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Here’s the Big Obamacare Lie

December 14, 2013

The good news, the son of a friend of mine told him, is that he finally was able to sign up for health insurance through the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare....

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daWraith

Dec-20-13 6:47 PM

FumbledReputation "s to wraiffbaits "1.46 million of them actually signed up for Medicaid. If that trend continues, it could"

Your speculations are to reality as staring at the sun is to knowing its bright. "

Fumbled the ball again, jerko, NO SPECULATION as you Messiah in Chief Sez so!

"DEC 04, 2013

The Obama administration said Tuesday that more than 1.46 million people have been found eligible and signed up for Medicaid or the Children's Health Insurance Program in October. Meanwhile, South Dakota's governor won't rule out expanding Medicaid in the future and Ohio lawmakers are poised to give themselves greater oversight of the program after the governor bypassed them to expand it.

No speculatiin' Loosey, you got some 'planin to do

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uglyassmf

Dec-19-13 5:43 AM

In my opinion paying the fine is worth having the access if you actually need to buy it and if that combined with buyers keeps the plan running good. The only true choice they have to fix health care in this country is single payer. As unpopular is it is it seems to fine for countries who have it. The ones who say they would rather have the system that we had before the ACA are liars. I have friends in Canada and they laugh at us and shake their heads in disbelief.

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uglyassmf

Dec-19-13 5:35 AM

I'll just pay the fine and put my money in the bank. If I get sick..i'll sign up.

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promo61

Dec-17-13 3:45 PM

The bottom line is we have turned the insurance industry on it's ear for what was 10% of the uninsured population. (BTW, the lack of insurance never impeded access to health care) In exchange for that, every insured person will pay more for less coverage. If enough young healthy people don't sign up, the law is DOA. Turns out young people are smarter than that. Why would they pay a hefty monthly premium "in Case" they get sick? Makes more sense to buy after they get sick since they cannot be denied. That's the Achilles Heel of the ACA. Look for the fines to go up if too many people take advantage.

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dyingov

Dec-15-13 4:30 PM

"This is one of the more egregious cases of robbing Peter to pay Paul, and is a vote we do not take lightly," more than 100 Democrats wrote in an August 2010 letter to then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.).

But then President Barack Obama smoothed things over in a meeting at the White House, because the bill in question was the Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act -- a priority of the first lady's. The measure provided free lunches and updated nutrition standards for schools.

"I am very pleased we were able to work together with the president and his team to address concerns regarding cuts to the food stamp program that are included in the child nutrition bill," Rep. Barbara Lee (D-Calif.) said in a statement at the time. On Tuesday, Lee told HuffPost the president had pledged to support replacing the SNAP funds, a vow he fulfilled in subsequent budget blueprints that didn't become law. Congress and the White House have been otherwise silent about the issue for the

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dyingov

Dec-15-13 4:28 PM

Rocky, not easy to keep-up with the Congress!

Huffington Post:

"But the cut, which will reduce monthly benefits for all 47 million Americans enrolled in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program by roughly 7 percent, is happening thanks mainly to Democratic votes that hastened the demise of a benefit increase from the 2009 stimulus bill. Each of the representatives at Tuesday's presser voted with their party for a pair of 2010 spending bills that set the cuts in motion.

The first bill took money allocated for future food stamp use and used it instead to prevent states from laying off teachers. Democrats supported the bill grudgingly, lamenting that it would cause a food stamp cut in 2014. When it came time to support a second bill that raided future food stamp funds once again, pushing the cut to November 2013, they protested -- at least at first."

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RockEReputation

Dec-15-13 1:08 PM

"Democrats voted to cut food stamp payments ..so they would not have to lay-off teachers"

While the House wanted a $39 billion cut in SNAP, the Dems whittled it down to 3.9 to save farm subsidies ...which is highly debatable logic...so much for keeping the poor strong to fight the wars.

as to wraiffbaits "1.46 million of them actually signed up for Medicaid. If that trend continues, it could"

Your speculations are to reality as staring at the sun is to knowing its bright.

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ShempH

Dec-15-13 1:06 PM

Not to mention that all that enroll are required to give either their debit card or bank account number to a very non secured site.......Why is it called Affordable Health Care?

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ShempH

Dec-15-13 1:06 PM

Not to mention that all that enroll are required to give either their debit card or bank account number to a very non secured site.......Why is it called Affordable Health Care?

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WVEXPAT

Dec-15-13 1:04 PM

Rocke,

While the uninsured obviously add costs to the system the $900 figure (Families USA study?) seems very high. Kaiser sets the costs at 1.7% and an older study by the Lewin Group at $85.

"RomneyCare" did reduce uncompensated costs from $616 million to $414 million (40%), but subsidies cost over $800 million.

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caltransplant

Dec-15-13 12:20 PM

I love irony of our editor talk about someone else lieing.

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dyingov

Dec-15-13 11:18 AM

rockhead, You might want to read how the Democrats voted to cut food stamp payments in order to send states funds so they would not have to lay-off teachers! Politicians of the modern day make 99% decisions based on next elections votes!

Oldmansvan, Who will be paying for noboma care?

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daWraith

Dec-15-13 11:04 AM

DOWN1 1001 words, d*mn!

