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Demand Safe Drinking Water

January 19, 2014

Investigations by the press into a disastrous chemical spill in Kanawha County keep turning up alarming revelations about what appears to be a near-total failure of government to safeguard public......

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Gooseman

Jan-20-14 9:32 PM

How long before the right wing votes down funding for any legitimate environmental regulating agency or legitimate inspection policies of toxic waste/hazmat chemicals? Not long.

How long before another environmental disaster and the same right wing crucifies the regulatory agencies (which they denied funding for) and blames that agency for not "doing its job"..not long.

Morons and hypocrites. It never ends with them.

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WVUGEO

Jan-20-14 8:48 AM

Concerning our last post, one of the "Solar Fuels Hubs" established by the USDOE is at the California Institute of Technology, and, they just published: "United States Patent Application 20130256147 - Solar Fuels Generator; October 3, 2013. Government Interests: This invention was made with government support under DE-SC000493/T-105066 awarded by the Department of Energy. The government has certain rights in the invention"; wherein it's explained how sunlight can be used to drive a process that converts CO2, along with hydrogen concurrently extracted from water, directly into such seemingly-desirable stuff as Methanol, Ethanol, and substitute natural gas Methane.

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WVUGEO

Jan-20-14 8:36 AM

Concerning atodhh's post: The CO2 can be dealt with, by the way, if anyone's actually interested in more than the narrow alleys illuminated by the pencil lights of your press. Right now, in Germany, industrial exhaust gas CO2 is being harvested and converted into substitute natural gas methane and into raw material for synthesizing plastics. Japan, as well, is converting CO2 into substitute natural gas methane in processes driven by solar energy. Saudi Arabia is building a factory to convert CO2 into synthetic petroleum. The USDOE has established artificial photosynthesis, CO2-to-fuels centers around the country. The Defense Department has established and financed a number of CO2-to-fuels technologies, some driven by various forms of environmental energies. Just ask the editor of this rag. It's all been documented for him.

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TrollSlayer

Jan-19-14 10:16 PM

atoddh, burning methane produces CO2, too, and methane is a more powerful greenhouse gas than CO2. You're next on the greenbaggers' list. You just don't know it yet. LOL

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atoddh

Jan-19-14 10:11 PM

clu: Yes one could argue global warming is a public health issue also. The weather is now affected in a negative way all over the Planet. Coal is going to have to go unless the CO2 can be dealt with.

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atoddh

Jan-19-14 10:06 PM

The NR and WV Press in general have done an excellent job on this crisis. Let's hope the pressure for quality inspections is sustained by the Press. This is a major public health issue.

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TrollSlayer

Jan-19-14 10:02 PM

Clueless, WV Demorat Rahall ALSO VOTED YES ON THAT BILL. Guess you missed that. LOL

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GETACLUE

Jan-19-14 8:14 PM

On the very day of the spill WV REPUBLICANS Shelly Capito and David McKinley were VOTING YES ON A BILL TO RELAX ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS ON PRIVATE INDUSTRY.

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walksabout

Jan-19-14 6:24 PM

71% of Americans from all political spectrum are powerless to control the 1% that matters in all matters.

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walksabout

Jan-19-14 6:22 PM

energy exploration and harvesting has a large % SWAG involved. You welcome the wolf to babysit the chicks, you have no right to complain what the wolves did.

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walksabout

Jan-19-14 6:18 PM

you can pick up on a moments notice and move to good water if you avoid the foolish idea of home ownership and material junk collecting.

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TrollSlayer

Jan-19-14 4:21 PM

ChokingStalker “"TrollSlayer/"daWraith" will start another filibuster again.”

And ParasiticPig will be OINKing and whining again. You gotta do what you’re good at, Choker. LOL

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TrollSlayer

Jan-19-14 4:19 PM

WVUGEO "Shale Gas used for generating electricity will, for several reasons, over several decades, be worse for global warming than Coal"

GEO, is that shale gas methane any different than the coal-derived methane or CO2-derived methane you're always trying to sell us on here? No. Same stuff. So why are you hawking that Earth-killing coal to methane and CO2 to methane scam? Maybe because it supports your all-coal-all-the-time agenda? LOL

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WVUGEO

Jan-19-14 11:37 AM

In the June, 2011, report: "Methane and the Greenhouse-gas Footprint of Natural Gas from Shale Formations", by Cornell University scientist Robert Howarth, et. al., it was demonstrated that Shale Gas used for generating electricity will, for several reasons, over several decades, be worse for global warming than Coal; and, be about the same over the course of a century. Though highly criticized by gas-financed shills, the thesis was confirmed by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration through life-cycle measurements and calculations of shale gas production and use in Utah/Colorado. Later measurements and calculations by the Cornell team confirmed them, as well; and, they later issued a detailed, as-yet un-refuted, affirmation of the now-apparent facts.

