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Unclear When Water Will Be Safe Again

Federal officials now involved in probe of accident

January 11, 2014

CHARLESTON — A chemical spill left the water for 300,000 people in and around West Virginia’s capital city stained blue-green and smelling like licorice, with officials saying Friday it was unclear......

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RealConcernefCitizen

Jan-13-14 8:21 PM

TrollSlayer you're spot on. WV receives a lot of Fed Emergency Management money, and this proves there are serious problems in WV. There is NO return on investment, appears it was totally wasted money, evidenced by the lack of any plan, no detection or monitoring, no resPons equipment, nit even an understanding of the Chemical the sits up river from the water intake. If the Feds do their jobs, it should be very interesting in WV over the next couple of years.

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TrollSlayer

Jan-12-14 7:57 PM

The lack of any EPA or WVDEP inspections or oversight has been a really poor “RTD” (that means "Return On Taxpayer Dollars" for you Bigger Government Will Keep Us Safer oinkers)...

Choker “not one Sunday Morning News Show covered the fact that 300,000 West Virginians' were without water”

Fox News ran that story every morning since it broke. Maybe you’re watching one of those lower-rated channels...

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TrollSlayer

Jan-12-14 2:33 PM

Choker, I just hope those "terriorists" have had their rabies shots. Because dog bites are nasty enough without the adding rabies into the mix...

Enlighten you? You're enlightened enough, pig boy... OINK! LOL

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RealConcernefCitizen

Jan-12-14 1:12 PM

State cronism, incompetence is rampant. Feds need to investigate the State inspection people and processes. The marcellus/Utica liquids are both highly flammable (rolling bombs thru towns, parked at hotels) buts also carcinogenic and have been and are being spilled into he Ohio river. Facilities along the river are not complying with DEP nor EPA requirements, and the State is turning a blind eye. This is the result! AUDITS and INVESTIGATIONS are required!!!

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mikeyd

Jan-12-14 9:58 AM

troll,just trying to keep things straight.it would be nice to know who authorized the dumping in the river or did the truck drivers decide to do this on their own.truck drivers generally have good common sense so i would think that they were ordered by someone above them.they were dumping many loads[the river was clean[looking] at the time and you could watch the muddy cloud going into it.there were no recycling containers here at the time for this stuff.the trucks were constant day and night which is what warwood will be looking at.we had no clue at the time what was being dumped but we did know that if we were at that site dumping we would be in trouble.i believe that some politics played into this otherwise the city cops would have stopped them.

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TrollSlayer

Jan-12-14 8:56 AM

Thanks for clearing that up, mikeyd. Yours is the only report of that incident I've ever heard of, so the details are sketchy.

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mikeyd

Jan-12-14 6:51 AM

troll,when did i say that the gas company dumped the flowback into the river for years[two months give or take]?did i say north of the water treatment plant or directly at our water treatment plant?please pay attention.this was only done while brownlee's property was being fracked.

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LogHog

Jan-12-14 6:37 AM

I have had a Berkley Filter in my kitchen for a couple of years. Unpolluted water is at the top of my list. Right beside clean air to breath. With the public need for energy and chemical products, how can we have pristine air and water in our current world? We need more than regulations. We need responsibility and respect. Just a dream I guess.

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walksabout

Jan-12-14 2:54 AM

energy source not relevant if you can figure a way to have others pay for yours.

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walksabout

Jan-12-14 2:52 AM

the wisest long term fix may be a road map and moving van. what good is a living wage it there isn't water to live ?

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walksabout

Jan-12-14 2:48 AM

what does dirty water, NAFTA, have in common ? Both can close business doors.

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TrollSlayer

Jan-12-14 12:00 AM

The batteries - dozens and dozens of them - are lead acid batteries like the battery in your automobile, but more expensive of course, and they’ll need to be replaced every few years, just like your car battery. Of course a company will have to recycle and transport that toxic lead, and manufacture and transport that poisonous acid – industrial processes that present their own environmental risks...

Did I mention automobile? To be truly green you’ll need to buy an electric vehicle with even more batteries, that you would charge with more land clearing solar cells and bird and bat shredding windmills. Because you can’t be green driving a petroleum exhaust spewing car, or, God forbid, driving a fracked greenhouse shale gas emitting car...

This green thing is sure getting expensive and complicated and full of risks of its own. Maybe that’s why nobody is doing it, not even the greenbaggers...

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littlefox

Jan-11-14 11:38 PM

Where can I safely dispose of batteries? Why would I need to cut down my old-wood trees and where will the owls go? I love my neighbors and wish them prosperity. WTF RRaphael, where can I sign up for my FREE energy (with initial setup costs), and what do you think my initial setup costs for a small, two bedroom home will be? Residual damage aside. A link to details would be so helpful. Prove these haters wrong! Counting on you <3 !!

