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House OKs Farm Bill

Measure avoids food stamp controversy to get narrow passage

July 12, 2013

WASHINGTON (AP) — Republicans pushed a scaled-down farm bill through the House on Thursday, putting off a fight over food stamp spending and giving GOP leaders a victory after a decisive defeat on......

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RockEReputation

Jul-12-13 7:47 AM

From the party of the corporate farmer (see Michelle Bachmann's $1/4 million federal farm handout) constantly blocking jobs bills and thus growing the rank of the working poor and the need for food stamps.

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TrollSlayer

Jul-12-13 8:46 AM

I agree with RockE on this one. We need a bill to immediately end taxpayer-funded subsidies to stinking rich farmers like Michele Bachman, thus increasing the cost of food produced in America, and thereby giving a price advantage to food produced overseas. I haven’t decided what call that bill, though. The Overseas Jobs Bill? Or the Higher Prices More Hunger More Food Stamps bill? I know RockE wanted to call it the Stick it to Bachmann bill, but you know how RockE's mind works... eye roll...

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dyingov

Jul-12-13 9:13 AM

Crop farming does not require very much time or intensive labor in the fields. Takes a total of a week to plow it, plant it, chemically treat it, harvest it and get it to market! Raising livestock is much more time and labor intensive!

And the majority of subsidies go to? Drum roll.....Crop growers!

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TrollSlayer

Jul-12-13 9:32 AM

dyingov, go to the store and compare the price per pound of beef and corn. Then come back and tell us which product requires more heavy lifting to make the same profit.

And ask a crop farmer about those vacations to Rio he takes between planting and harvesting time, since he has nothing do to between those times and all that excess money to spend on vacations. Then come back and tell us what he said, if you can get it past the censor... LOL

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dyingov

Jul-12-13 11:01 AM

troll, "go to the store and compare the price per pound of beef and corn. Then come back and tell us which product requires more heavy lifting to make the same profit."

Not so simple to calculate. Search the web and you can find profit calculators for beef, pork, corn and soy. Have at it!

Corn/bean farmers normally work other full-time jobs. Beef and pork producers don't have much time for the "other' full-time work.

Iowa State University land value survey:

in 2000 $1,800 per farm acre, in 2010 $8,200. I doubt that the farmers are paying 8x more per acre in 10 years because they don't make a profit....

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TrollSlayer

Jul-12-13 11:47 AM

dyingov, you don't think recent rises in mineral rights values and the Obamanomic quantitative easing-caused devaluation of the dollar have anything to do with the inflated prices of farmland? Right...

dyingov “Corn/bean farmers normally work other full-time jobs.” And your supposed “fact” that crop farmers have to take on second jobs somehow prove crops farming is more lucrative than animal farming? LOL

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RockEReputation

Jul-12-13 11:52 AM

NON-reality: "We need a bill to immediately end taxpayer-funded subsidies ..thus increasing the cost of food produced in America, and thereby giving a price advantage to food produced overseas"

REALITY: GOPeers are euphoric in envisioning the paring of the Farm Bill down to a welfare program for rich farmers (10% of farmers currently get 74% of the benefits).

Many of those are paid for growing nothing, are paid for knowingly growing crops on ground where crops won't produce, and $500 million in FARM Bill money annually is doled out to mere developers who own former farm land.

..now back to your regularly-scheduled non-reality drivel:

"ask a crop farmer about those vacations to Rio"

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TrollSlayer

Jul-12-13 12:02 PM

Wow, RockE. That’s a lot of words just to stick it to farmers like Bachmann. You could have done it in only four letters, like your Progressive spokesperson Bill Maher did. Starts with a c.

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TrollSlayer

Jul-12-13 12:07 PM

By the way, it’s gonna be hilarious when someday you Progressives finally realize that increasing welfare and food stamps allows people to pay more for food, which allows those stinking rich megafarmers to raise prices, which makes them even more stinking rich. Obamanomics has driven a record 48 MILLION Americans onto the food stamps dole. Cha-CHING!

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dyingov

Jul-12-13 12:17 PM

troll, I have spent 3+ years in the Midwestern states and talked to many farmers. The reason they work another full-time job, it fits in with the 51 weeks they are not crop farming!