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TrollSlayer

Jan-19-14 11:22 AM

So GEO, you're saying those big energy companies don't know what they're doing when it comes to making cheap electricity? Well, you coal shills always know better than those multi-BILLION dollar power companies successfully selling you all that cheap power... LOL

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TrollSlayer

Jan-19-14 11:19 AM

So GEO, what does "the Ohio State" say about all the carbon dioxide the carbon dirty coal industry you're constantly shilling for produces? Too funny when coal shills play the "who's the greenest" game... LOL

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WVUGEO

Jan-19-14 11:19 AM

The use of gas as a fuel for generating electricity is an artificial construct arising from misguided application of environmental guidelines and relatively lower capital, although much higher operating, expense for gas relative to Coal. It always has been and always will be, on a cost per-Btu generated basis in thermal power plants, much more expensive to generate electricity from gas that it is to generat electricity from Coal.

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TrollSlayer

Jan-19-14 11:17 AM

WVUGEO “environmental costs that haven't yet been fully assessed”

You seem to always be short on specific examples of that. Again, a single example of all your death and destruction babble, anywhere in the Ohio Valley, would bolster your argument immensely. LOL

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TrollSlayer

Jan-19-14 11:15 AM

WVUGEO “since we don't have as much of it as we have been led, for whatever suspect reasons, to believe”

Right, GEO. Because the boys at “the Ohio State” and one coal shill from WVU know better than the hundreds of professional geologists employed by all those big energy companies who are spending BILLIONS here and are already producing TRILLIONS of cubic feet of clean natural gas here... LOL

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TrollSlayer

Jan-19-14 11:11 AM

WVUGEO “since there are no industries of genuine significance which can be founded on gas as a raw material”

So you’ve never heard of plastic? Fertilizer? Electrical power? Too funny.

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TrollSlayer

Jan-19-14 11:10 AM

WVUGEO “most of the gas gets piped away for conventional use elsewhere”

So you’re opposed to exports now? That makes all those overseas sales of the coal you’re constantly boosting an inconvenient truth now, doesn’t it? LOL

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TrollSlayer

Jan-19-14 11:07 AM

WVUGEO “very few locals are employed in the drilling industry”

So you blame the industry because so few locals are willing to obtain the training, relocate to the job sites, get the experience, do the hard work, or stay clean and sober long enough to pass the drug test? Don't you whiners have mirrors? LOL

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TrollSlayer

Jan-19-14 11:01 AM

RockEReprobation "71% of Americans from all political spectrum say the country should do whatever it takes to protect the environment"

...but for some reason they just can't pull their main breakers and shut off their gas valves and do whatever it takes to not be hypocrites? So maybe they ARE enjoying at least SOME benefit from all that cheap energy and cheap Texas labor. I mean, when you can pay a non-local with non-local redistributed welfare to cheaply heat your house with their products while you spend your daze whining here about those products instead of doing the dirty work of mining and drilling and pipelining them yourself, why not? LOL

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caltransplant

Jan-19-14 10:47 AM

Wrat boy just can't pass up an opportunity to be in-appropriate.

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RockEReputation

Jan-19-14 10:42 AM

"tell us who CREATED this woundrous EPA"

To flaunt the fact that the EPA was created under Nixon is of absolutely no merit or pride for GOPeers and of no debate value with me.

Cutting right to the chase: Opposing the EPA, cutting its budget, wishing for its absolution is to possessing a sound, actual environmental policy exactly what fighting Obamacare with no alternative is to having any sound, actual health insurance formula.NOTHINGNESS!

The party of no and no options and no future.

When 71% of Americans from all political spectrum say the country should do whatever it takes to protect the environment then you are but in a boisterously unhinged minority.

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