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Water Debate Flows South

Lawmakers hear from both sides on fracking water recycling plant

November 20, 2013

CHARLESTON — Ben Stout took his fight against the GreenHunter Water natural gas frack water recycling plant to Charleston on Tuesday, as he testified to the West Virginia Joint Legislative Oversight......

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joeknows

Nov-20-13 7:33 AM

Yes it is hazardous and shouldn't be around residential areas at all! make it illegal to have gas infrastructure within a mile of any residence. but stopping a recycling plant doesn't quite solve the frack waste problem for this region. If the recycling plant is stopped, it's more likely the frackhornet nest will hold a grudge/ dump the frackwater somewhere else, also not reuse their water. the companies cant be trusted and the hazardous waste is here today and going somewhere today. frackers have the upper hand because they hold money, permits, and the toxic waste. This is a lose/lose battle unless the root of the problem is addressed. who is drinking the tap water these days? clean water resources are gone in Wheeling now. But thank you for making it further known to all how we are in fact surrounded with hazardous waste. WV legislature failed in such a massive way with regulating this industry. Drastic changes now or it's too late.

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mikeyd

Nov-20-13 8:19 AM

mr.jack must have went into hiding with all of his promises.

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WVUGEO

Nov-20-13 8:19 AM

Again with the weasel phrase this newspaper has repeated many times when treating the issue: "radium, uranium and radon are considered radioactive, Jack said these elements will be minuscule in volume". They aren't "considered radioactive" by anyone. They ARE radioactive. And, they won't "be miniscule in volume". Multiple studies by the US Geologic Survey, the University of Pittsburgh as funded by the USDOE, and others, have shown that radium can be present in frack flowback from shale gas wells in amounts hundreds of times higher than allowed by law in industrial effluent and thousands of times higher than allowed by law in drinking water. Solid frack wastes have triggered radiation alarms at landfills many times in Ohio and Pennsylvania.

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idliketoknow

Nov-20-13 8:20 AM

"Make it illegal to have gas infrastructure within a mile of any residence."

That's a laughable statement. I suppose everyone will revert back to wood fire places for heat this winter?

"doesn't quite solve the frack waste problem for this region"

What problem would that be? There actually isn't one unless you're referring to the resistance from the green agenda.

"clean water resources are gone in Wheeling now"

My water is fine. Whats wrong with yours?

Here's a tip: Whenever you use terms like "frackers" and "frackhornet", you lose all credibility in your argument because you are flaunting your bias. Go read a book.

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IMHERE

Nov-20-13 8:58 AM

Mr Stout is an professor at a University that sold away parts of their land in Wetzel County to Gas/Oil industry! So your employer is collecting money from the industry, paying your salary with it, and your fighting the recycling of the water thats being used to help bring up the resources that is paying your salary? Its a JoKE.....if Stout or any other so called worried water warrior owned a piece of property that Green Hunter wanted to build on and offered them the right amount, they would sell out quicker than anyone! Its funny how everybody against everything is sitting on their hands hoping and preying that one day they to can receive $4,000 monthly royalty checks!

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IMHERE

Nov-20-13 9:07 AM

Oh and its pretty hysterical how Wheeling Jesuit University holds a Anti-Fracking event with photos and documents depicting the horrible things that the Gas/Oil industry is doing to the people and the land yet 25 miles down route 2 the same people they are making out to be so crude are drilling on Wheeling Jesuits property at a location known as Lantz Farm!!!! It just amazes me how two faces people really are when it comes to this? OH, LETS HAVE A ANTI FRACKING CONVENTION ON CAMPUS BUT shhhhhh!!!!!!! dont tell anybody here about Lantz Farm being drilled on right now so we can collect those royalties to pay back the diocese for building us a new field!?!?

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WVUGEO

Nov-20-13 9:22 AM

Getting back to that Radium thing, which is only "considered to be radioactive", and "present only in miniscule amounts", The US Geologic Survey Scientific Investigations Report 2011-515: "Radium Content of Oil- and Gas-Field Produced Waters in the Northern Appalachian Basin (USA)"; confirms that Radium, an horrific radioactive toxin that can displace calcium in your bones, can be present in frack flowback, "Produced Waters", from the Marcellus in amounts as high as "18,000 picocuries per liter (pCi/L)". By comparison, the Federal limit on Radium in industrial effluent is only 60 pCi/L, and the EPA's drinking water standard is 5 pCi/L.

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IMHERE

Nov-20-13 9:37 AM

BLAH-BLAH-BLAH.....information that nobody can even understand partially?!?! Go write it to National Geographic......so do you only drink bottled water, do you boil your water before you bathe in it, bottom line is....everyone of us somehow in someway pollute the atmosphere everyday we wake up! You drive a car? OK, they you are a contributor to depletion of the earths ozone! You throw away plastic bottles in the garbage? OK you are a contributor to the overfilled wastelands!

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WVUGEO

Nov-20-13 9:44 AM

And, if whoever clicked "disagree" on our first post was disagreeing with the fact that shale wastes trigger radiation alarms, see, very recently, from August 22, 2013, in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette: "'Marcellus Shale Waste Trips More Radioactivity Alarms Than Other Products Left At Landfills'; Last year, nearly 1,000 trucks hauling 15,769 tons of Marcellus Shale waste were stopped at Pennsylvania landfill gates after tripping radioactivity alarms".

