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McKinley Behind GOP On Debt Limit

Congressman says delay of Obamacare must be tied to plan

September 25, 2013

NEW CUMBERLAND — If House Republicans are to vote to raise the nation’s debt limit, they will be looking for something in return, Rep....

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TrollSlayer

Sep-27-13 11:43 AM

oldman, they're your Choomer in Chief's numbers. Complain to him if you don't like them. LOL

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TrollSlayer

Sep-27-13 11:42 AM

Ohiodem, the Democrit Massachusetts Congress made major changes to Romney’s plan, including establishing the mandate. Romney vetoed eight sections of the plan the Democrit Massachusetts Congress passed, and that Democrit Congress overrode all eight vetos. The Massachusetts health care plan is NOT Romneycare, no matter how much you loony leftists wish is was.

Ohiodem “Obamacare was passed, signed and reveiwed by SCOTUS. It's the law and it ain't going away.”

That’s what your Democrit friends said about once-legal slavery and Democrit Chief Justice of the SCOTUS Roger Taney said about the SCOTUS Dred Scott decision to keep slavery legal. You’re a dinosaur, dem. LOL

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Ohiodem

Sep-26-13 9:40 PM

Trool, Romneycare was proposed by the Republican Heritage Foundation 20 years ago as the alternative to Hillarycare. Mitt Romney passed it and signed it into law while governor. Yes there is the mandate for individuals and employers to get Romneycare or face a penalty. YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH. From what I hear Romneycare is popular in Mass. Obamacare was passed, signed and reveiwed by SCOTUS. It's the law and it ain't going away. The only way is if you get another Republican president and that ain't going to happen.

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Ohiodem

Sep-26-13 9:27 PM

Trool, Romneycare does have the employer and individual mandate. Romneycare also has a tax penalty if you don't buy insurance. You should do some fact checking instead of parroting Rush the Drugie. Obamacare is here to stay get over it.

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atoddh

Sep-26-13 7:57 PM

troll and others: Get real. WV is the third poorest state in the US and on the way down. Most residents benefit from the current and proposed social and medical programs. Accordingly our Congressional delegation should support these; not obstruct them. Right Wing wealth concentration policies are not appropriate for West Virginia. We are- and will be- a welfare state: wards of more prosperous ones where the young people of WV have gone for opportunity.

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oldmansvan

Sep-26-13 7:42 PM

Troll, you always prove you can't handle the truth. Send your phony numbers to faux nooz. That's the kink of garbage they live on.

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icecream

Sep-26-13 6:55 PM

Congress will have the same health care as the rest of us. Finally!

In 2014, Americans will have access to the same health care choices as Members of Congress. Individuals will be able to purchase insurance through Affordable Insurance Exchanges (competitive marketplaces where people will be able to compare plans and make the choices best for them). Members of Congress will also get their coverage through the exchanges.

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icecream

Sep-26-13 6:53 PM

To all: the Law.

SEC. 1312 [42 U.S.C. 18032]. CONSUMER CHOICE.

(D) MEMBERS OF CONGRESS IN THE EXCHANGE.—?(i) REQUIREMENT.—Notwithstanding any other provision of law, after the effective date of this sub- title, the only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and congressional staff with respect to their service as a Member of Congress or congressional staff shall be health plans that are—

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icecream

Sep-26-13 5:34 PM

To all:

Natalie Tennant for the U.S. Senate race in West Virginia.

Is that why Congress is fighting Obamacare? Because congress comes under Obamacare....

The Affordable Care Act initially required most Capitol Hill employees to give up their federal health insurance by the end of this year and participate in the Obamacare state health exchanges - a central aspect of the health care overhaul.

But a recent administrative rule issued by the Office of Personnel and Management - Congress's Human Resources Department - gives all members of Congress and their staffs a 75 percent across-the-board health exchange subsidy.

That's much more than what's offered to everyone else. [Florida Watchdog****, 9/16/13]

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TrollSlayer

Sep-26-13 2:12 PM

Now, Ohiodem, re-spew your slam-dunked debunked talking point lies about how “Obamacare was created by the Republican Heritage Foundation as the alternative to Hillarycare” and “Mitt Romney passed signed it into law when governor.” Since that's all you got. Besides "retards" I mean. LOL

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TrollSlayer

Sep-26-13 2:09 PM

Ohiodem “The same was said about SS and Medicare.”

You mean bankrupt SS and soon to be bankrupt Medicare? Apparently you Dems never learn your lesson when it comes to Ponzi scams...

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TrollSlayer

Sep-26-13 2:07 PM

Ohiodem “You know what scares the bejesus out of you Retards?”

People who use despicable epithets like “retard” who also have the same right to vote as I do? And who may actually be raising children to use those same despicable epithets? Yep.

Ohiodem “"I LIKE MANDATES". Maybe he meant man dates?”

Dem, you’ll need to ask your Man Dater in Chief about that. I understand he and Rahm Emanuel were into that scene before Michelle put him on a short leash. LOL

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TrollSlayer

Sep-26-13 2:07 PM

Ohiodem “You can't say we passed the budget except for funding Obamacare...”

But in fact, yes, the Republican-controlled House did. Now when the Democrit-controlled Senate leader Harry Reid refuses to bring that REPUBLICAN HOUSE PASSED BUDGET up for a vote, the resulting Government shutdown is on YOUR party, Dems. Own it.

Ohiodem “Obamacare is the law it was passed by congress, signed by the president and upheld by the SCOTUS.”

But in fact, funding for it was NOT passed. And in fact, passed laws can be repealed, and have been many times. Deal with it. LOL

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Ohiodem

Sep-26-13 1:32 PM

tool, Mitt Romney quote "I LIKE MANDATES". Maybe he meant man dates? If the government shuts down it's the Republicans fault and every sane person knows it. That would be like the Democrats saying we passed the budget except we aren't funding the military.

