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Murray Brings John Boehner to Wheeling for Fundraiser

July 21, 2013

WHEELING — House Speaker John Boehner was joined by Ohio’s Republican House members in Wheeling Saturday night to speak out against the “war on coal” and raise money for Republican campaign efforts......

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promo61

Jul-22-13 11:59 AM

This won't be the first time politicians have exploited the coal industry for their own gain. Apparently liberals are prepared to surrender that territory.

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TrollSlayer

Jul-22-13 8:42 AM

dying, the problem was I wasn’t specific enough. When I said, “solar hot water systems don’t generate electricity,” I should have said “currently available home-use solar hot water systems don’t generate electricity.” I can see why you would have thought I meant, “commercial-scale developmental solar hot water systems,” when I asked for help locating one to heat my morning shower. My fault.

And no, we’re not the same poster. One of us is a “warmer” and the other has a clue.

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dyingov

Jul-22-13 5:50 AM

thetruthforonce, Exactly how much have you paid in taxes in your lifetime? I like your idea of bankrupting the coal fired power plants, natural gas anyone!!!

troll, It's in development stage! So then we don't like that it is in commercial use! Then it would be no one in Wheeling is using it....

For the posters I'm guessing that thetruthforonce and troll are one in the same!

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wonderwhy

Jul-21-13 10:41 PM

Remember when Murray got national attention for the UT mine disaster? How about when he had fake dirt put on miners faces for a photo shoot. Both made national news. Wonderwhy no pic of Boehner for the record?

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BigMike

Jul-21-13 5:08 PM

truthforonce wrote: >The EPA's regulations on green house emissions is in our National interest and in the interest of the globe. Murray doesn't give a hoot about either. He's in it for greed and avarice. Nothing more. Boehner is in it for the votes so he can keep his beloved speakership. Nothing more. Wake up, folks. You're getting sold a bill of goods that are no good for you.<

High US energy prices are not in the nation's interest. It costs jobs and increases poverty, but I guess we are just being greedy, like Murray and Boehner.

<China's coal consumption has more than doubled. It now burns almost as much coal as the rest of the world combined.> So the death trains James Hanson talks about are not only coal trains from mines but freight trains from the west coast transporting Chinese goods to US retailers. Controlling CO2 is nothing more than a wealth transfer scheme from the many to the few.....

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TrollSlayer

Jul-21-13 2:22 PM

dyingov, from the Cogenra website "Cogenra is the leading developer of COMMERCIAL-SCALE solar cogeneration projects in North America."

So if I were looking for a COMMERCIAL-SCALE hybrid solar rig that might fit my needs. Anyone selling them for home use? Because, as you suggested, my "hot water usage is "normally" (not that I think you are normal) in the morning hours."

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BigMike

Jul-21-13 2:15 PM

From US Energy Information Administration:+ Short Term Energy Outlook: U.S. Electricity Generation

EIA expects total U.S. electricity generation will grow by 0.8 percent in 2013 and by 1.0 percent in 2014. Electric generators have been running their existing coal capacity at higher rates so far this year in response to the increasing cost of natural gas relative to coal. As a result, the share of total U.S. generation fueled by coal during the first four months of 2013 averaged 39.5 percent compared with 35.4 percent during the same period last year. In contrast, the share of generation fueled by natural gas fell from an average of 29.5 percent during January-April 2012 to 25.8 percent this year. EIA expects coal power plants to continue their increased level of generation, averaging 40.1 percent of total generation in both 2013 and 2014. The share of U.S. generation fueled by natural gas averages 27.6 percent in 2013 and 27.3 percent in 2014.

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atoddh

Jul-21-13 1:27 PM

macelllus: The methane- not the liquids- is to be exported in the form of LNG.

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thetruthforonce

Jul-21-13 1:19 PM

Sorry, Troll. I meant my comment to be toward deadgov.

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thetruthforonce

Jul-21-13 1:17 PM

Troll. I've paid more in taxes over my working career than you have made in your lifetime. You obviously don't know what you're talking about, but that shouldn't surprise anyone.

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dyingov

Jul-21-13 1:08 PM

troll, anything else I can help you with? Cogenra is the name of one company that sells the "developed" solar combination!

Get with the program....LOL

"Solar cogeneration optimizes the power of the sun by creating both electricity and hot water from a combined solar photovoltaic and thermal module. By combining proven photovoltaic and solar hot water systems, solar cogeneration offers the most cost-effective and environmentally friendly solar solution available."

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TrollSlayer

Jul-21-13 12:04 PM

Choker, fatcat, rich, white guys..., War on the Environment..., yaaaaaawwnnn... zzzzzzz.....

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TrollSlayer

Jul-21-13 12:02 PM

dyingov “I would be impressed if you just went and invested into solar hot water systems. The electric companies are even required to buy your "extra" unused power from your system,” and “A team of researchers from Boston College and MIT HAVE DEVELOPED a hybrid flat panel that is capable of producing electricity from the sun’s rays as well as hot water for thermal energy.”

dyingov, please tell me where I can buy that DEVELOPMENTAL system so I can “get with the program.” LOL

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dyingov

Jul-21-13 11:35 AM

troll, Get with the program....LOL

"A team of researchers from Boston College and MIT have developed a hybrid flat panel that is capable of producing electricity from the sun’s rays as well as hot water for thermal energy."

