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With Cameras Watching, Your Car Is No Longer Your Castle

More police scanning plates to add to database for tracking motorists’ actions

July 18, 2013

WASHINGTON (AP) — Chances are, your local or state police departments have photographs of your car in their files, noting where you were driving on a particular day, even if you never did anything......

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bloomin

Jul-19-13 7:18 PM

Wraith you better pay up. True story-WVU law student doing free work in Fairmont. A month later, her father who vehicle is registered to gets $5 ticket in mail with $25 late fee. He pays it a week later when he sits and writes out bills-Couple days later he gets letter to appear in court but the date has passed. He calls and they say there is $100 fine for missing court and he cant send a check or credit card, he must appear in person. He must take day off work to drive to Fairmont and in meantime, there is a warrant for his arrest. If he gets pulled over for any violation-they will take him into custody and bail will be $5000. The law student daughter wants to fight it as judge walked her to her car and knows there was no ticket. However, here dad will have a bounty on his head until resolved. Dad never been in any trouble and pays for her education. Rediculous. Stay out of Fairmont-Big Corruption. This is how they built great new courthouse.

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TerryHoitz

Jul-19-13 2:37 PM

Dyinggov. The case did result in the seizure of cocaine but it was because the officer was randomly running plates and the registration did not match the car. Anyone could take plates off one of their other cars and nobody would know unless someone checked. And as far as tracking people, have u ever been somewhere and said "I've seen that car before" the computer just tells the police when and where. Now I don't think the police should be able to put GPS on your car and monitor you individually. And definitely not search inside people's houses without a warrant.

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mikeyd

Jul-19-13 9:25 AM

go out and video the cops and see what happens.

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dyingov

Jul-19-13 9:18 AM

terryhoize, The case you reference resulted in a seizure of 2 kilo's of cocaine. The initial stop was because the registration was for a different car. Keeping a data base on peeps travels is not the same thing.

The "law" is not so cut-n-dry, follow the US Supreme Court and you will find many 5-4 decisions. Opinions are the rule, not the acception!

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Shark88

Jul-19-13 8:34 AM

License plates today...

Personal possessions and lives tomorrow...

If you think it can't happen, you're sorely deceived.

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Shark88

Jul-19-13 8:31 AM

The police state is a alive and real in America....very dangerous situation for a so-called 'free people' when you consider how evil, corrupt, & cold the government & nation has become.

The people of America could stop all this foolishness of big government corruption if they wanted......but they won't. They're too lazy, complacent & content with bad and corrupt leaders & a morbidly obese government.

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TerryHoitz

Jul-18-13 11:12 PM

United States v. Walraven. That is a case which states there is no expectation of privacy to vehicle registration and the police can randomly run checks against a computer data base. Again, I get more humor out of the comments than I do out of the comics section of the paper on Sunday but too many people state opinions as facts on here. If u have an opinion, state it as an opinion that's all. I have a relative that is a retired deputy so I like the police in my opinion

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daWraith

Jul-18-13 9:27 PM

George Orwell missed the date by about 30 years but he was CORRECT on his assessment.

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daWraith

Jul-18-13 9:25 PM

Terry,there is no "right" to privacy explicitly in the US Constitution.

But Griswold v. Connecticut, 381 U.S. 479 (1965), is a landmark case in which the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that the Constitution protected a right to privacy.

This "privacy" is normally interpreted as privacy from GOVERNMENT intrusion.

What is the PROBABLE CAUSE that allows police to random collect my license plate?

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Alphacentaur

Jul-18-13 8:37 PM

Nocommonsense

Has anyone been arrested in this area for recording police?

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TerryHoitz

Jul-18-13 6:20 PM

I don't see how everyone thinks this is so illegal. If a person or vehicle is in a public area, there is no reasonable expectation of privacy. You have every right to watch or video the police in public and they have every right to video or watch us. Obviously they cannot search the inside of your vehicle or house. I think most people on here just like to argue (which is why I read the comments to begin with) but at least have a valid point

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UNCOMMONSENSE

Jul-18-13 5:52 PM

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized

Amendment VI

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

PROOF POSITIVE THIS IS IN FACT ILLEGAL!!!!

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UNCOMMONSENSE

Jul-18-13 5:44 PM

Wheeling and Ohio county were the very FIRST to jump on the police spy cameras!!!

From the dozens of cameras at virtually every intersection to the police cars constantly violating the bill of rights, the NAZI police state is alive and well in Ohio county!!!

Just another reason to stay away from ohio county and boycott all businesses there!!!