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daWraith

Dec-15-13 11:03 AM

RacketeeringReputation is obfuscating the obvious here in that daWraith has completely destroyed his "1.6 million Obamascam registration" talking point of the day.

Lets go over it again, student of FAIL:

""The good news, if you want to call it that, is that roughly 1.6 million Americans have enrolled in ObamaCare so far.

The not-so-good news is that 1.46 million of them actually signed up for Medicaid. If that trend continues, it could bankrupt both federal and state governments. Medicaid is already America’s third-largest government program, trailing only Social Security and Medicare, as a proportion of the federal budget."

So the naysayers are the truth speakers in that less than 200K signed up for cACAcare while most took the welfare route through their STATE.

Besides, ObfuscationReputation, even MessiahCare admits there will be STILL 30 MILLION uninsured who will show up at Hospital for their burrito removals, so when is my insurance going to go DOW

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RockEReputation

Dec-15-13 10:52 AM

wraiffer quoque wiffer

Since 85% of the cost of treating the uninsured is paid to the hospitals and clinics who treat them with your tax monies..

..and only adds about %900 a year to your family health insurance premiums

You thus seem like a giving sort, so..will you be making any donations to the poor this Christmas seeing how your ilk has cut SNAP benefits for the needy by $1.40 per meal here in the richest nation in history?

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dyingov

Dec-15-13 10:00 AM

rocky, The banks require you to insure the value of the loan! Maybe because the bank owns the home until you pay if off!

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daWraith

Dec-15-13 9:59 AM

Minivan, takes some IQ pills and call us in the morning!

daFACTS not the daJack:

NY POST:

"The good news, if you want to call it that, is that roughly 1.6 million Americans have enrolled in ObamaCare so far.

The not-so-good news is that 1.46 million of them actually signed up for Medicaid. If that trend continues, it could bankrupt both federal and state governments. Medicaid is already America’s third-largest government program, trailing only Social Security and Medicare, as a proportion of the federal budget.

Almost 8 cents out of every dollar that the federal government spends goes to Medicaid. That’s more than $265 billion per year."

its FREEEEEEEEEE!

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oldmansvan

Dec-15-13 9:56 AM

You righties should be thrilled with Obamacare. People will have to pay for their own health care instead of the tax payers. We need that tax money for the phony wars Bush lied us into. MISSION ACOMPLISHED!!!!!!!!!!!!???????

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daWraith

Dec-15-13 9:35 AM

Rocke tried to pay for HIS Obamacare with PENPAL!!

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daWraith

Dec-15-13 9:34 AM

USA Today 11/13/13

"WASHINGTON — Just 26,794 of the 106,185 people who selected health insurance last month used the troubled federal exchange site, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said Wednesday.

The remaining 79,391 people used the state exchanges to enroll, for a total of 106,185 people enrolled from Oct. 1 to Nov. 2. That's a fraction of the 7 million people the government estimates will buy insurance during the first year of the Affordable Care Act."

I think Rocke got his numbers from the ASPCA as they count in dog years. 1 REAL enrollee = 7 imaginary people in cACA-speak.

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daWraith

Dec-15-13 9:26 AM

RemedialReputation was home schooled by a badger!

Since cACAcare requires you to give up ALL of your information just to get a quote, Slayer is right, APPLICATIONS mean nothing.

VAST VAST majority go on the site and find out THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT and STOP.

But they completed the application.

And of those who COMPLETE the application, a high percentage do NOT PAY because they are the Obama Deadbeat welfare crowd.

And THEN, if they DO PAY, the back end processing is so glitchy, that info does NOT GET to the insurance companies, so come Jan 1 they may find out they have RockeCare which only covers sickness that occur on Feb. 29 of every year!

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RockEReputation

Dec-15-13 9:04 AM

p a y p a l

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RockEReputation

Dec-15-13 9:03 AM

WHile I'm in the knowing that ACA enrollees numbers listed AS OF 11/2013 didn't use ****** to institue their coverages that need be in effect the 1/2014

...I'm also aware that Mitt Care attracted about 120 enrolleess its first month (AND resulted in zero GOpeers firing the base to pray for its failure since their multiple attempts to repeal it failed)

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TrollSlayer

Dec-15-13 8:21 AM

RockE, maybe you don’t realize that the number of “completed applications” does NOT equal the number who have “obtained insurance.” Entering your personal data into the glitchy, unsecure website doesn’t mean you’re insured. You then have to select an insurer, select a plan, determine your subsidy, and... here’s the funnest part... PAY for it. There are glitches at each step of that rocky road, too.

With less than two weeks to the already-delayed enrollment deadline, the Obamascam is in complete Obama chaos, and the Obamboozler White House is in full panic mode. At least Barry can take some Christmas joy in that Lie of the Year award your own liberal fact checker Politifact gave him. He DID build that.

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RockEReputation

Dec-15-13 6:05 AM

JackP17..absent from 2nd grade the day they covered reading comprehension?

wraifferbait: According to a ASPE Office of Health Policy report released Wednes: "1,827,440 completed applications were submitted to Marketplaces during the first two months of the initial open enrollment period including applications that were submitted to the SBMs and FFM. These completed applications correspond to 3,692,599 individuals who have applied for coverage through the Marketplaces during this time period."

I realize that number is too high and too low for an uninformed FOX servile dependent such as you.

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