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White House pushing the positives of mandate

September 25, 2013

WASHINGTON — With new health insurance markets launching next week, the Obama administration is unveiling premiums and plan choices for 36 states where the federal government is taking the lead to......

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Sep-25-13 11:02 PM

@lizardlips. Sounds like you are the freaking whiner. Obozo is driving insurance out of sight, and I guess you don't give a rattsazz. If you don't have insurance start looking for a job that has insurance. There are some out there. Rates are absolutely out of sight for his insurance.Also if you can't find a job with insurance, go out and get two jobs, I know many people who are doing it. Sounds like to me that you are the "Top Whiner!"

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Sep-25-13 10:03 PM

Why should ANYBODY be forced to pay $330 dollars a month for something they NEVER need and NEVER use??

This is only an effort to create MORE deadbeat welfare queens and impose slavery on the workers to fund it!!!!

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Sep-25-13 9:36 PM

Marriage Tax contd;

"Here’s what would happen if they make that choice:

Instead of facing an exorbitant premium increase once their combined earnings hits $62,041 if they were to stay married, each cohabiting adult can earn up to $45,960 before Obamacare’s “tax credit”-free premiums kick in. Their annual after-tax savings at age 60 if they shack up and keep their individual earnings between $31,021 and $45,960 will range from $7,650 to over $11,000. The annual savings will slightly increase every year until Medicare kicks in at age 65. That kind of money can buy a lot of gifts for the grandkids. "

daFACTS are in, the Science is Settled: OBAMACARE IS DIASASTER!!



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Sep-25-13 9:35 PM

The MARRIAGE TAX:"If a married couple have identical earnings totaling $65,000, which will usually net down to $50,000 or below after all income and payroll taxes, their Obamacare exchange Silver Plan premium next year with the same earnings will be $16,382, or about one-third of what used to be their take-home pay. (And they call it the “Affordable Care Act”?)

What can this couple do? Well, they could decide to earn a few thousand dollars less, which will negate the five-figure premium hit. Encouraging ordinarily willing workers to put in less effort isn’t good in any economy, but especially not this one. But if either spouse’s earnings are unpredictable or hard to precisely track, they could still “mess up” and get socked with a premium they can’t afford.

The “easiest” solution would be to avoid the “wedding tax” entirely by getting divorced while still living together. Here’s what would happen if they make that choice:

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Sep-25-13 9:30 PM

— In Nashville, 105 insurance plans offered today will not be available in the exchange.

Said the Republican senator, “Why should a 27-year-old male in Memphis be forced to pay nearly three times more than what he pays today for health insurance? Why should a young woman in Nashville have to pay twice as much? This isn't what President Obama promised Tennesseans, but it's what he's giving them — higher costs and less choice — that are two of the most urgent reasons Obamacare must be repealed and our health care system fixed."

daFACTS are coming in: Obamacare is an effing JOKE!!!

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Sep-25-13 9:29 PM

We know this because at the same time the White House was releasing its broad study, Tennessee Sen. Lamar Alexander released his analysis of the report's portion on his state. He found that Obamacare will cost far more than what many of his constituents are paying today, some by as much as 190 percent.

— Today, a 27-year-old man in Memphis can buy a plan for as low as $41 a month. On the exchange, the lowest state average is $119 a month — a 190 percent increase.

— Today, a 27-year-old woman in Nashville can also buy a plan for as low as $58 a month. On the exchange, the lowest-priced plan in Nashville is $114 a month — a 97 percent increase. Even with a tax subsidy, that plan is $104 a month, almost twice what she could pay today.

— Today, women in Nashville can choose from 30 insurance plans that cost less than the administration says insurance plans on the exchange will cost, even with the new tax subsidy.


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Sep-25-13 9:27 PM


"Andy and Amy Mangione of Louisville, Kentucky say their health insurance nearly tripled overnight from $333 a month to $965 due to Obamacare.

"When I saw the letter when I came home from work, it said 'your action required, benefit changes, act now.' Of course, I opened it immediately," said Andy Mangione.

Andy Mangione told Fox News veteran reporter Jim Angle that nothing had changed about the health of his wife, himself, or their two boys.

"This is a high deductible plan where I'm assuming a lot of risk for my health insurance for my family," Mangione told Fox News. "And nothing has changed, our boys are healthy—they're young—my wife is healthy. I'm healthy, nothing in our medical history has changed to warrant a tripling of our premiums."

The Mangiones's insurance company, Humana, declined to comment."

Thanks Opie!

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Sep-25-13 7:00 PM

ohiodem, I was a voting Democrat from 1968 to 2010. Why did I switch? I saw that my Party of choice was wrong. Don't let Party Agendas guide you, open your eyes, be compromising to some degree. I wouldn't be that opposed to the ACA if what we were told four plus years ago about it was true. Virtually everything from day one has been a lie, cost, taxes, Doctors, Plan, implementation, exemptions.

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Sep-25-13 6:32 PM

But the Koolade drinker are fat dumb and happy in their ignorance of hear no evil, speak no evil, see no evil.

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Sep-25-13 6:31 PM

Congressional Budget Office (CBO) officials project the Affordable Care Act (ACA) will cost American taxpayers double what the Obama administration had projected. Health care spending will double from $838 billion in 2012 to $1.837 trillion a year in 2022.

