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Community Fights to Save Ormet

Workers Rally to Sway PUCO Ruling

August 18, 2013

HANNIBAL — Martins Ferry resident Rich Spielvogel doesn’t know if Saturday’s rally will sway the Public Utilities Commission of Ohio’s decision to grant Ormet emergency relief, but ‘‘it can’t hur....

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LogHog

Aug-19-13 10:01 PM

" Electric rates shall necessarily skyrocket under my plan" BO

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BigMike

Aug-19-13 6:35 PM

WWUthinking; This is how it will work:PADUCAH, Kentucky — A western Kentucky electric utility is telling customers their rates will increase by more than 20 percent after its power supplier lost its biggest customer, an aluminum smelter.

Jackson Purchase Energy Corp. is telling ratepayers their electric bills will increase by an average of about $22 a month. The higher rates begin Tuesday. The utility's power supplier, Big Rivers Electric Corp, recently lost the Century Aluminum smelter in Hawesville as a customer. Big Rivers is requesting a $68.6 million rate increase to cover the losses.

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mikeyd

Aug-19-13 6:18 PM

so they should have seen this coming.and at the amount that they would have to give up,this place is doomed.

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BigMike

Aug-19-13 4:37 PM

milkeyed wrote: i always said that if you like the company that you work for you'll do something to save it.these workers make good money for around here.give up a little.

I tend to agree with you, but in this case to achieve the savings in wages to offset the the rate increase would require on average about $67,000 per employee, (based on 1000 employees). Few hourly employees earn that amount. Suffice it to say that labor costs are not a major consideration here.

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mikeyd

Aug-19-13 10:03 AM

i always said that if you like the company that you work for you'll do something to save it.these workers make good money for around here.give up a little.

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Triton

Aug-19-13 8:55 AM

American manufacturing cannot compete with other nation's ability to import products here at under market prices. Now we can do the rich guy rant all we want but in fact a business can only operate if it makes a profit. Workers milling about mumbling about the rich guys really sounds stupid, its the stockholders you know and that includes a lot of people, big and small who invest to make money. They don't invest money so that you can have a better pick up truck. Its business and we don't have a level playing field in the US, foreign business has the advantage. They sell cheaper and WE buy it. If you went to the parking lot you would find Toyota and Nissan pickups and products that were purchased by price first that used cheapr products from overseas. We do not protect our markets. And remember..Obama has been in office for 6 yrs and you probably helped put him there. Ormet paid well, enough to afford IRA and savings for later in life. its a mess with few clean hands.

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LogHog

Aug-19-13 6:45 AM

The reality of the worldwide economic problem still has not gotten into the brains of most Americans. With a limited demand for products comes lower prices to sell products. To keep operating, one must have lower operating costs. To lower costs means lower wages, lower energy, lower raw material costs. The Chinese know this. Some American companies have been able to get by with sponging off the Govt. or the average Joe for funds to keep going,(like Ormet's elec. bills being paid by all electric users. Why should little old ladies on fixed income have higher bills so Ormet's workers can make the big money?) but this will all come to an end at some point. For Ormet the point is near. At some point the financial Ponzi system that is funding all our Govt. pay outs will implode. when people can no longer get money and benefits from the Govt. we all will truly know what cheap labor means. Like the Chinese worker making $200/ month and glad to have it.

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shilohst77

Aug-19-13 12:29 AM

if you don't see that the cost of electricity going up and up and up is not the fault of OBAMA'S policies then you have no clue what is going on.....GET INFORMED....

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atoddh

Aug-18-13 9:39 PM

Ormet wants either the public or AEP or both to subsidize them. Ormet should, then, offer AEP or the public a share of their profits in return or equity in the operation. They are seeking an investment of sorts.

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1whoworks

Aug-18-13 9:06 PM

Economy stinks = low demand for aluminum. Low demand = low price. High labor costs and old facility = low production efficiencies. Use your heads people. If Ormet is AEPs biggest customer do you think they want them to go out of business?

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daWraith

Aug-18-13 8:58 PM

So there is no war on coal? Converting power plants to gas cost $$$$ and it gets PAID by utility companies' CUSTOMERS.

DUH!

Thanks Opie. NO HOPE NO CHANGE.

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F15Eagle

Aug-18-13 5:52 PM

free electric - for everyone..just mandate it & this will fix it..then go vote for more terrorists/BO types - again..

