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Obama, Gas Raise Ire Of Murray

September 15, 2013

BLUEFIELD, W.Va. — Robert Murray believes Barack Obama and Aubrey McClendon are undermining the coal industry and threatening the livelihoods of thousands of familie....

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OhValleyGuy

Sep-15-13 1:26 AM

Yet more free press and free publicity for Bob Murray, compliments of the Intel/N-R...And yet more comments which cause most reasonable persons to discount much of what Murray says, and cause them to take him even less seriously than they may have in the past. What's with the love affair between this "news" paper and this guy?

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icecream

Sep-15-13 2:10 AM

Seems to me, from reading the article, that Coal is at war with Natural Gas--both sources in West Virginia...

WV is at war with itself???

Interesting, both have a Global Market interested in both Coal and Natural Gas...

Leaving Obama out of this equation; It is the Global market that is buying Coal and Natural Gas and any other energy we can supply...

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daWraith

Sep-15-13 6:17 AM

Name ONE action Obama has done in 56 months that would be considered FAVORABLE to coal??? Just ONE.

Imcreamed you cretin, stop using the bogus global market crap to cover for the incompetent jerkoff in the White House.

The first law of economics ALWAYS applies so if you RESTRICT the supply, you CONTROL the price of the different energy sources.

Barry the Brainless has spent 56 months trying to make inexpensive energy EXPENSIVE so that ridiculous expense "Alternative Energy" looks more reasonable.

The only thing that has accomplished is to make ALL forms of energy more expensive than the free market says they should be.

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SMART1

Sep-15-13 6:20 AM

Keep it up Bob Murray! Obama is a dud and many dud lovers, don't want to admit it! Thanks for all you do in employing many in the valley! At least on your resume, you are not a community organizer from Chicago! A friend wanted to know if I watched the President on evening tv last week? I replied, for 30 seconds, I couldn't find the remote to change the channel! Go GOP!

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RockEReputation

Sep-15-13 6:53 AM

..much ado about nutting

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WVUGEO

Sep-15-13 7:56 AM

One critical statement that shouldn't be missed: "the EPA states that the venting of unburned methane can be up to 20 times more harmful to the atmosphere than the burning of coal". That is unequivocally true. Methane chemically and physically is a much, much more potent, some say a 100 times more potent, greenhouse gas than CO2; and, a lot of it leaks from the distribution system and, especially, from fracked gas fields. Cornell University Professor Bob Howarth made that claim some years ago, and was immediately lambasted by everyone, especially the gas industry and their mouthpieces. But, the methane leakage and it's effects were confirmed just this year by researchers at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) and the University of Colorado at a shale gas field in Wyoming. Based on their measurements and calculations, switching to shale gas from coal could cause much more greenhouse warming.

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WVUGEO

Sep-15-13 8:12 AM

What's really depressing about articles like this, Mr. Murray's commendable advocacy for an industry that actually employs West Virginians rather than migrants and temps from OK, LA amd TX aside, is that the real potentials for Coal are ignored. Just this year, West Virginia University was awarded three US Patents: "8,449,632 - Sewage Material in Coal Liquefaction"; "8,465,561 - Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil in Coal Liquefaction"; and: "United States Patent 8,512,551 - Forming Cement as a By-Product of Coal Liquefaction", which, taken together, show how Coal can enable the consumption of some noxious wastes and renewable agricultural produce, with implications for Carbon recycling, in processes that create a synthetic crude oil they state to be perfectly suitable as feed to a standard petroleum refinery, and solid residues that can be fed to a cement kiln. Why aren't we being educated about those developments?

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WVUGEO

Sep-15-13 8:26 AM

Even further, since the really big knock against Coal is Carbon Dioxide, why aren't we being informed that our own government knows how to use CO2 as a raw material from which we can synthesize hydrocarbons? For only two examples, there are others, in: "US Patent 7,420,004 - Producing Synthetic Liquid Hydrocarbon Fuels; 2008" and "US Patent 8,436,457 - Synthesis of Hydrocarbons Via Catalytic Reduction of CO2; 2013", our own US Navy, which owns both of those, and others similar, explains that wind and hydro can be used to power the collection of Carbon Dioxide from the environment and the conversion of that CO2 into liquid hydrocarbon fuels. The USDOE has some similar technologies, having even developed a few that use sunlight to convert CO2 into substitute natural gas Methane.

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wvhoopie

Sep-15-13 8:36 AM

Another whiney conservative. Coal is poison to the human body and we are sick of breathing that black filth that has been killing us for generations. Coal smoke kills. Increase the war on pollution.

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dyingov

Sep-15-13 9:00 AM

hoopie, "Increase the WAR on pollution!" Vehicles create more "greenhouses" gasses than the coal fired electric houses! Do you ride your bike?

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LizardKing

Sep-15-13 9:04 AM

What a miserable, hate-filled little man Murray is. He reminds me of a mortally wounded wild beast, striking out in all directions, in the hope of inflicting pain on others as well.

The is exactly the same type of whiner who was against the cotton gin, the steam engine and probably the wheel as well.

When you are on the wrong side of history, there is no answer, no solution, no hope.

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Ragnar

Sep-15-13 9:05 AM

wvhooplehead

I think that most honest Americans are fed up with the dishonest, hypocritical statements of liberals, from Barry Hussein Soetero down to you.

