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Undo W.Va., Ohio Insurance Damage

November 16, 2013

No one can say with certainty what President Barack Obama’s apparent reversal concerning canceled health insurance policies means. In all likelihood, Obama and his aides don’t really know themselves....

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RockEReputation

Nov-17-13 12:01 PM

that OCT Kaiser Poll:

"A solid majority of the public (60 percent) say they oppose the idea of cutting off funding as a way to stop the law from being implemented, and a higher share would like to see Congress expand the law or keep it as is (47 percent) rather than repeal it (37 percent)"

"44 percent – don’t have enough information to understand the law’s impact"

**But that doesn't preclude them from venting their rage (RockE Footnote)

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WVEXPAT

Nov-17-13 9:02 AM

From Kaiser's October Poll;

ACA unfavorable - 44%

ACA Favorable - 38%

A lot has happened the last few weeks. The November poll should prove interesting!

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RockEReputation

Nov-17-13 8:29 AM

"From Kaiser"

Kaiser Family Foundation Poll

Keep Obamacare - 25% Expand Obamacare - 22% Repeal it - 24% Repeal/replace with a GOPeer option -13%

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daWraith

Nov-16-13 5:42 PM

Droopie, that 50 million figure come from urazz? About 30 million ILLEGALS will STILL have no insurance AFTER Obamacare is fully implemented.

Out of that 20 milllion, left about half were young people WHO COULD AFFORD insurance but CHOOSE not to PAY FOR IT!!

The real working poor and pre-existing conditions group was only about 7-10 million, which according to Obama "5% who lost their insurance so far is a pretty small group".

So, in the words of HHS secretary Sebelius "Whatever".

Or Hillary Clinton "What does it matter"???

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daWraith

Nov-16-13 5:39 PM

Yeah cowtransplant, the NR knows YOU are their target audience.

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caltransplant

Nov-16-13 2:06 PM

Another dumb-a&& editorial from the NR.

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WVEXPAT

Nov-16-13 10:56 AM

@hoopie,

Speaking of shifting costs. Union members are quick to criticize but always looking for a way to avoid paying their fair share!

From Kaiser, "Weeks after denying labor’s request to give union members access to health-law subsidies, the Obama administration is signaling it intends to exempt some union plans from one of the law’s substantial taxes. Buried in rules issued last week is the disclosure that the administration will propose exempting “certain self-insured, self-administered plans” from the law’s temporary reinsurance fee in 2015 and 2016. That’s a description that applies to many Taft-Hartley union plans acting as their own insurance company and claims processor, said Edward Fensholt, a senior vice president at Lockton Cos., a large insurance broker."

Union minions talk about the unfairness of "wealth" , just not their wealth!

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WVEXPAT

Nov-16-13 9:51 AM

"Over 50 million Americans had no health insurance"

You better up date your numbers!! Obama has added 5 million to the uninsured rolls over the last few weeks!!

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WVEXPAT

Nov-16-13 9:49 AM

@ hoopie,

"Over 50 million Americans had no health insurance"

If this number is accurate then why have only 100,000 signed up so far??

You'd think if their situation was so dire that even if they had to call, write or visit their local navigator that millions would have signed up already.

If the situation is so dire why do they only expect 7 million to sign up the first YEAR?

And if the situation is so dire why does the CBO estimate 25 million to sign up after 10 YEARS with 30 million STILL uninsured? (search "CBO's February 2013 Estimate of the Effects of the Affordable Care Act on Health Insurance Coverage")

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WVEXPAT

Nov-16-13 9:35 AM

Yes goosy private sector insurance companies exist just to deny you medical care.

From the AMA (search "AMA Metric 11 - Percentages of claim lines denied")

% of claims denied 2013;

Aetna - 1.5%

Anthem - 2.64%

Cigna - .54%

HCSC - 1.7%

Humana - 1.97%

Regence - 1.17%

UHC - 1.18%

MEDICARE - 4.92%

Yes, go w/ the GOVT option!!!!

Let us know how that works out.

Try again

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WVEXPAT

Nov-16-13 9:29 AM

"junk insurance" meaning if your 55 and have no children you must pay for someone else's pre-natal/maternity care and pediatric vision/dental care!

Or "junk insurance" meaning if your a sober, healthy 40 year old you must still pay for someone else's rehab!

"junk insurance" because govt is smarter than you! Just ask them! They'll get back to you right after they fix there internets webby thingy!

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wvhoopie

Nov-16-13 9:22 AM

It sure seems that most people forget what the ACA is trying to fix. Over 50 million Americans had no health insurance. Millions more had junk insurance. Millions used the e-room as a doctors office, the least effective place for care. Hundreds of thousands of Americans had to file bankruptcy b/c of their unpaid medical bills. People could not get insurance if they had a previous condition. People would be dropped when they had claims. Unpaid health care costs were shifted to those who could pay creating huge annual increase. Profits of insurance company's were going through the roof yet care for those covered dropped. The health care issues were out there for decades and no one would do anything to fix the problems that affects all of us. The republicans refused to do anything at all to fix this mess. This ACA has many problems but they can be fixed if those who can fix it quit playing politics. What is the answer from conservatives? Scrap the ACA and do what?

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mikeyd

Nov-16-13 8:43 AM

we have to have junk government leadership so why not junk insurance?

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TrollSlayer

Nov-16-13 7:30 AM

So if you want to babble “junk” insurance to describe what Barry Obamboozler described as insurance “you like,” and what Americans KNOW FITS THEIR INDIVIDUAL NEEDS, you can.

The alternative is for Goosebabblers to convince 30 MILLION young men they need to pay double their current premiums, and if their insurance doesn’t cover hysterectomies it’s “junk.”

Let us know how that works out. LOL

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dyingov

Nov-16-13 7:27 AM

110,000 peeps signed-up in the first month, the goberment is telling us that 7 million need to enroll for the program to be successful! Goosy and rockhead you recall your 3rd grade math lesson? Divide 7,000,000 by 110,000 (show your work) and you will know how many months it will take for the "magic" program to succeed!

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Gooseman

Nov-16-13 7:16 AM

If you want to keep your junk insurance, you can keep it.

Good luck telling the insurance company you want to keep your junk insurance when they cancel you after you get sick.

Let us know how that works out.

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RockEReputation

Nov-16-13 6:20 AM

So when the Senate shreds H.R.3350 and sends S.1642 back to the House will Boehner and all have their bluff called as they side with insurance companies against the people?

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