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Alarmists Stymied By Calmer Weather

September 12, 2013

You may remember that for a couple of years, severe heat waves, strong hurricanes and vicious tornadoes plagued some regions of the country....

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oldsteelmaker

Sep-16-13 7:40 PM

Dawg, the fact remains that the predictions of a decade ago are NOT coming true. That is something you cannot deny. Or maybe you can, but doesn't make it so. Houston had more record cold days this summer than record highs. How does that fit? Detroit had frost in the suburbs last week.

All things considered, there is absolutely nothing happening in the climate that is unprecedented. There is NO EVIDENCE that this is out of the ordinary. To claim otherwise shows you are a climate normalcy denier!! A fanatic! The very thing you accuse us of!

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daWraith

Sep-15-13 10:37 PM

Wheezerdawg, the fact that you have no comprehension of the current state of the art in Climate Change is simply an admission that you are ignorant old prentender who doesn't know squat.

Lots of buffoons have original "thoughts"; like armpits, EVERYBODY has a couple and they STINK!

When you did a report in school, what did you for references? Cite Wheeldawg says (1) Wheeldawg says (2)... Wheeldawg says 23.

The fact is: you are just a uniformed ignorant-ass narcissist.

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Wheeldog

Sep-15-13 9:39 PM

"I accumulate an E-library of articles of interest on a few subjects like AGW such that a couple of mouseclicks and searches and I can blow away your trivial anal postings and move on to more challenging pursuits."

Ah, dah, the truth finally outs! You are a confirmed cut -n-paste facade who rarely acknowledges that he has no original thoughts of his own but plagiarizes the works of others and passes it off as his own. Likely your every waking hour is spent frantically switching from one forum to another in attempts to deluge your imagined cyber audience with your fantasy brilliance. Have you ever had a real life?

Just for the heck of it I did a quick tally of the posts on this single topic. Here are the results: 1whoworks = 1, promo =1, oldsteel = 3, atoddh = 1, wvhoopie = 1, dyingov = 1, miked = 2, wheeldog = 6, da = 34! That is only for a single topic just on this small forum. Likely you are hooked into many more. When do you come up for air?

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daWraith

Sep-15-13 6:47 PM

Alarmistdawg, the fact that you can't defend your position with any meaningful discussion other than a stupid link to NASA ASSA is your problem.

Your limited IQ and understanding of the state of Climate Science today is hilarious. If I were you, I would stay away from a public forums like this where you get your HEAD handed to you.

I'm sure you can impress the folks at the rest home by your knowledge of Clark Gable movies.

I accumulate an E-library of articles of interest on a few subjects like AGW such that a couple of mouseclicks and searches and I can blow away your trivial anal postings and move on to more challenging pursuits.

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Wheeldog

Sep-15-13 1:48 PM

dah, do you ever count how many posts it takes for you to say something that should be simple? You just can't resist the ole "bury em in b.s." when you can't wow em with intellect! Bottom line, you are still wrong regardless of how posts you shovel onto the forum.

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daWraith

Sep-15-13 10:50 AM

mikey, Yaba Daba DOOOO!

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mikeyd

Sep-15-13 9:47 AM

wraithy,is that park ranger the one from jellystone park?

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daWraith

Sep-15-13 9:33 AM

Ask the residents in Colorado how that "HOT AND DRY" prediction of global warming is working out them? this week?

Almost made it through 2013 without a named hurricane hitting the USA. How is that forecast of MORE and VIOLENT storms working out for us???

Climate Scientists have lost all credibility.

Stop pizzing on my leg and telling me it is rain from Global Warming, Dawg!

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daWraith

Sep-15-13 9:26 AM

1whoworks, thanks for the backup from somebody who WORKS in the field and KNOWS the truth.

The NSA was caught LYING about SPYING, HHS was caught LYING about OBAMACARE, why would ANYBODY believe that NASA is telling the truth on a POLITICAL SCIENCE subject like Global Warming??!!!

Many in NASA believe that James Hansan should have been FIRED years ago for his political activism on AGW.

He has been arrested about a dozen times for demonstrations on GW and pollution causes.He is an ACTIVIST, not a SCIENTIST.

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1whoworks

Sep-15-13 9:07 AM

Thanks daWraith. All well said, including the actual facts. Typically government data is skewed based on the politics of those who are posting the data. I was on the DOE site last week where they claim a capacity factor of 36% for wind power. I have spent a career in power generation and transmission. All I can say is go out and try to find a contractor that will guarantee you that for a money bound contract. Won't happen.