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atoddh

Jan-11-14 9:55 PM

Nuclear will have a renaissance in Asia and India soon. It makes sense for them.

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atoddh

Jan-11-14 9:53 PM

Thank You Log. I have been looking for the best unit to buy. There are many choices now.

I am very much in favor of gas development in the OV and will benefit from it. Exceptional caution and engineering must be a part of the entire process: in both drilling and handling of waste water. It can be done.

Gas is a has a huge benefit for the USA. And the OV is a major player: globally.CO2 must be curtailed soon.

The Governor has really done everything possible to get control of this extraordinary problem. Lessons will be learned. Inspections will be rigorous going forward.

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BigMike

Jan-11-14 9:53 PM

RRafael2: Install your own solar/wind generation and then go off the grid for a year and get back to us, if you can. No campfires allowed (too much carbon).

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TrollSlayer

Jan-11-14 9:47 PM

And then you still need that dirty fracked gas for heat. What? You thought just getting off the coal-fired electrical grid made you totally green? LOL I suppose you could shut the gas off and heat with solar and wind power. Remember that clear-cut acre? Make it five acres...

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TrollSlayer

Jan-11-14 9:46 PM

The next step is to clear cut at least an acre of land around your home. Clear-cutting isn’t very green, but being green isn’t always about being green-green. That sunshine and wind may be free but they’re not very dependable. It’s cloudy a lot in WV, and the winter nights are long in WV, and the wind doesn’t always blow in WV, so you need a LOT of room for a LOT of solar cells and a LOT of windmills to charge LOTS of...

...batteries. You need lots of batteries. Expensive batteries. You’ll probably need a separate storage room just to hold all the batteries. Those are what keep your power on during those long WV winter nights and cloudy WV days.

And inverters. And controllers. And switches. And wiring and conduit and support structures and... All of which cost mo money. And mo money to install. And mo money to maintain...

But at least the sunshine and wind parts are free. The solar and wind electric power coming out the other end? Not so free....

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TrollSlayer

Jan-11-14 9:45 PM

littlefox, the first step to get yourself some of that free solar and wind energy is to get yourself a Federal Government subsidy. That federal tax credit doesn't bring the actual cost down any, but does allow you to shift 30% your cost to taxpayers nationwide, and since most of them are "rich" wage earners who cares about them?

The next thing you get is a State Government subsidy, in the form of an additional 30% State tax credit. Because it takes a village to be green, and your fellow WV taxpaying neighbors are so happy you’re being green they’re willing to pull a chunk of your weight.

Hey, by shifting the cost onto your fellow citizens you’re already 60% of the way to “free.”

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BigMike

Jan-11-14 9:44 PM

"Contrary to what the big energy industry would have you believe, oal, oil and gas are NOT necessary to have electricity. "

However, they are necessary to have reliable affordable energy. In a free competitive market wind and solar are neither reliable or affordable.

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dyingov

Jan-11-14 9:30 PM

Wind/solar to operate all of your electricity needs including HVAC and batteries when the sun and wind are producing zero energy! Price that out and let us know the cost! I'm sure the wait for the solar/wind installation will be months! LOL

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littlefox

Jan-11-14 9:07 PM

rover1958 - "East Sweet Jesus, Ohio or some such sheit hole," "God’s Own West Virginia," and "You sad POS."

All in the same comment.

Hypocrisy check, check...

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littlefox

Jan-11-14 8:55 PM

RRafael2 - "Step outside on any given day, and you've got energy all around you in the form of wind and sunshine. All you need to do is harness it, it's becoming easier every day. After initial setup costs, FREE ENERGY for 25-30 years."

Awesome, lets get started! I'm ready (after initial setup costs) to get my FREE ENERGY. What do I need to do?

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TrollSlayer

Jan-11-14 7:38 PM

raver “TrollTool – blah blah blah sheit hole yadda yadda Tea Party Overlords blah blah blah Klan meetings waaaa waaa waaaa You sad POS....must suk to be YOU.”

Actually, that pizzy little post of yours makes it sound like it kinda sux to be you, raver. Maybe you need a Midol. LOL

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TrollSlayer

Jan-11-14 7:31 PM

RRafael “solar or wind... After initial setup costs, FREE ENERGY for 25-30 years.”

Keep dreaming. Do a little investigation on the duration of the parts and service warranty on a high tech solar or wind system, and the regular maintenance cost, and weather damage repair cost, and get back to us on how “FREE” that free energy is. Because if it were really free, and really feasible here, you'd have one. LOL

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