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Jobs Picture Stays Muddled

Unemployment rate drops as jobless quit looking

September 7, 2013

WASHINGTON (AP) — Employers are sketching a hazy picture of the U.....

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dyingov

Sep-08-13 10:13 PM

What kind of "living" will you be wanting Hoopie? Yukon in the drive of your $250,000 house or 10 year old sedan in the drive of your $50,000 house? What exactly is a "living wage?"

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TrollSlayer

Sep-08-13 9:37 PM

I encourage you to try it your way, though. Make it a law that employer have to pay burger flippers and stock boys a $15 “living wage” and watch the jobs just disappear. NOBODY will put forth the extra effort it takes to be a skilled laborer or manager or company owner if they can make the same “living wage” being a burger flipper. You think the 15% Obama real unemployment rate is bad? You ain’t seen nothin’ yet. LOL

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TrollSlayer

Sep-08-13 9:36 PM

You have it backwards, hoopie, as usual. The problem isn’t the low wages. The problem is all the free food, housing, and medical care. With all that free stuff available, people know they can just blow off school, blow off training, get a no-skill, min-wage job flipping burgers or stocking shelves, and by just collecting all that redistributed wealth from the Government on top of their minimum wages, for little effort they can still live pretty well. If America hadn’t gone down the unconstitutional redistribution road in the first place, people wouldn't expect to be able to survive on those no-skill jobs, and they would have taken education and training more seriously.

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wvhoopie

Sep-08-13 9:14 PM

A lot of service work does not pay much. Those low salaries qualify the workers for gov't food stamps, health care and housing. I believe employers should have to pay a living wage so that the workers do not qualify for govt assistance. The profits of many low wage company's are in the billions of dollars with top mgt receiving outrageous salaries. We need a living wage law not a minimum wage law.

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daWraith

Sep-08-13 4:00 PM

Boweltransplant, people who post twice are also DUMBASSES!

Rangar is correct, technology is another reason for job loss. Many jobs are replaced by technology and just plain are GONE, not moved to China.

ATM machines eliminated the need for thousands of bank tellers.

Automation in many industries, including auto, have reduced the labor force by 75% while we are still building the same or more automobiles with 1/4 the people.

How many companies have secrtaries for the white collar workers? The guys all use Word and Excel and Powerpoint themselves, nobody needs a secretary to do "typing".

And so on.

Those jobs are GONE everywhere in the world, not just the USA.

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TrollSlayer

Sep-08-13 2:30 PM

cal, when your entire argument consists of racebaiting foolishness like “that black man in the white house” and what you appear to find clever but in fact are vulgar, classless names like “rightards” you have a long way to go before you can call anyone else ignorant. But please keep posting that drivel, because you're serving as a model liberal loon. LOL

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caltransplant

Sep-08-13 1:58 PM

Blackhead, when you make statements like "worst leader in history" and "liberal loon, you confirm your ignorance. Polly want a cracker?

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caltransplant

Sep-08-13 1:56 PM

Technology is a major job killer Ragnar. Why is it that anyone who disagrees with this Wraith guy is a "dumbass"? Why isn't he in the White House?

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caltransplant

Sep-08-13 1:54 PM

Technology is a major job killer Ragnar. Why is it that anyone who disagrees with this Wraith guy is a "dumbass"? Why isn't he in the White House?

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1whoworks

Sep-08-13 12:20 PM

OK, lets talk Globalization and Outsourcing. It boils down to competition. When all of us go to the store we want the lowest prices for our goods. The US cannot compete when they increase the cost of goods by regulations that the companies here have to comply with the elsewhere they do not. Here in the US the EPA has affected our lives greatly in both positive and negative ways. Unchecked they will create a sterile environments where it is very expensive to do business and live. This will last until some other country wants our resources and finds us weak and inept and they will take them. History has repeated similar situations time and time again. We have two paths. The path of idealism that we are currently on. Or we could go more realistic maintain a clean but not sterile environment (remember we are all going to die at some point) and prosper once again.

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LogHog

Sep-08-13 7:11 AM

dyingov it shows the stupidity for anyone to disagree with you posting of the words from the article. Bet this same people are all for Obama to Attack Syria also. Psychopaths are running our govt.

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daWraith

Sep-07-13 6:52 PM

Boweltransplant, so when the unemployment was running 5% or less under BUSH BUSH BUSH and we had a record 53 quarters of economic gain, there was NO outsourcing and no globalization going ON????