If you are so dead set against coal, fossil fuels, etc. why are you using a computer? Where is the electricity coming from?

Even the plastic in your iphone, laptop or desktop has a basis in oil.

The car that you drive uses oil, gas and various other fluids.

The lights in your home, your refrigerator, television, computer, toaster, coffeepot, music player, etc. use electricity that most likely comes from coal or nuclear power.

Why don't you stop using these things? Oh, that would be inconvenient. Much easier to criticize and ridicule something that YOU yourself use on a daily basis, then to offer any legitimate alternatives or support for the many Americans who work in good paying jobs in these areas.

Ormet employs 900 workers, is hero worshipped.

AEP employs 18,000 workers, is ridiculed.

Liberal "lo

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Ragnar

Sep-15-13 9:07 AM

You should also get rid of your furnace, now that winter is coming.

Your heat comes from electricity (coal), natural gas or oil. These things pollute the environment. They are bad. So you should not contribute to environmental damage.

Get rid of your furnace and put on a cardigan. That way, you will not be contributing to the pollution that is worse than having utilities, conveniences and jobs.

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Pathguy

Sep-15-13 9:23 AM

His opponent gave 51 million dollars to Siera and American Lung? First of all, hardly believable..Secondly, criticizing a man for giving to charity shows Mr Murray's bright, neon, mean streak..

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LogHog

Sep-15-13 9:36 AM

Clean unpolluted air to breath. Everyone wants this. Or do they? Funny how many of the same people claiming coal smoke kills and should be not allowed for any reason to enter the air, are the same people that smoke 1-2 packs a day. If Obama is really interested in clean air. Why do we see photos of him with a cig. hanging out of his pie whole? Natural gas is here. Cheap. And somewhat clean. Gas along with coal give the USA large reserves of energy sources to give our country advantages over many other countries. All we need is some common sense solutions to using these sources with out bankrupting ourselves in the process. Of course big Gas is attacking Big Coal. They are at odds for market share. It's called competition. Could be great for the American people. But doubt the politicians will allow it to be.

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whgfeeling

Sep-15-13 9:36 AM

most of you make Hanoi Hannah look like a loving American.

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ShempH

Sep-15-13 9:42 AM

Not a big "fan" of Bob Murray, but you really can't argue with what he is saying, completely accurate. Maybe his delivery could be a little different, then again the Liberal Progressives speak like this all the time with their lies and half truths.

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daWraith

Sep-15-13 9:44 AM

Whgfailing makes Murray look more patriotic than George Washington.

Go back to your P***no sites for your postings, BSartist.

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TheCentrist

Sep-15-13 9:47 AM

Why is cutting worker pay not a viable option for Murray? He never brings it up, but that would be a heck of a good solution for dealing with increased competition from gas & increased regulatory costs.

Why is it okay to blast the city of Wheeling for paying police officers a living wage, or teachers for wanting to attract/keep the best and brightest to that much needed sector of the economy but not bring up the fact that coal miners make a considerably better wage?

If Murray cut the starting miner pay in half then it would put mining on par with the other two professions (cops & teachers) and he would save a boatload of cash.

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daWraith

Sep-15-13 9:48 AM

Cow pharts in Iowa pollute more than coal.

KILL THE COWS, WVDroopie!

I'm surprised UNION TOOL like Droopie comes here using electricity produced by polluting coal, drives a Dodge Charger R/T which gets CRAP gas mileage and uses polluting gasoline, and posts on a computer made 100% in CHINA with non-Union labor.

You should back up your big mouth and drive a Prius, live on solar and wind power, and STFU!!

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WVUGEO

Sep-15-13 10:02 AM

A tad off-topic, but since Wraith named some auto brands, we think it appropriate to inform, that, in a news release from the Volkswagen Group: "Audi's New e-gas Plant Comes Online", June 25, 2013, it was announced that Audi is now, at a new factory in Germany, capturing industrial exhaust Carbon Dioxide, and, using wind-generated power to drive the process, is converting that CO2 into substitute natural gas Methane. Other reports relate their plans to establish a distribution system for their LNG vehicles. Think you're going to have an export market for shale gas? Think again. Panasonic has a similar, CO2-to-Methane, pilot operation underway in Japan, driven by sunlight.

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caltransplant

Sep-15-13 10:09 AM

Mr. Murray, your concern for miners and their families is underwhelming. Your only real concern is that the regulation of your filthy business is hitting you in the wallet. Keep up the good work, Mr. President!

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BPT4LIFE

Sep-15-13 10:13 AM

Does no one remember the Crandall Canyon Mine Collapse back in 2007 and Murray's handling of that situation? He wanted all press to get their info. directly from him, became irate when they tried to report other info. or fact check on their own, and it turns out that many of the claims he made during that disaster have since been debunked, or at least heavily doubted due to information that the press and industry experts have been able to gather?

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dyingov

Sep-15-13 10:21 AM

pathguy, Just follow the money....

"According to its own financial statements the American Lung Associaton (ALA) spends less than 1 percent of its budget on direct assistance to lung patients. It devotes growing resources, however, to politics; its annual reports are filled with references to its lobbying activities at the federal, state, and local levels of government."

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daWraith

Sep-15-13 10:43 AM

How many jobs do YOU provide, cowtransplant??

YOU didn't built THAT! Or anything!

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