You can't say we passed the budget except for funding Obamacare, that is stupid. Obamacare is the law it was passed by congress, signed by the president and upheld by the SCOTUS. It was also a major issue in the presidential campaign and Romney had his ass kicked. You know what scares the bejesus out of you Retards? People will find out about the Repulicans were lying and will like it. The same was said about SS and Medicare.

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TrollSlayer

Sep-26-13 11:28 AM

oldman, Obama “cut spending in half”? Wrong, as usual. LOL

Obama’s OWN numbers, from

w ww.whitehouse.g ov/omb/budget/historicals:

Outlays in FY 2009 (last Bush budget) $3.5 trillion.

Outlays in FY 2013 (5th year of Obama, projected) $3.7 trillion.

So Obama has INCREASED spending, according to HIS OWN White House dot gov website. Don’t let the facts get in the way of your Obama-worship, though. LOL

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oldmansvan

Sep-26-13 8:56 AM

smart 1, OBAMA has cut spending in half from the 1.3 Trillion left to him in the Bush 2009 fiscal year. I HOPE you can see that as a pretty good CHANGE. if you can't you need to quit watching faux nooz and get informed.

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SMART1

Sep-25-13 10:24 PM

Real Glad WV is represented in DC by David & Shelley!!!!!!If we had more Obama Hope &Changers, Look how bad off we would be!!!!!!

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Ragnar

Sep-25-13 10:05 PM

It is true that corporate welfare amounts to roughly $100 billion per year. Both political parties love corporate welfare, because corporations create jobs (for which politicians take credit) and donate campaign contributions.

In 2012, Exxon Mobil, Chevron, Apple, Wells Fargo, Wal-Mart, ConocoPhillips, JP Morgan, Berkshire Hathaway, IBM and Microsoft paid a combined total of $116 billion in income taxes. This does not include sales, property and excise taxes, nor does it include payroll taxes. It also does not include the millions of good paying jobs these 10 have created nor does it count tens of billions per year in dividends or billions in charitable contributions.

Meanwhile, tens of millions of working age Americans pay NOTHING in income taxes, while the bottom 50% of wage earners contribute just 3% of the total federal income tax take.

I don't like corporate welfare but at least we get something for that money.

How about housing project dwellers?

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WVEXPAT

Sep-25-13 9:12 PM

Hoopie,

I'd like to see your source for corporate welfare being 5x social programs. I don't think it exists!!! They number is more likely in the $100 billion range (search CATO “Corporate Welfare in the Federal Budget study). The current admin is essentially handing Wall St $85 billion/month via QE. Get off your stale talking points and face it, ALL our politicians live off the money/favors they grant corporations, UNIONS and other special interest groups! This is not a GOP thing is a Washington DC thing!! Why else has the DC area become the wealthiest in the nation!! WTFU

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TrollSlayer

Sep-25-13 7:20 PM

atoddh “WV has been the target of extreme, raw right wing capitalism since its inception.”

Those who work for a living would call that “extreme raw right wing capitalism” employment. But as a member of the bourgeoisie I can see how you would see it differently. LOL

atoddh “The minerals and timber have been-are being- raped.”

You mean the minerals and timber that belong to the PROPERTY OWNERS who CHOSE to sell them? And who in the process employed millions of West Virginians in harvesting and selling them? Again, your petticoat is showing. LOL

atoddh “The banks have taken WV deposits and lent them elsewhere.”

...and are paying interest to the WV depositors. And other banks are lending here. Do you think banks should be limited to state lines? Do you think WV is a lender state? Seriously? LOL

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TrollSlayer

Sep-25-13 7:15 PM

atoddh “It is somewhat ironic he is now opposing government spending which has made his business possible and prosper.”

When Government takes over those functions – education, housing, health care, etc. – private business gets pushed out. If Government hadn’t taken over the school systems, private businesses would be doing those functions – better – and McKinley would STILL have been in business building schools for them.

That’s what you loons just don’t get. The world would go on without Big Government. Better. And the People would get the goods and services THEY chose – with their pocketbooks – not the goods and services some Big Government bureaucrat decided was best for them.

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atoddh

Sep-25-13 7:06 PM

troll: WV has been the target of extreme, raw right wing capitalism since its inception. The minerals and timber have been-are being- raped. The banks have taken WV deposits and lent them elsewhere.

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atoddh

Sep-25-13 7:02 PM

troll: Understand it is super David saw and pursued a niche doing public projects. He has kept the work and fees in Wheeling vs having them go out of town. This would have occurred had he not been there. He could have gone anywhere with his BSCE degree from a top school. It is somewhat ironic he is now opposing government spending which has made his business possible and prosper.

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TrollSlayer

Sep-25-13 7:01 PM

wvhoopie "Corporations get five times the pork from gov't than the people blah blah oil companies blah blah subsidies blah blah blah"

More class warfare crap from the hoopie. yawn... hoopie, do you have a clue what the difference is between a deduction and a subsidy? Didn't think so. LOL

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TrollSlayer

Sep-25-13 6:59 PM

atoddh, since you had everything you ever wanted given to you on a silver platter, I can understand your view that simply giving people what they need is helping them. But in the real world, where money is not unlimited, that’s not the case. Over the last half century, by supplying West Virginians with all the pork they needed or wanted, the liberal Democrit Government established a culture of dependence ON Government. Which, not coincidentally, has established a base of grateful, entitlement-dependent liberal Democrit voters. And it’s driven America $17 TRILLION dollars into debt, and to the brink of default and bankruptcy. But no Ponzi scammer thinks about the exit strategy while the money and the power is rolling in.

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