WOW! Better call Guinness book of records.

Outsourcing has increased thanks to Obama and Obamacare mandate. The easiest way to beat obamacare is HAVE NO EMPLOYEES and outsource EVERYTHING.

DUMBASS!

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WVEXPAT

Sep-07-13 6:20 PM

It's sad that two of Obama's most supportive groups have suffered the most. Millennial's have had a bleak future and getting worse from just last year. Only 43.6% of the young are employed and that is down 4% from last year. The unemployment rate among blacks increased last month from 12.6% to 13%. The % of blacks employed is at a 28 year low down to 60.8% with over 200,000 dropping out of the labor force since May (BLS).

The unemployment rate among women actually increased last month to 10.6% as 50,000 women dropped out of the labor force. I think "muddled" isn't quite strong enough to describe this jobs picture.

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dyingov

Sep-07-13 2:33 PM

The US has a trade deficit?

Our number one export/manufactured item is military arms, good for future reasons to have war.....

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Ragnar

Sep-07-13 1:42 PM

A lot of our traditional manufacturing jobs have NOT been outsourced.

Instead, technology/automation have made those jobs obsolete.

There is a Lego factory in Denmark that uses ZERO workers in the production process. There are car factories that make extensive use of robots and computers. Robots can be programmed to work 24/7 with superior quality control. They don't sabotage the work, go on strike, demand higher wages or demand bailouts.

Why do you think we produce FAR more agricultural output now vs. 100 years ago?

Why do our steel companies produce much more steel, with fewer workers?

Answer-technology.

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WVEXPAT

Sep-07-13 11:46 AM

Cal, Also agreed on the outsourcing issue! "American jobs have been shifting to low-wage countries for years, and the trend has continued during Obama’s presidency. From 2008 to 2010, U.S. trade with China alone cost about 450,000 American jobs because of the growth of Chinese exports, said Robert E. Scott, a pro-labor advocate at the liberal Economic Policy Institute." (WaPo)

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WVEXPAT

Sep-07-13 10:05 AM

Cal,

"there is nothing any politician can do about it"

I agree!! Bigger govt is NOT the answer!

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Blackrock

Sep-07-13 10:04 AM

The "black man" just happens to be a liberal loon who doesn't have a clue and is the worst leader this nation has ever had, Transplant. Is all you have is to play the race card?

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caltransplant

Sep-07-13 9:47 AM

that's rightards

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caltransplant

Sep-07-13 9:46 AM

Until you rightwards get real and accept the fact that the real culprits are globalization and outsourcing, combined with a population the continues to grow, and that there is nothing any politician can do about it, then all of your stone throwing at liberals and that black man in the white house is totally irrelevant. You might as well just bash your head into the wall. The ignorance of your blame game is amazing!

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WVEXPAT

Sep-07-13 8:59 AM

NY Times, "The economy added 169,000 jobs last month, a mediocre performance that is all the more disappointing in light of downward revisions to the tallies for June and July. At the recent pace, it would take until well into 2021 to replace the 8.3 million jobs that were lost or never created in the Great Recession and its slow-growth aftermath."

2021!! So liberal ideals, combined w/ some horrible bi-partisan legislation, lost us 8.3 million jobs. And employing more liberal policies it will take us until 2021 to recover.

Hey, let's do more of that!!

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1whoworks

Sep-07-13 8:40 AM

The only thing "muddled" is Obama's brain and his followers unbridled loyalty. Government is not the answer. Lack of government is.

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WVEXPAT

Sep-07-13 8:35 AM

The lowest % of Americans working since 1978!! From the NY Times, "As of August, there were 7.9 million Americans who wanted to work full time but could find only part-time work. When these workers and people who want a job but have stopped looking are included, the total underemployment rate rises to 13.7 percent."

Obamanomics is NOT working!!

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WVEXPAT

Sep-07-13 8:27 AM

"(Reuters) - The new U.S. healthcare law deters hiring because employers are wary of taking on new staff when they do not know how much it will cost to provide benefits, a top Federal Reserve official said on Thursday. Meanwhile, the U.S. central bank's $85 billion-a-month bond-buying program, aimed at boosting hiring, actually does little in that regard, Dallas Fed President Richard Fisher said."

Well, at least Wall St has gotten rich off Obama's policies. Main St, not so much!

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mikeyd

Sep-07-13 8:06 AM

and the price of just about everything has doubled since obama took over.carter wasn't much of a president but we would take him now.

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