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Eagle Deaths No Problem for Obama

September 13, 2013

If you want to open a coal mine or drill a gas well in an area where certain types of rare fish or other endangered wildlife live, be prepared to be told you will have to change your plans....

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JimWiegand

Sep-17-13 3:23 PM

The latest news story about 85 eagles killed at wind farms does not even begin to discuss the magnitude of the turbine eagle kill problem or the exploding numbers of bald eagles that will be killed in the years ahead. At Altamont 126 dead eagles were picked up between 2005 and 2010 from turbine searches 36 days apart. The total estimated number killed is between 3-10 times that many because they never find them all. The industry would be happy as can be if the ignorant public would believe that about 85 eagles had died in the last 5 years, as the article suggests. Over 85 eagles a year die at California Wind farms the 5 year total for the US is probably over 1000. And that was the entire point of the article, to deceive. There is also something else that every reader must consider...............Why was information from such a poorly researched article published carried by AP and mainstream media outlets?

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JimWiegand

Sep-17-13 3:23 PM

Everybody should be concerned about how a bogus article was published in Raptor Research and then was carried across the country by AP and mainstream media outlets for propaganda purposes. Over 85 eagles a year die at California Wind farms and there are wind farms that are even bigger killers of birds and bats than Altamont. We would know all about them if the FWS and conservation groups were not covering for this fraudulent industry. Hundreds if not thousands of eagles have perished in Texas over the years but no one has heard a word because of FWS "Voluntary Regulations" and the locked gates of wind farms on private land. Over the years several thousand eagles have died at Altamont and the industry expects the idiots of the world to believe this is an aberration.

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JimWiegand

Sep-17-13 3:22 PM

The propeller style wind turbine is a killer in every habitat. Every flying species that shares this same habitat will be killed. It is no different than the nerve gas that was used in Syria. This nerve gas is lethal any where it is used and it is no different with these turbines. They slaughter birds and bats no matter where they are located. If not stopped, the wind industry with only "voluntary regulations" will continue to hide their ongoing genocide and will cause the extinction of species. In the meantime the FWS service should stop giving and revoke all "take permits" because of the fraudulent way this industry operates. Any permits given for just 1 endangered species or one eagle will result in the death of many because this industry hides over 90% of their mortality.

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mikeyd

Sep-16-13 7:44 AM

need some kind of device installed on the blade tips that make a noise that the eagles don't like.

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daWraith

Sep-15-13 12:36 PM

And the rusted oldvanman has jackshiite.

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WVEXPAT

Sep-15-13 12:07 PM

From the IPCC report "For the next two decades, a warming of about 0.2°C per decade is projected for a range of SRES emission scenarios. Even if the concentrations of all greenhouse gases and aerosols had been kept constant at year 2000 levels, a further warming of about 0.1°C per decade would be expected. {10.3, 10.7}"

Even if this model plays out the cost to combat the increase would require 80% of the worlds GDP, where adapting to the damage done (if it occurs) is approx 2% of World GDP. So even if you completely agree w/ IPCC projections the current course of abatement makes no sense whatsoever.

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WVEXPAT

Sep-15-13 11:48 AM

.....o meet the later and far lesser cost of climate-related damage arising from unabated global warming of 3 Cº the day after tomorrow."

Search "50 to 1 project video"

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WVEXPAT

Sep-15-13 11:46 AM

OSM, Interesting topic regarding the Australians and their experiences on the subject. From the report "Is CO2 mitigation cost-effective?"

"This summary updates Monckton of Brenchley (2013), read at the World Federation of Scientists’ 2012 Seminars on Planetary Emergencies. For the first time, the paper combined mainstream IPCC climatology and inter-temporal investment appraisal. The cost of Australia’s CO2 tax (Parliament of Australia, 2011) over its ten-year term was compared with the benefit in the cost of warming-related damage avoided by the tax"

"ost-benefit ratio: The cost of immediate mitigation divided by that of later adaptation is 80% / 1.5%, or 53. It is at least 50 times more expensive and less cost-effective to mitigate CO2 emissions by typical measures such as Australia’s carbon tax than to take no action at all today and, instead, to meet the later and far lesser cost of climate-related damage arising from unabated global warming of 3 Cº

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oldmansvan

Sep-15-13 11:00 AM

These right wing crazies are happy in their ignorance. This article proves it.

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daWraith

Sep-15-13 10:47 AM

Putin would make a better president than BHO!

I hear Opie wants to replace the Bald Eagle make the Buzzard the official bird of the USA.

After all, it is a scavenger that lives off the road kill of white trash!

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oldsteelmaker

Sep-15-13 12:25 AM

FYI, The Australians, being much more sensible people than us, have seen the error of their ways. One term after electing a committed Greenie as prime minister, they have totally booted them out. To show how drastic a change this is, they have taken seven agencies running eight departments and collapsed them into three departments run by two, and 33 programs into THREE. The bureaucrats will be getting pink slips shortly. BTW, the election was a week ago. They have totally chopped the carbon tax.

Too bad we can't get some of their pols in our politics.

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oldsteelmaker

Sep-14-13 9:27 PM

My point? It takes energy to make hydrogen from sea water. It takes energy to combine that with carbon dioxide to make a viable fuel. YOU CAN'T MAKE SOMETHING FROM NOTHING.