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TrollSlayer

Jul-21-13 9:57 AM

dyingov, solar hot water systems don’t generate electricity so there’s none to sell back. But they can might reduce your energy consumption enough to break even when it comes to the cost of the system and maintenance. Salesmen will tell you you’ll save a lot of money with them, but most people just don’t use enough hot water to make that true, especially when you add in the cost of maintenance and replacement. So then you have to ask yourself if they’re worth the trouble. Maybe they are, maybe they aren’t. If they were a significant savings you’d see more of them.

But you CAN sell back excess electricity you generate from solar cells and wind turbines. With so many liberal loons around here singing the praises of solar and wind, did you ever wonder why you almost never see anyone installing those systems here? Come on, loons. Since solar and wind are so much better than coal and gas, show us how it’s done. Put up those solar panels and windmills, and walk the talk, hypocrites.

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dyingov

Jul-21-13 9:34 AM

thetruthforonce/marcellus, I would be impressed if you just went and invested into solar hot water systems. The electric companies are even required to buy your "extra" unused power from your system. Don't forget the batteries to store the "solar" energy. We (tax payers) will even give you a 30% tax credit for the year you buy the system. Please consider your hot water usage is "normally" (not that I think you are normal) in the morning hours (sun does not shine very bright at night). That is of course for those of us that work day shift! For those of you that do not work and receive handouts (my guess is this is the group you two come from) we (tax payers) already pay for your water heating needs, why worry?

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wonderwhy

Jul-21-13 8:47 AM

nice suits.

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TrollSlayer

Jul-21-13 8:44 AM

Marcellus, “pees” in a pod? What are you, “stewpid”? LOL

Hey Marcellus, have your pulled your main breakers and gone clean and green yet, or are you still a hypocrite posting your drivel using that cheap Consol coal and Chesapeake gas-fired electricity? Walk the talk, loon. LOL

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Marcellus

Jul-21-13 8:36 AM

Maybe Trollslayer can hold Boehner's crying towel for him when he comes to town. They are 2-pees-in-a-pod! As long as corporations can move manufacturing out of the US to save on labor costs and save money on taxes, the coal issue remains a moot point in that regard. Now the gas industry is trying to con people into believing they can change all that, while their end game is exporting "our" resources so they can make higher profits. In the long term, that scenario will increase the cost of natural gas and gas liquids for industrial and residential consumers in the US, which is why so many large US corporations oppose the additional export licenses under consideration for gas liquids. Maybe Trollslayer can have a cry with Boehner while guiding him with his omnificence on how to break the gridlock in DC. Whaaa-whaaa-whaaa you two cry babies!!

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TrollSlayer

Jul-21-13 7:54 AM

"they're there." I don't want to appear "stewpid." LOL

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TrollSlayer

Jul-21-13 7:53 AM

And the rest of Barry OBankrupter’s War on Coal policy statement adds what? Barry Bankrupter very clearly stated his intention to bankrupt industries using coal powered plants. Thanks for reminding us by posting it again, Goosy. VOTERS once employed in the steel, auto, and aluminum industries who are now on the Obama Unemployment rolls need to be reminded of why their there as often as possible. Please post that again right before election day. LOL

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Gooseman

Jul-21-13 7:49 AM

TrillSlober selectively quotes the President.

Remember, it is better to remain silent and appear stewpid than to post on the NR, and remove all doubt.

Here is actually what the President said "So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted."

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TrollSlayer

Jul-21-13 7:09 AM

Obama’s War on Coal is a war on American industries that need cheap energy to compete in a world market. Steel, aluminmum, autos – ask anyone once employed in those once powerful American industries how ever more draconian Government restrictions on the use of coal have affected the survival of those industries.

Yes, read the posts below. The ridiculousness of thetruthforonce’s description of Chinese coal-fired pollution levels as applicable in any way to US coal fired pollution levels can be seen with your own eyes by visiting ANY local coal-fired power plant. The American coal industry will survive as long as the Chinese Communists support the free market more than American “Progressive” Democrits do. But American coal-powered industries will not.

In the words of Barry Bankrupter Obama: “So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it’s just that it will bankrupt them.” No clearer Obama War on Coal policy statement is needed.

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thetruthforonce

Jul-21-13 6:54 AM

I urge everyone to read the posts below (if you're reading newest to oldest). As I said Bloomberg isn't your most liberal or Democrat leaning publication. The so-called "War on Coal" is not a war against our state or an industry. The EPA's regulations on green house emissions is in our National interest and in the interest of the globe. Murray doesn't give a hoot about either. He's in it for greed and avarice. Nothing more. Boehner is in it for the votes so he can keep his beloved speakership. Nothing more. Wake up, folks. You're getting sold a bill of goods that are no good for you.

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TrollSlayer

Jul-21-13 6:51 AM

You think maybe the total lack of pollution control devices on Chinese coal-fired boilers has anything to do with the difference in pollution level observed there?

Derrrrrrrr......

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