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Kill Alternative Energy Law

October 4, 2013

How would you feel if every month, you received a notice from the state ordering you to make a contribution, perhaps several dollars, to a wind farm or solar energy installation? Most people......

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oldsteelmaker

Oct-05-13 8:25 PM

So who do you want to believe, some paid gang of academics or the guy who actually tried to do it?

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oldsteelmaker

Oct-05-13 8:24 PM

google Beacon Power. A fraternity brother was the principal engineer for them, and wrote all of their patents. They went broke, and the current owners are politically connected trying to cash in on people like you.

They failed because they were supplying Solyndra and a bunch of the other fraud green companies. He's wiped out, because they didn't set up as a cheat. He has found other uses for the technology, but will never do a green project again. In his words, they have to be either subsidized heavily or a scam, because they can't make power nearly as well as the current methods, and that will not change.

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oldsteelmaker

Oct-05-13 8:16 PM

Clean Fibs, So you like killing eagles?

And you cite a study by a group that gets their funding from green groups that says they are right? Wow. Obviously I have been truly wrongheaded in all this. The minor fact that every study that compares total costs, including maintenance, installation, environmental damage and associated work shows that green energy is a huge loser must be lies. The fact that I do all this for a living, and have personal knowledge of just how much it takes to make green energy, means I must be lying to myself.

Before you call me a paid tool, one point. I was doing green when Carter was messing things up. I even supply steel to make wind towers. I would love to see these things work.

They don't. If they have to run with the same market rules (no subsidies), the green systems fail big.

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CleanEnergyFacts

Oct-05-13 6:52 AM

A majority of Ohioans supports a more ambitious 20 percent renewable energy standard - even if it cost the average household an extra $100 per year. That's according to a recent survey by researchers at Yale University.

The Beacon Hill Institute is not a credible source. Its research on state renewable energy policies is funded in part by fossil fuel interests, such as the Koch brothers.

Another recent study by The Center for Resilience at The Ohio State University found Ohio's clean energy standards have delivered net savings to Ohio consumers, and supported thousands of jobs.

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Wheeldog

Oct-04-13 11:07 PM

"We don't care about little things like the laws of science, or economic realities," oldsteel.

Unfortunately, you speak more truth than you may realize. The laws of cause and effect and thermodynamics have never been repealed and inevitably prevail. History is replete with the rise and inevitable fall of civilizations, societies and empires. Ours is not exempt.

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oldsteelmaker

Oct-04-13 1:58 PM

There is the interesting question that by 2025 there may not BE enough alternative energy available to fulfill the requirement, but hey, what the heck, we're politicians. We don't care about little things like the laws of science, or economic realities, we just put words on pieces of paper, and bango, a new requirement for the rest of you to live with. Ain't we wonderful???

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LogHog

Oct-04-13 5:31 AM

There you go Intell. Writing something with common sense. In our current state of affairs, there isn't much room for common sense coming from our Govt. From the Fed. down to the State and local, fewer and fewer people have any common sense. Thanks for having some.

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