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joeknows

Nov-20-13 9:47 AM

Dr. Stout isn't responsible for what the University is leasing, surely he doesn't agree with it. how many of you love what your bosses do? don't bash a beloved local person who is doing good work. millions of gallons of toxic waste being generated here everyday and no way to dispose and monitor it. unless they use less water for fracking the problem isn't going away. if it seems drastic to suggest no frack pads within a mile,no compressors, no wastewater treatment within a mile of homes, no hazardous waste convoys beside homes, that's how far gone we are. home heating infrastructure is another topic, since you'd like to know: kids, it's ok for thinking people to develop biases. I have a bias against crapping where i sleep too. But only those who don't sH*^ where they sleep would understand a bias like that. and there's a "book" called the local water quality report, it isn't comprehensive but recommended reading.

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IMHERE

Nov-20-13 10:01 AM

Not meaning to bash anybody, but lets be real here......how about this one? If Green Hunter offered a salary of $250,000 for him to work for them as a Biologist would he accept? Your goda*n right he would! Because money is everything! PERIOD! And as far as reading the local water report, whats the point?!?! Simple solution for you.....if you dont like whats in the water then dont drink it or bathe in it! My water seems fine, tastes fine, rinses away the soap fine after showering? If you dont like the area water then move overseas where there are absolutely no regulations on water and thats if there is any water! Learn to accept and live what you have available to you or go visit a 3rd world country and see if your complaints really add up to what they should be

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TrollSlayer

Nov-20-13 10:21 AM

WVUGEO, everything you posted, EVERYTHING, was IRRELEVANT fearmongering and disinformation. Fracking flowback WON’T be dumped in the river, so your comparison to the industrial effluent standard is IRRLEVANT. Nobody will be drinking fracking flowback, so your comparison to the drinking water standard is IRRLEVANT. Fracking flowback WON’T be transported to landfills, so your mention of radiation alarms at landfills set off by materials OTHER THAN FRACKING FLOWBACK is IRRELEVANT.

Do you really have NOTHING relevant to say, so you have to babble IRRELEVANT nonsense in your DISINFORMATION, FEARMONGERING campaign? NOTHING? How dishonest of you.

yawn...... Come back when you have a SINGLE relevant, documented example of harm ANYWHERE in the Ohio Valley. zzzzzzzzz........

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idliketoknow

Nov-20-13 11:00 AM

"kids, it's ok for thinking people to develop biases"

Yeah, but you sound one he|| of a lot smarter if your biases are based in facts. You slept through that part.

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anutterview

Nov-20-13 11:44 AM

WVUGEO, as you debate radium contamination, why aren't you raising alarms concerning the radon entering homes from natural decay in the soils under the houses in WV (not from deep well drilling)?

Is it because that radiation is a less severe threat or because that radiation does not serve your 'alternative energy and coal to gas agenda'?

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WVUGEO

Nov-20-13 12:05 PM

nut: The phenomenon you mention has nothing to do with the subject at hand. But, if we already have radiation contaminantion, in the form of radon, as you suggest, why would we want to add a big bunch more to it for the sake of what is, in fact,in terms of what we will see to be the total economically-recoverable net energy content, a relatively minor resource that will have virtually no long-term beneficial impact on local employment?

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TrollSlayer

Nov-20-13 12:18 PM

Sure GEO. Now remind us again that since the 110 square miles of Ohio County is smaller than the 5,000 square miles of the record-breaking Barnett Shale in Texas, the 95,000 square miles of the Marcellus Shale, and the 170,000 square miles of the Utica Shale beneath it, are “a relatively minor resource.” LOL

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mkhunt

Nov-20-13 2:47 PM

Quake just hit area...so you still think injecting the waste water into Ohio is a great idea? Fracking mess!

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idliketoknow

Nov-20-13 4:23 PM

mkhunt, there are no injection wells anywhere near the epicenter. take your misinformation elsewhere.

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wonderwhy

Nov-20-13 5:10 PM

idliketoknow

Nov-20-13 4:23 PM Agree | Disagree

mkhunt, there are no injection wells anywhere near the epicenter. take your misinformation elsewhere

Let me guess, idliketoknow believes in Freedom of speech..........theirs Only...........no wonderwhy!

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WVUGEO

Nov-20-13 5:11 PM

Maybe not this one; but, Ohio's Department of Natural Resources did conclude that a dozen earthquakes in and around Youngstown, OH, in 2011-2012, were definitely caused by frack waste injection. But, yes, contrary to one comment, there is drilling and fracking in and around Nelsonville, OH, where preliminary reports have the epicenter of the one today.

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mikeyd

Nov-20-13 5:36 PM

and how is it that these gas company officials think that a bargeload of fracking fluid is worth anywhere close to a bargeload of coal?

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TrollSlayer

Nov-20-13 8:45 PM

mikeyd, and who are you to tell a private business whether the cargo they are shipping is worth it to them? Maybe you think the Government should shut down businesses if they don’t generate the profit per barge you think they should? Communist Governments exercise that kind of control.

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anutterview

Nov-20-13 10:21 PM

WVUGEO - You may call me ANOTHERVIEW or ANUTTER if you would like, NUT is so impersonal, and not uniquely descriptive on this site.

I hope you don't mind if I think that your 'green' agenda is more about alternate coal uses that it is about dirty water processing.

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Marcellus

Nov-21-13 7:19 AM

Ah yes, PROFESSOR DROLLSAVER knows all, and we are awed by the bullying and insults, but not much else. YAWN

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mikeyd

Nov-21-13 7:49 AM

ok troll,tell me how much a bargeload of used fracking fluid is worth.

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