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GOP: Defund Obamacare To Dodge Default, Shutdown

September 19, 2013

WASHINGTON (AP) — House Republicans vowed Wednesday to pass legislation that would prevent a partial government shutdown and avoid a historic national default while simultaneously canceling out......

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daWraith

Sep-19-13 5:57 AM

AP: A more likely outcome would be that the House would vote to pass a funding bill stripped of the health care provision and send it to Obama to avert a shutdown. Top GOP leaders in the House and Senate made it clear they have no appetite for a shutdown showdown.

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daWraith

Sep-19-13 5:59 AM

"Obama went on to suggest that "the average person" mistakenly thinks that raising the debt ceiling means the U.S. is racking up more debt:

"It's always a tough vote because the average person thinks raising the debt ceiling must mean that we're running up our debt, so people don't like to vote on it, and, typically, there's some gamesmanship in terms of making the President's party shoulder the burden of raising the -- taking the vote."

But, isn't the fact that the U.S. has hit its debt ceiling "over a hundred times" - and, thus, has had to keep raising it - proof that raising the limit does, in fact, lead to increased debt?

Trust me: the checks in the mail, I gave at the office, and (censored)!

Insanity is repeating the same behavior and expecting a different result!

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TrollSlayer

Sep-19-13 6:07 AM

Only a Democrit could somehow think the People are stupid enough to believe Obama's lie that raising the national debt ceiling won't result in more national debt.

Your Debtor in Chief is spending our children into unfathomable debt. To pay off cronies and buy votes. Despicable, Democrits.

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wvhoopie

Sep-19-13 6:18 AM

This would be the first time in 237 years that Congress tries to muscle a Pres. Over legislation that Congress itself passed. This will fail terribly as Boehner himself said earlier this year. There are quite a few republicans who are on record saying this absolute lunacy. Americans are quite aware of what is going on here and why. If this stunt goes forward we will see the largest pick up for the Dems in the House in history! Go for it lunatics! What fools! LOL!

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Ragnar

Sep-19-13 6:19 AM

Didn't we hear some of the same BS when Slick Willie was doing the dirty in the Oval Office with young interns?

"Clinton left a surplus and Bush spent it!"

Clinton somehow ran surpluses that added $3 trillion to the national debt.

I realize that Democrats lack basic math skills and any sense of logic but spending more and adding more debt does not equal a surplus.

This current crop of GOP RINO cowards are more interested in "compromise" than in doing what is right for the American people.

Both parties have "compromised" their way to unprecedented debt levels and to $75 trillion in unfunded liabilities. We will never be able to pay these things off and there is nowhere to turn for a bailout.

It is time to start cutting spending at the federal level and dumping more programs back to the state level, where they belong (education, 95% of transportation, health care, etc.)

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TrollSlayer

Sep-19-13 6:41 AM

I thought Obamacare was supposed to fund itself. Obamacare “Won’t add one dime to the deficit” Obama told us. So if it won’t add to the deficit, why does Congress even need to fund it?

Apparently that was just another Obamalie. Defund and stop this train wreck, Congress.

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wvhoopie

Sep-19-13 7:15 AM

The ACA is passed, the Supreme Court rules it constitutional, the Pres wins a national election with the ACA as his center piece just 10 months ago. Boehner said this would be foolish in a spring interview but since he cannot control his caucus he's doing it anyway. I love watching the implosion of the republican party! Go for it loons! Blame anyone you want. Since this will be the first time in 237 years that this type of action was employed, the reps will wear this around their neck for decades! LOL

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TrollSlayer

Sep-19-13 7:40 AM

hoopie, are you saying this will be the first time that Obama hasn’t passed a budget? Seriously? LOL

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TrollSlayer

Sep-19-13 7:47 AM

On raising the debt ceiling, Barry Bankrupter, on the campaign trail, said this in June 2008 “The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents – #43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. That’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic.”

So now Barry Bankrupter, who added EVEN MORE debt in only 4 years than Bush added in 8, wants to add EVEN MORE DEBT? That’s irresponsible, Barry. It’s unpatriotic, Barry. Unless it's YOUR debt limit, eh Barry? Pathetic.