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TrollSlayer

Jul-12-13 12:41 PM

dyingov, your crop farming friends must be raising Jack's beans if they can plow, till, plant, cultivate regularly, water regularly, spray occasionally, harvest, contract, package, transport, pay wages and benefits, and do all the Government paperwork necessary to run a crop farm in one week's work per year.

Heck, it takes most farmers a week just to plow...

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TrollSlayer

Jul-12-13 12:46 PM

I forgot purchase and maintain equipment, construct and maintain buildings and silos, fertilize,... They do those tasks during weeks 53, 54, and 55...

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DisplacedWVian

Jul-12-13 2:02 PM

It's not a "Farm Bill", it's a food stamp bill.

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DisplacedWVian

Jul-12-13 2:13 PM

I now see that the food stamp provision was stripped out of the most recent bill that ended up passing. Kudos to them. Giveaway programs should NEVER be hidden inside of bills with a different purpose. They should always be their own separate bill and voted on independent of anything else!

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walksabout

Jul-12-13 2:16 PM

it is hunger. follow the hunger. people are hungry for food, farmers are hungry for money, politicians are hungry for votes, etc.

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walksabout

Jul-12-13 2:17 PM

planting one's backside in a cooled air ride seat in a/c cab with power steering, boom box a few days a years doesn't warrant a bonus check from the working class tax payers.

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TrollSlayer

Jul-12-13 2:20 PM

Boom box? LOL Integrated quadraphonic stereo with satellite radio. What do we farmers look like, 70's ghetto thug rappers?

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walksabout

Jul-12-13 2:20 PM

I forgot maintain , construct and maintain buildings and silos, fertilize,... they hire illegals to do these tasks. oops, these are all write off tax breaks. oops.

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TrollSlayer

Jul-12-13 2:27 PM

"these are all write off tax breaks. oops." The silos or the illegals? oops...

We're not talking about tax breaks. We're talking about the difficulties and time constraints of crop farming. But if you Democrits want to bash farmers for employing millions to do their construction, maintenance, planting, harvesting, etc. all in an effort to put low cost food on your family's dinner table, well, you know what "Forste" says...

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dyingov

Jul-12-13 3:00 PM

troll, You are thinking about the farming operations from the 70's! You been around any of those 400k John Deere tractors that have mp3, ac and gps systems? BTW not many farmers are watering the crops...

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TrollSlayer

Jul-12-13 4:22 PM

dyingov, take a flight over anywhere in the US west of St. Clairsville and look down at all those quarter mile center pivot irrigation circles and then come back and tell us nobody’s irrigating anymore. LOL And those systems don’t install, operate, and maintain themselves. But I know your magic bean crop farmer pals could set one of those up in snap. And magic beans don’t need water. LOL

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anutterview

Jul-12-13 4:35 PM

Each time the redistribution of wealth gang (takers) decides that they can spend your money better than you, they create another giveaway program which will soon be exploited for profit by those smart enough to out-smart the takers.

Before you complain about people making money through government giveaways, consider why you are willing to vote for the takers who use your money to live high-on-the-hog and to buy your next vote.

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WVEXPAT

Jul-12-13 5:09 PM

If the Obama recovery has been so great then why has the number of Americans on food stamps CONTINUED to grow??? In 2012 there were 46,609 ,000 people receiving food stamps! Up from 44,709,000 in 2011, which was up from 40,302,000 in 2010, which was up from 33,490,000 in 2009, which was up from 28,223,000 in 2008 (USDA Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program Participation and Costs (Data as of July 5, 2013).

I can understand increases in 2009, but we had "Recovery Summer" in 2010 so why were 13 million added to food stamp rolls if the Obama economy is such a success???

Liberals?

Progressives?

Anyone?

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dyingov

Jul-12-13 11:51 PM

troll, You are seeing irrigation west of St. C? Not until Nebraska would you see a lot of irrigation. Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, and Missouri do not have very much irrigation going on. Nebraska does require irrigation. You been reading about the drought in the Midwest over the past few years?

Mother nature or bust in most farm operations....

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TrollSlayer

Jul-13-13 11:24 AM

Ok, a little farther west than St. Clairsville... LOL

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