert.

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TrollSlayer

Jul-08-13 10:44 AM

You can pump gasoline or diesel into your vehicle from a cheap, simple unpressurized tank through a common garden-style hose and valve into the cheap, simple, unpressurized tank in your vehicle, and then drive 400 miles. At that point you can find more gasoline or diesel within about 5 miles anywhere east of the Mississippi.

To fuel your vehicle with natural gas you need an expensive, high-pressure storage tank, an expensive, special high-pressure hose and special valve on it, an expensive special high-pressure valve and tank in your vehicle, and then you can drive about 200 miles before you need to find a station that will fill you up. There isn’t a CNG gas station within 20 miles of Wheeling, so going for a fill-up takes an hour and uses 10% of the gas you just bought.

That’s why CNG isn't a good choice for vehicles.

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mikeyd

Jul-08-13 10:44 AM

natural gas.

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WVUGEO

Jul-08-13 12:49 PM

WVCoffee: The whole concept is stupid. Ragnar: The sacrifice in travel distance, and thus the gross, false illusion of economy, is much, much more than 10%. At best, CNG will have only about two thirds the energy density of gasoline or diesel. Half the time you're driving, you'll be looking for a nat gas filling station. Further: The gas in your vehicle, when filling is complete, is at high pressure. You will be sailing along I-70, at 70mph or thereabouts, in a pressurized Hindenberg. Horrific disasters have occurred around the world in CNG-powered vehicles. Like converting Coal power plants to nat gas, it is a concept that would, rather sooner than later, cost a lot of people a lot of money, and, maybe for a few of them, in the case of CNG vehicles, their lives. And, has anyone thought about the capital costs of installing the needed infrastructure and modifying the existing vehicle fleet? What blind, delusional, industry-spawned propaganda. Rubbish.

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TrollSlayer

Jul-08-13 4:03 PM

From a 2010 Government study “After several decades of NGV operations, there has been only one fatality in the United States; it was caused by a breach in an NGV’s fuel system that resulted from noncompliance with safety standards”

w ww.transportation.anl.g ov/pdfs/AF/645.PDF

Now GEO, tell us about all those “Horrific disasters” caused by CNG vehicles? LOL

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