Just like recording a private conversation is illegal WITHOUT the consent of all parties or a court order, video and still recording of this type fall in the same category

Cops routinely arrest innocent civilians for recording THEIR corrupt behavior so the people MUST retaliate with equal legal power!!!

My car is in fact an extension of my home(my castle) as far as the law is concerned

Spying on me in my home is illegal and so is this!!!

Hope Ohio county has enough money in their generl fund to withstand the MASSIVE class action suit that's just around the bend!!

If you are recorded, SUE!!!!

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popeye

Jul-18-13 3:19 PM

Don't blame me, I voted for Ron Paul. Told you so.

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dyingov

Jul-18-13 2:04 PM

wraith, Welcome to Iowa!

This dude got fired:

"Hedlund, 55, initiated an April 26 pursuit of an SUV that zipped past him doing "a hard 90" mph on Highway 20 in northern Iowa. He pursued the vehicle and asked dispatchers to send a trooper to make a stop. A trooper clocked the SUV at 84 mph and raced to catch up, but ultimately didn't stop the vehicle after seeing it was another trooper who was driving Branstad and Lt. Gov. Kim Reynolds."

Branstad's son killed 2 peeps some years (1991) ago, DUI (covered-up)!

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daWraith

Jul-18-13 12:02 PM

WhgFleeing what Senate voted 98-1 to APPROVE the Patriot Act??

What stupid President after 12 years of Patriot Act in operation SIGNED the RENEWAL of the Patriot Act?? uuuuuuh Barack Insane Obama?

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island1

Jul-18-13 11:55 AM

then why hide.

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whgfeeling

Jul-18-13 11:15 AM

"The President proposes to create a new Department of Homeland Security, the most significant transformation of the U.S. government in over half-century by largely transforming and realigning the current confusing patchwork of government activities into a single department whose primary mission is to protect our homeland. The creation of a Department of Homeland Security is one more key step in the President’s national strategy for homeland security."

-From the Department of Homeland Security June 2002 - George W. Bush

thanks George lol.

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whgfeeling

Jul-18-13 11:12 AM

remind me..what party passed the homeland security act? tell them thanks and keep supporting them lol.

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richardwhee

Jul-18-13 10:53 AM

SOLUTION-- Move to Siberia or Antarctica and tell the Free Country of the U.S. to stick it. Who is watching the residents in the white house?

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acousticportal

Jul-18-13 8:40 AM

We need a modern day Robin Hood...

"Law Enforcement" is no longer meant to Serve and Protect... it has become a capitalist venture and every citizen is a potential business prospect.

Homeland Security has set up a legal parasitic route to squeeze all Americans of their freedom, resources, and privacy. *****Bush!

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Beaverhausen

Jul-18-13 8:21 AM

Get a piece of green contact paper, cut it in the shape of a couple of leaves, then stick it over just a letter or number on your plate. Break out that hot glue gun and stick a brown twig above the "leaves" to complete the effect of having debris accidentally wedged in your vehicle's bumper. It's a good thing.

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daWraith

Jul-18-13 8:15 AM

I got a photo radar ticket from Des Moines, Iowa for 75 in 60 at 11:35PM last summer.

Now yes it was my car and my wife Ms. LeadFoot was driving.

So I sent them a picture of a my check for $65!

So far they have failed to see the humor. They keep sending me a violation notice with a crappy picture of my license plate in the dark.

I sent them a clear picture of my check again. I am think of sending them a picture of a%% with a "Kiss me here" Photoshopped on to it!

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TrollSlayer

Jul-18-13 7:51 AM

wvhoopie “Nothing gives you the feeling that you are being watched than to receive a ticket in the mail that includes a picture of your car going through a red light from a town 400 miles away two weeks earlier.”

Nothing more difficult than defending yourself in court over a ticket you received in the mail that includes a picture of your borrowed car being driven by your brother-in-law going through a red light in a town where he was on vacation 400 miles away two weeks earlier.

Because even if you go to the expense and trouble of making a court appearance, that ticket-funded judge is very short on “reasonable doubt.” See the bailiff.

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daWraith

Jul-18-13 7:41 AM

With two way wireless communication with vehicles, the police will have the ability to STOP you car under command.

Try to run away, the engine dies!

They are going to deploy these systems FIRST on tanker trucks that might be used as a WMD. Cops could just push a button, truck STOPS dead in its tracks (probably jack knives and causes a wreck too, but hey!)

Then your car next.

Date the former wife of a cop, he can "punk" your car when you are doing 70 mph on I-70 just for giggles!

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