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daWraith

Sep-15-13 6:58 AM

Notice AlarmistDawg has JACKSHEET to cite, so he bads others as "cut and paste" and ad hominem attacks on the sources, not the facts.

Like AL GORE, Alarmist Dawg can't debate the FACTS

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daWraith

Sep-15-13 6:56 AM

It's all POLITICAL SCIENCE, AlarmistDAWG!!

From Germany Der Spiegel:

Der SPIEGEL: You are an electric utility executive by profession. What prompted you to get involved in climatology?

Vahrenholt: In my experience as an energy expert, I learned that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) is more of a POLITICAl than a scientific body. As a rapporteur on renewable energy, I witnessed how thin the factual basis is for predictions that are made at the IPCC. In one case, a Greenpeace activist's absurd claim that 80 percent of the world's energy supply could soon be coming from renewable sources was ASSUMED WITHOUT SCRUTINY. This prompted me to examine the IPCC report more carefully.

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daWraith

Sep-15-13 6:48 AM

When it comes to Climate Science, NASA is clearly as reliable as the Farmers Almanac, Astrological "science" and "Numerology"!

But Alarmistdawg sits in his smelly Depends believing JUNK SCIENCE while the rest of us KNOW we have been conned out of billions for POLITICAL SCIENCE.

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daWraith

Sep-15-13 6:45 AM

NASA? My A%%A!

"But in the year 2000, NASA and NOAA altered the historical US temperature record, which now shows that there was about one degree centigrade US warming during the century before 1989.

Hansen’s recent temperature data tampering is not limited to the US.

He has done the same thing all over the planet. Below is one recent example in Iceland, where he dramatically cooled the first half of the century, and warmed the present. He appears to be trying to erase evidence that there was a very warm period in much of the Arctic around 1940. "

Like ClimateGate, NASA has tampered with their own data to spin the Global Warming Hoax alive to keep those Government Tax Dollars COMING!

Like DenialDawg, all they have are LIES and BUUUSHEET to back them up.

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daWraith

Sep-15-13 6:42 AM

NASA?? My A%%A!!!

James Hansen 1999:

"Empirical evidence does not lend much support to the notion that climate is headed precipitately toward more extreme heat and drought. The drought of 1999 covered a smaller area than the 1988 drought, when the Mississippi almost dried up.

And 1988 was a temporary inconvenience as compared with repeated droughts during the 1930s “Dust Bowl” that caused an exodus from the prairies, as chronicled in Steinbeck’s Grapes of Wrath.

NASA GISS: Science Briefs: Whither U.S. Climate?

In that same 1999 report, he showed that US temperatures peaked in 1934, and declined through the rest of the century. "

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daWraith

Sep-15-13 6:40 AM

NASA? My A%%A!

"Spectacularly Poor Climate Science At NASA

Dr. James Hansen of NASA, has been the world’s leading promoter of the idea that the world is headed towards “climate disaster.” There is little evidence to back this up.

In 2008, Hansen wrote about “stabilizing” the climate : Stabilizing atmospheric CO2 and climate requires that net CO2 emissions approach zero, because of the long lifetime of CO2 arxiv****/ftp/arxiv/papers/0804/0804.1126.pdf

Yet in 1999, he made it quite clear that past climate was not stable, and that there was little evidence to support that idea that the climate was becoming unstable."

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daWraith

Sep-15-13 6:38 AM

NASA? My A%%A!!

New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism

By James Taylor | Forbes – Wed, Jul 27, 2011

NASA satellite data from the years 2000 through 2011 show the Earth's atmosphere is allowing far more heat to be released into space than alarmist computer models have predicted, reports a new study in the peer-reviewed science journal Remote Sensing. The study indicates far less future global warming will occur than United Nations computer models have predicted, and supports prior studies indicating increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide trap far less heat than alarmists have claimed.

Study co-author Dr. Roy Spencer, a principal research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville and U.S. Science Team Leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer flying on NASA's Aqua satellite, reports that real-world data from NASA's Terra satellite contradict multiple assumptions fed into alarmist computer models.

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daWraith

Sep-15-13 6:36 AM

NASA?? My A%%A!!!

"With hundreds of well-known climate scientists and tens of thousands of other scientists publicly declaring their disbelief in the catastrophic forecasts, coming particularly from the GISS leadership, it is clear that the science is NOT settled. “The unbridled advocacy of CO2 being the major cause of climate change is unbecoming of NASA’s history of making an objective assessment of all available scientific data prior to making decisions or public statements.” The signees charge NASA with advocating an “extreme position” on climate change “prior to a thorough study of the possible overwhelming impact of natural climate drivers.”