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joehendrix

Aug-18-13 4:56 PM

Good people work at Ormet -- these are our neighbors -- and they with extremely hard in ridiculous conditions. But it doesn't look good. Our esteemed leaders in Washington have all but eliminated manufacturing in this country, using the EPA as their main instrument to cripple what used to be the backbone of the Ohio Valley's economy. Keep voting then in, people, and hope for better results. The definition of insanity.

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dyingov

Aug-18-13 2:40 PM

"AEP could raise Ormet's bill to $62.83 per megawatt hour. In its 2009 power agreement, the cost was $39.66 per megawatt hour, which Dave McCall, United Steelworkers District 1 director, said is about the current market price."

The China per megawatt price, $3.35!

Chinese skilled factory workers make an average of $200 per month. In the US a skilled factory worker makes about $4,500 per month.

And the peeps can't figure it out!

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shilohst77

Aug-18-13 1:38 PM

another article in this newspaper about ORMET and still no mention of the real problem ORMET is facing...its not puco's fault and its not gov Kasich's fault,,,,the question should be WHY HAS THE COST OF ELECTRICITY SKYROCKETED???...****e on Intelligencer, do your job and at least investigate the true problem here..again, why has the cost of electricity skyrocketed?...GO ask AEP, I'M sure they will tell you...then ask Kammer why they are being forced to close.then ask why the power plant across from Moundsville was forced to close..the problem is our wonderful all caring govt..our govt strangles all businesses with senseless regulations which increases costs and then ups the price and then the damage trickles down.OBAMA'S self-imposed, without any discussion or votes in the house or senate, mandates and executive orders have caused this problem.point blank, that is Ormets problem...ITS OBAMA.sad part is that most of the union members voted for him..talk about shooting urself in the foo

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Wheeldog

Aug-18-13 1:00 PM

Ormet is closing largely because it cannot afford the cost of electricity and remain competitive. It is unlikely that electricity rates will substantially drop, so Ormet is ultimately a losing proposition. That is how the marketplace works.

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atoddh

Aug-18-13 12:53 PM

The situation is almost identical to Century which is now closed.

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atoddh

Aug-18-13 12:49 PM

Melvin makes an excellent point. All involved should agree to a 50% reduction in pay. This should cover the electric bill.50% of something is better than 100% of nothing.

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Steelman69

Aug-18-13 12:39 PM

You can't spend $billions at Cardnal and Mitchell, institute a law about generating a % of your power from higher cost renewable energy and not have somebody pay for it. The costs are passed on and destroy manufacturing. When will Sen.Brown, Obama and the liberal Dems. figure it out!!

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richardwhee

Aug-18-13 12:23 PM

Appears to me that the only thing they care about is taxes from Ormet, mainly for schools.Schools are very important but athletics should be secondary. Who saved steel, pottery,glass, textiles etc.? The unions were/are still trying to protect their empire, but the world advances.

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Johnson2616

Aug-18-13 10:26 AM

"same cycle of production then lay offs, then hire new cheaper emoyees..and so on..." Pretty sure the union at Ormet would'nt/did'nt allow this to happen.

"It must compete. Steel in the OV could not nor could glass." Nor could pottery, texile, shoes, electronics, appliances, etc. Competition can only occur on a level playing field and overseas labor cost just does'nt allow this to happen; Ormet's fault - no, union's fault - no, federal goverment not doing it's job - yes.

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readerx

Aug-18-13 10:00 AM

Legislators do what their BOSS tells them to do and ordinary citizens are not the boss.

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wvhoopie

Aug-18-13 8:34 AM

Helping yourselves means getting off your behind and visit you representatives and push hard. Individual and group lobbying gets results. Help yourselves and get off your butt and get involved. It works! Legislators count votes.

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Melvin

Aug-18-13 8:20 AM

Donnie Blatt, USW District 1 Rapid Response coordinator, said: "We can't expect anyone else to help us if we don't help ourselves."

So Donnie should grab a megaphone and say ---

--- So I want all the union brother workers and retirees to help ourselves. You need to contribute money out of your pocket to help lower the rate. That would be us helping ourselves. Cause frankly it isn't fair to ask workers who make less than you and don't have as nicea pensions to subsidize our jobs and better benefits through them paying higher electricity bills. Then we would be helping ourselves --

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acousticportal

Aug-18-13 7:03 AM

This has been Ormet's usual business practice for over 30 years...same cycle of production then lay offs, then hire new cheaper emoyees..and so on...

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