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Excess Levy To Fund Salaries

Hancock County Voters Head To The Polls Nov.9

October 27, 2013

NEW CUMBERLAND— Of everything the Hancock County Schools excess levy pays for, salaries and benefits represent the biggest slice of the pie. The five-year levy, which is up for renewal Nov....

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wvhoopie2

Oct-28-13 3:13 PM

BOE jobs are given out if you know someone and so you could say they are a political job. Everyone wants a raise and a levy to pay for it. Look at Marshall County they had excess in funds. They fail to give back to the taxpayer but instead use the money for other things. All level of government have no idea how to live within a budget just spend, spend and spend.

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TheCentrist

Oct-28-13 9:19 AM

Ragnar says: "Assuming an entry level teacher in Hancock County earns $38,141 in their first year, and assuming a 200-day work year x 9 working hours per day, this equates to $21.19 per hour, not including benefits. Of course, teachers don't work 200 days or 9 hours per day. They actually work less than this."

There you go making an ass out of yourself by assuming. Some states like Ohio & Pennsylvania are not as transparent when it comes to salaries, so it is going to be difficult to compare. However, here is WV's by district: wvde.state.wv.us/finance/files/Data/2012-13/Salary%20Schedules/Professional%20Salary%20Schedules%20by%20County%2013.pdf

The starting salary for a teacher with 0 years of experience and a bachelor's degree is $33273 (check the column all the way on the right).

How many teachers do you know & follow around regularly, Ragnar? You are uninformed and need to stop posting about topics of which you know little to nothing.

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Ragnar

Oct-27-13 5:17 PM

In 2011-2012, a Hancock County teacher with a bachelor's degree and ZERO years experience earned a base salary of $29,315 and a "state equity" of $2,360.

There is also a "1984 Co Supplement" of $2,508 and "County Supplement" of $3,958.

The school from which I graduated in PA starts teachers off at about $28,000. So I don't see the huge disparity.

Assuming an entry level teacher in Hancock County earns $38,141 in their first year, and assuming a 200-day work year x 9 working hours per day, this equates to $21.19 per hour, not including benefits. Of course, teachers don't work 200 days or 9 hours per day. They actually work less than this.

How many Hancock County residents would love to have this wage, benefits and work schedule?

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UNCOMMONSENSE

Oct-27-13 3:24 PM

Typical government model!!

Rediculous salaries that get raises for doing nothing!!

This is CLEARLY tyrannical government out of control!!

There needs to be at LEAST a 50% reduction in force!!!!

It you are not DIRECTLY related to teaching a child YOU ARE A LIABILITY!

If you are in teaching for the MONEY then you aren't much of a teacher to start with!!!

But the REAL problem is administration that is FOUR layers deep!!!

MILLIONS in payroll for people who do NOTHING to educate the child!!!!

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TheCentrist

Oct-27-13 2:30 PM

There is a guy that lives just down the street from me that used to teach in Ohio County (WV), but left to teach in Washington County (PA). The difference in pay is extreme & he didn't need to move to do it.

Similar situation with police officers, the number that have left for the coal mines because pay is better is bordering on the absurd. Which begs the question: are police in the area of any quality anymore?

Don't think that there aren't better paying jobs out there than for people to flee to from the education field. My spouse is definitely consider leaving the field for an easier & more lucrative job (albeit one with less significance in the grand scheme of things) in the private sector.

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Ragnar

Oct-27-13 2:12 PM

Does any sane person really believe that teaching jobs are so plentiful in other states that WV teachers will just leave?

I can tell you that teaching jobs in Pennsylvania are almost impossible to get, even in less than desirable districts. You have to know someone on the school board and be willing to sub for years before you can get a job.

In Burgettstown, just across the border from Weirton/New Cumberland, a teacher with a bachelor's degree and 6 years' experience in the district earns just over $34,000 per year.

Don't forget that property taxes are much higher in PA, as well.

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TheCentrist

Oct-27-13 1:12 PM

This isn't a pay increase. It is just a renewal. Not renewing this levy would have a devastating effect on families that work in that school system and it would further weaken the economy of Hancock county.

Employees that have been receiving a county supplement of a few thousand dollars for decades and budget based on that fixed income might not be able to pay their mortgage, rent, car payments, utilities, etc. Let alone pay for the occasional dinner out with the family.

And for what? So everyone in Hancock county can pocket and extra 40 bucks each year? You guys are wackjobs to attack educators, you clearly do not have an interest in bettering the Ohio Valley or WV, you're greedy and myopic, and you clearly don't understand economics. I would love to know what some of the other posters on here do for a living & how much they make.

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richardwhee

Oct-27-13 11:53 AM

Well! I guess the teachers union is doing their job. They keep demanding and getting more money and graduating less knowing students every year. Just mention "KIDS" and everyone junps to furnish more money. Trouble is- The results don't show any improvement.

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wvhoopie2

Oct-27-13 11:09 AM

The biggest problem with the BOE asking for more money is the fact this is a too top heavy organization and too many double dippers.

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wvhoopie2

Oct-27-13 11:07 AM

BOE want to compare wages in the other states but they forget to compare the wages of the taxpayers in WV. Between BOE and other city, county, and state government the taxpayer is running close to the poverty level. Check the math and then see if the taxpayer can afford the increase.

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dyingov

Oct-27-13 10:49 AM

So the argument is without the "extra" funds for salaries they will jump ship to Ohio or PA! She goes on to explain that Hancock is $2,000 higher than the WV average and the teachers would receive $15,000 to $20,000 more for taking a position in PA! I will tell you the $2,000 is not the reason they are staying in Hancock County!

BTW, the "original" intent of levies in WV was to supplement books,supplies, etc for educational purposes....."It's for the children" my arse!

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SpankysLastDance

Oct-27-13 9:44 AM

Will you leeches ever stop taking and taking and taking and taking?

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mikeyd

Oct-27-13 9:22 AM

more wasted money.but we need more.it's for the kids.don't you all think that you make enough money?go to PA if you can't make it here.

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Melvin

Oct-27-13 7:34 AM

I would vote for it when they permit you to award the increases on a merit basis.

Giving the same increase to stars and dead wood is beyond stupidity.

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REDNECK

Oct-27-13 7:03 AM

THE SCHOOL BOARD COULD SAVE 165,000$ BY ELIMINATING TRIPLE DIPPING RETIRED TEACHERS, AND HIRING NEWLY GRADUATED TEACHERS FROM WVA COLLEGES. THIS WOULD ALSO ALLOW THEM TO STAY IN WVA.

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REDNECK

Oct-27-13 7:03 AM

THE SCHOOL BOARD COULD SAVE 165,000$ BY ELIMINATING TRIPLE DIPPING RETIRED TEACHERS, AND HIRING NEWLY GRADUATED TEACHERS FROM WVA COLLEGES. THIS WOULD ALSO ALLOW THEM TO STAY IN WVA.

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