So why are they going through this charade? Simple. The Navy works for the Secretary of Defense. And who does the Secretary of Defense work for? Hint, his initials are BHO.

If the boss tells you to do something stupid, you try to talk him out of it, but if you can't, you do something stupid.

To descend to birdie's level, windmills kill more eagles than coal mines.

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oldsteelmaker

Sep-14-13 9:22 PM

This is probably a waste of time, but here goes...

The vast majority of politicians, like obie, have no concept of science or engineering. they think the reason cars don't get 50 MPG is the greedy oil and car guys. Even owning Government Motors has done nothing to penetrate that level of invincible ignorance.

Ever hear of the three laws of thermodynamics? Stripped of the math, they boil down to 1. You can't win 2. You can't break even 3. You can't get out of the game.

1 is why perpetual motion machines don't work. 2 is the simple fact that while there may be enough energy in a gallon of gas to go 100 miles, entropy effects waste most of it. Bearings have friction, there's wind resistance, the exhaust is hot, wasting more energy, and all of these cannot be reduced without using energy in other ways.

And 3 means we are stuck with it. You can't make entropy go backwards, not in this universe.

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Gooseman

Sep-14-13 8:44 PM

duhhhhhhhRAT...just wanted all you hair on fire right wing extremists to get all up in your own burning hair over the Onion. As you did. Thanks.

I find the NR similar to the Onion, but at least the Onion admits it prints farces.

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daWraith

Sep-14-13 8:02 PM

And the rusted oldvanman has jackshiite.

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oldmansvan

Sep-14-13 5:39 PM

This story shows how desperate the righties are. They have nothing relevant.

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sounder

Sep-14-13 11:22 AM

West Virginia hangs on to Coal the way Southern apologists for the Civil War glorify the "Lost Cause". So when the last strip, mountain removal has been completed--that deep shaft underground mine finally depleted; just another hole and tunnels remain, not even welcoming for a bat. Is there like a Plan B for what the lost counties of the Commonwealth of Virginia might do in order to earn their keep--other than being tourist curiosities for crowds making their way into the interior from the Atlantic Seaboard?

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WVEXPAT

Sep-14-13 9:29 AM

The Onion, Daily Kos, TPM are all equally believable to liberals! LOL

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daWraith

Sep-14-13 8:46 AM

Gooseman are you stupid enough to BELIEVE that article from the Onion in 2005??

You DO know that was Satire not Fact??

ALso in the satire article:

"What about less prominent but far more abundant fowl common to residential areas, such as bluebirds, cardinals, or geese—shouldn't they die, too?" said Democratic Party strategist Elaine Quigley, appearing on MSNBC's Hardball. "Benjamin Franklin once said that the wild turkey, not the bald eagle, should be the emblematic bird of America. Why aren't we executing those, too?"

The Office Of The White House Counsel, which oversees the usage of all executive-branch insignias, is expected to approve a new eagle-free presidential seal as early as next week."

I think "Goose"man has a terminal case of bird flu.

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WVEXPAT

Sep-14-13 8:36 AM

" just how much an idiot this nappy hair refugee from a watermelon patch is."

I've disagreed w/ just about every policy Obama has put forth, but these types of statements are completely uncalled for! What a complete idiot! Do you really think you have any credibility after such a post??

STFU!!!!! Your ignorance does nothing to advance the debate!

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Johnson2616

Sep-14-13 8:15 AM

WVUGEO, I'm sure you'll correct me if I'm wrong but was'nt a coal to liquid fuel plant built in Morgantown following the gas shortage/lines in the early 70S; a plant that never went into production, has set empty for decades, and other uses are being sought for it? If so, I would'nt consider Obama's support of a coal to liquid fuel bill of 2007 anything more than him buying a political IOU from a senior senator.

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Gooseman

Sep-14-13 6:47 AM

The Onion-"Bush Orders Mass Bald Eagle Slaughter To Stop Spread Of Bird Flu- Nov 2, 2005 WASHINGTON, DC—As experts issue increasingly dire warnings of an avian flu epidemic, President Bush signed an executive order Tuesday authorizing the mass slaughter of "all bald eagles found anywhere within our borders.""As president, my first duty is to protect the American people, whether the threat is terrorists or deadly, fast-mutating bird viruses," said Bush, standing on the lawn of the National Mall before a specially built pyre stacked with recently killed bald eagles. "This proactive initiative will rid our nation of this potentially disease-ridden winged animal."

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Blackrock

Sep-14-13 6:37 AM

Interesting how the country elected a black man but now once he becomes known as incompetent on every level and is denounced as such, all those who do so are to "put on their "hoods". Typical liberal blather. Do you not have any other means to defend the actions or inactions of the president? No, you do not.

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VRWC5528

Sep-13-13 10:28 PM

GETACLUE

Sep-13-13 8:26 AM Agree | Disagree

Johnson2616..... You have just been promoted to PRESIDENT OF DOUCHEBAGISTAN!!!>>

You're voluntarily giving up your position?

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VRWC5528

Sep-13-13 10:27 PM

And, since President Obama is targeted here, why is it never mentioned that, while still a US Senator, he partnered with WV's Senator Robert Byrd>>

And we all know how the Byrd, the Grand Wizard of the WV KKK liked them black folks.

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