Simply stated, that means that the cost of government health care will pass discretionary spending in 2016,

The CBO estimates that 11-12 million uninsured Americans will be subjected to the mandate; the agency expects more than half of them to pay the fine instead of buying insurance. But wait, there’s more: “as more people pay the ‘tax penalty’ instead of buying insurance, premiums for everyone else will go up, potentially triggering a death spiral in the private insurance market,” Forbes said in response to the CBO report.

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Sep-25-13 6:30 PM

When the Democrats were pushing Obamacare, they kept telling the nation that it would only cost about $900 billion over the next ten years but is that true?

They discovered that the shortfall between all of the new Obamacare tax revenue and spending is approximately $17 trillion dollars. This is five times the current federal annual budget and over three times the amount that the Obama administration has already borrowed in just three years.

When the GOP staffers extended the shortfall out over the next 75 years, it totaled up to a whopping $82 trillion.

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Sep-25-13 6:26 PM

Ohiodumass, when Obama took office the debt was $10.6 Trillion. Today it i0s $16.95 TRILLION which is WHY the limit of $17 trillion needs to be raised.

Do the math, you retard: $6.3 TRILLION increase under Obama, more than any President in Hisotry and MORE THAN the COMBINED total from the last 42 presidents.

That is more money spent than government in the history of the world, all on Obama's watch.

By the time he leaves office it will exceeded the total COMBINED amount spent by every president from George Washington to George W. Bush. COMBINED!!!!!!

The Bush 2007 Deficit of $161 billion has been exceeded in several different MONTHS in the Obama Disaster Administration.

He DOUBLED the number of people on food stamps.

By ANY metric, the Obama Administration is a complete friggen DISASTER.

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Sep-25-13 6:08 PM

Lizard “If you think the premiums are expensive, try getting sick or injured with NO insurance. Go ahead,see what happens. Go ahead. Seriously. Waaa waaaaa waaaaaahhh! You better pay for my insurance! Waaaaaaaahhh!”

Talk about crybaby. Just buy your own insurance and stop whining. And don’t expect me and my kids to pay for it, crybaby.

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Sep-25-13 5:33 PM

If you think the premiums are expensive, try getting sick or injured with NO insurance. Go ahead,see what happens.

We have been reduced to a nation of crybabies. We used to be made of sterner stuff. Now, most folks can't do without their daily glass of whine.

That's in the evening. In the morning, apparently most folks are still enjoying their daily bowl of stupid.

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Sep-25-13 2:15 PM

Ohiodem, let us know how those exchanges work out in six days. Because we're hearing there will be a delay in implementation. What a surprise...

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Sep-25-13 2:14 PM

Oh dear. Another loon suffereing from Bush Derangement Syndrome. See what you started, daWraith? The inmates are in an uproar. Medic, we need straight jackets, stat!

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Sep-25-13 1:46 PM

duh rat, You moron GWB left office with a deficit of over 1 1/2 TRILLION DOLLARS, WE WERE LOSING 800,000 JOBS PER MONTH. GWB did everything but s--- on the Oval Office floor before he slithered out of DC. He brought democracy to Iraq! That is a joke, right? He led 4000 Americans and 100000 Iraqi civilians to their death. All he accomplished was building Iran up in the region.

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Sep-25-13 1:36 PM

The stupid here is just unbelievable. People complaining about co-pays? Those people now have no health coverage, a co-pay is preferable to going bankrupt from medical bills. If you get insurance from you employer or medicare you keep it. The only thing that changes is now if you don't have health insurance you can sign up for Obamacare. If you do already have insurance they can't drop you when you get sick, insurance companies have to spend 80% of their premiums on actual health care instead of bloated CEO salaries. Oh you say you can't see the doctor you chose, well I have to stay in network already and besides that the people on Obamacare have no doctor period now.

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Sep-25-13 11:11 AM

Let me be a little more clear. That is max. yearly out of pocket costs.

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Sep-25-13 11:10 AM

So we consider the premiums "less" because someone (tax payer) else is paying them! I would guess that my mortgage payment would be "less" if my fellow tax payers were chipping-in!

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Sep-25-13 11:09 AM

Has any one read what the out of pocket costs are for a family of four with the Bronze Plan?......$12,700 plus the co-pays. Does any person reading this paper have a plan with O O P costs that high? Mine is only $4,200. These low monthly premiums are clearly a 'teaser' rate, just like the home mortgage rates were.

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Sep-25-13 11:08 AM

Yeah,Clueless just didn't know how to handle the sub 5% unemployment with more Americans employed than any time in history and deficit of $162 Billion a YEAR under W. instead of $162 BILLION PER MONTH, successfully Freeing 65 million Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan instead of make new SLAVES out Egyptians and Libyans, etc, etc,

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Sep-25-13 10:42 AM

Just how long will it take for Americans to wake up and find out how much we have been bitten by this regime? All they can think of is to give to those who do nothing or very, very little. This country was founded on every one doing their share. Look at where we are now.

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Sep-25-13 9:44 AM

wvhoopie "We won't have to speculate much longer with the exchanges opening next week."

And we're looking forward to reading all the posts about how well that goes. It should be interesting...

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Sep-25-13 9:06 AM

daWraith, try not to mention W. It only agitates Clueless. See how you made his shift key stick?

Calm down, Clueless. We won’t talk about the big bad W monster again. mmm mmm mmm, hope and change, mmm mmm mmm, hope and change...

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