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anutterview

Sep-19-13 8:14 AM

hoopie: Why has Obama granted an exemption to congressional aids and other such government workers that would have been affected by the ACA?

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anutterview

Sep-19-13 8:15 AM

Hoopie: Why has Obama granted exceptions from the ACA to major corporations that have contributed to Democratic campaigns?

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anutterview

Sep-19-13 8:16 AM

Hoopie: Why have major trade unions come out opposed to the ACA?

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anutterview

Sep-19-13 8:17 AM

Hoopie: Why has Obama decided to postpone enactment of some parts of the ACA without congressional approval?

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anutterview

Sep-19-13 8:18 AM

Hoopie: Why do you continue to worship the "dictator" of the ACA?

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anutterview

Sep-19-13 8:21 AM

Hoopie: Yeah, I know "but Bush" outsmarted the Democrats at every turn, making them vote for actions that were not supported by their Democratic base.

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anutterview

Sep-19-13 8:38 AM

Hoopie, Hoopie, Wo bist du?

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ShempH

Sep-19-13 9:08 AM

Defunding ACA is what the majority of American's want, and that is exactly what should be done. All polls, PEW, Gallup, USA Today not to mention hundreds of local City Polls range from 53 -68 percent for defunding.

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littlefox

Sep-19-13 9:38 AM

Gosh, why are we even talking about Obamacare while Syria is on fire? Obama had better have a fainting spell, draw another red line, or try something new that might bury this pesky opposition in the media black hole next to his NSA civil rights violations, IRS persecution, national debt, unemployment, food stamps, poverty, the four Americans who died in Benghazi, dead border agent Brian Terry, and his laughable promise of "Hope."

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Thebudman

Sep-19-13 9:58 AM

We can only hope that the Congress can show a little backbone for once and defund it.

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thetruthforonce

Sep-19-13 10:58 AM

The tea baggers are a joke. Even bagger in chief, Teddy Cruz, the Canadian who aspires to be President, says he's afraid Obamacare will pass because Americans will get too used to the "entitlements" of it and then it will never be repealed. In other words, we'll like it too much! Sounds like Social Security to me. Who hates that now except the tea baggers? The truth is they're scared to death it will come into existence. When that happens, and it will, the tea baggers and its lacky Republican Party, including our local lacky, McKinley, are histoire.

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anutterview

Sep-19-13 11:12 AM

Hoopie: That's OK; Tune in to MSMBC, CNN, ABC, or CBS at noon; Obama's "trainers" should have new talking points so his media parrots can prop up his smoke screen to fool the minions that still believe.

Hoopie: You always have the inside track on Democratic politics, who is Obama counting on to bail him out of his ACA mess? Warren Buffet, the State Welfare Programs, the AFL/CIO, General Motors, Detroit, or maybe Putin?

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anutterview

Sep-19-13 11:17 AM

YouCantHandleTheTruth: At some point all of the "free" give-away social programs become unfundable.

Like any Ponzi scheme, those first in will benefit from the scheme, but as contributors become receivers there are insufficient funds to support the pyramid.

The Tea Party, which you so condescendingly call "teabaggers" see the writing on the wall and are trying to educate the receivers, to let them know that the money will run out. Then What?

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TrollSlayer

Sep-19-13 11:35 AM

thetruthforonce “Sounds like Social Security to me.”

Finally the truth for once. Obamacare sounds like a ponzi scam soon and certain to fail and bury our children in TRILLIONS in unfunded entitlement debt? Yes, truthless. Yes it does.

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dyingov

Sep-19-13 11:40 AM

truthfor, Of course the takers will like a program that uses other peeps money to buy a service! The best part is the goberment is borrowing the money to buy the service. Try that at home......

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acousticportal

Sep-19-13 11:45 AM

Ok...fine...all of us who have insurance and pay our bills will just keep on paying for those who use the emergency room for their primary care physician. Sounds good. Always count on the GOP.

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