They conclude: “At risk is damage to the exemplary reputation of NASA, NASA’s current or former scientists and employees, AND EVEN THE REPUTATION OF SCIENCE ITSELF.”

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daWraith

Sep-15-13 6:34 AM

NASA? My A%%A!!

"Fifty top scientists, astronauts, and engineers who have worked for NASA are attacking the space agency’s stance that manmade carbon dioxide is responsible for global climate change.

Seven Apollo astronauts and the deputy director of the space shuttle program are among the experts — with more than 1,000 years of combined professional experience — who have signed a letter to NASA Administrator Charles Bolden.

The letter begins: “We, the undersigned, respectfully request that NASA and the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) refrain from including unproven remarks in public releases and websites. We believe the claims by NASA and GISS that manmade carbon dioxide is having a catastrophic impact on global climate change are not substantiated, especially when considering thousands of years of empirical data"

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daWraith

Sep-15-13 6:30 AM

What part of "the worlds top climate scientists ADMIT they were wrong" don't you get???

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daWraith

Sep-15-13 6:30 AM

Denialdawg, even the IPCC (Internatonal Panel of CLIMATE CROOKS) has to admit the the politically motivated "CREDIBLE CLIMATE SCIENTISTS" have WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!

"UK Global: warming is just HALF what we said: World’s top climate scientists admit computers got the effects of greenhouse gases wrong

Posted on September 14, 2013 by Steve Milloy | 1 Comment

The Daily Mail reports:

A leaked copy of the world’s most authoritative climate study reveals scientific forecasts of imminent doom were drastically wrong.

The Mail on Sunday has obtained the final draft of a report to be published later this month by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), the ultimate watchdog whose massive, six-yearly ‘assessments’ are accepted by environmentalists, politicians and experts as the gospel of climate science."

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daWraith

Sep-15-13 6:26 AM

Who says 97% of the "credible scientists" Cite the source on who is a "credible scientist" you ignorant cretin! That is exactly how this con job used to be pulled, a handful of pigs making a living on alarmist grants would only review other alarmist grant science!

The good old boyz club has been destroyed with CLIMATE GATE fraud disclosures.

Hate to break it to you fool, it aint 1996 and the good old days of Al "the Harasser" Gore,dude.

NASA NASA NASA??? Everybody knows the politics of the director of Nasa James Hansen, the FATHER of GLOBAL WARMING HOAX. Everybody knows the direction of OBama "NASA's main mission is to look for signs of global warming"!!!!! If you job depeneds on it, do you think you MIGHT be able to spin the data to make it LOOK like global.

This is all WELL DOCUMENTED on the web that NASA is political motivated JOKE these days. But when you live in Podunk and are Computer illiterate, well you are just STUCK ON STUPID.

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Wheeldog

Sep-14-13 10:32 PM

"htt p ://arctic. atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/timeseries.global.anom.1979-2008"

dah, you have gotta be kidding! This is one of your primary sources of climate information?? You consider this to be more credible than NOAA, NASA and 97% of credible climate scientists?? You really do live in a world of make believe. You gotta get out more!

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daWraith

Sep-14-13 9:57 PM

Wheezerdawg, the facts are in from all parts of the globe and the unmistakable conclusion is that THERE IS no such thing a global warming, man caused or other.

The fact that you live in Podunk and have limited access to the Internet is YOUR problem. YOu can't cite Sheet to support your position, just NASA NASA NASA. Like citing the IRS if you owe more taxes, get an effing clue!

It was 38 last night in metro Detroit, will be what about 45 in Wheeeeling tonight in the middle of Sept? PFFFFFFTTtttttttt!

Stop pizzing on my leg and telling me "scientists" call it rain.

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Wheeldog

Sep-14-13 9:34 PM

Ah, dah! You really are amazingly predicable. You literally spray forum with cut and paste posts to refute viewpoints that descent from your own position. It's essentially a "bury them in B.S." tactic. The climate change topic obviously frightens you, and that makes you angry. Chances are that you know it is real, but you just want it to go away. If it is any consolation I also wish it would go away, but I know denial and wishful thinking won't solve the problem. Unfortunately, we have almost certainly passed the "point of no return" where we might have dodged the climate bullet. The real question now is how severe will be the consequences? Remember the Chinese curse, "May you live in interesting times." The coming years will be climatically interesting.

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