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No Effect From Local Propane

Even with drilling boom, prices still rising

February 7, 2014
 
 
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Marcellus

Feb-07-14 6:23 AM

It's TRUE after all... these shale booms are NOT about 'US Energy Independence' they are all about selling to the highest bidder overseas and making higher corporate profits. SO SORRY AMERICA! According to the EIA the US has increased propane exports to 16,800,000 gallons per day. Pay up or chop wood!

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TrollSlayer

Feb-07-14 6:57 AM

Of course there’s an effect, duh. When you increase the supply, the price falls. But yes, it’s a world market, so when the market demand increases faster than the supply increases, the price still goes up. And when the temperatures are this cold, the demand goes up even more. And since the pipeline and processing infrastructure are still in their early stages of development, the increase in supply from local shale gas isn’t at its full potential - yet. Several logical reasons the price for propane is still increasing. But if you prefer conspiracy theories and anti-capitalism babble, listen to the cries of the loons.

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TrollSlayer

Feb-07-14 7:19 AM

Marcellus “Pay up or chop wood!”

Shut down the gas industry and... chop wood! Or heat with the pixie dust Marcellus uses... Derrrrr....

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mikeyd

Feb-07-14 8:35 AM

and we knew that this would happen.there will be a few to get rich off this.the gas officials can bs.some of the people all of the time[mostly politicians].some of us aren't impressed by them.either of them.

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Triton

Feb-07-14 8:37 AM

This pasrticular writer has an agenda and newspaper people with an agenda belong of the op-ed page and not writing articles as though they are balanced reporting of news. His body of work demonstrates that. This article is one such with a dig at the energy industry. There are vast oil fields in the Dakotas but people there don't have cheaper gas because of that, it has to be prepped for market. You don't drill a hole in the ground and get propane. There is a hint that we are being treated unfairly. And in his Henny Penny the sky is falling style we are told that propane users will pay more this winter. Really? I cannot imagine what someone using electricity to heat will spend, and why because in this slanted view, there is coal right here and power plants right here. When a writer starts out with a desire to spin facts to fit a personal agenda he ceases being a journalist and becomes a commentator. Hey they are exporting coal overseas, that caused Ormet to close???

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wonderwhy

Feb-07-14 9:03 AM

TrollSlayer

Feb-07-14 7:19 AM Agree | Disagree

Marcellus “Pay up or chop wood!”

Shut down the gas industry and... chop wood! Or heat with the pixie dust Marcellus uses... Derrrrr

While insulting others! LOL. So intelligent and mature that ole toolboy can be!

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TrollSlayer

Feb-07-14 9:04 AM

Triton is exactly right. Junkins is obviously a "reporter" with an agenda. Which makes him no longer a journalist but an advocate. Admit it, Casey, and take your rightful place on the left side of the opinion page.

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TrollSlayer

Feb-07-14 9:05 AM

wonderwhy "So intelligent and mature that ole toolboy"

Right, wonder. Because "ole toolboy" is so intelligent and mature.

You just can't make this stuff up, folks. LOL

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Marcellus

Feb-07-14 9:34 AM

WOWeeee, sure hit a nerve on DrollSaver today, LOL! Need some novacaine Droll? Yawn, Derr, Bah Humbug.

As far as Casey Junkins' columns, he follows the middle road, reporting things as they actually are. He also works this shale gas beat harder than any other reporter in the tri-state area, perhaps even the US, which is much appreciated. The added bonus is more comment space for everyone to share their opinions and for DrollSaver to get on his Bully Pulpit... his DISAGREE votes have sure soared lately! LOL

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dyingov

Feb-07-14 9:51 AM

Corn crop was wetter (result of global warming) than normal in 2013 so a lot of propane was used to dry the corn. The propane supply was depleted and never brought back to the amount that would be needed if the Winter was colder than normal (With global warming the winters will continue to be mild, was the thinking). This might go down as one of the coldest Winters in recorded history for the Mid-Western States!

Lesson learned: Winter can be Cold even if all the global warming peeps say.... LOL

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GETACLUE

Feb-07-14 9:54 AM

THIS IS ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW

"just because propane may be drawn from the region does not mean it will be used here.

"You can load it onto tankers and take it anywhere. It all depends on the marketplace," "

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TrollSlayer

Feb-07-14 9:59 AM

Marcellus “DrollSaver to get on his Bully Pulpit... his DISAGREE votes have sure soared lately”

So tell me whose nerves are being hit, Marcy? All those “Disagrees” mean it’s not me who’s reading and whining in pain. LOL So maybe you need to save some of that “novacaine” for some of your lurking, suffering, whining, disagreeing, but obviously READING and hopefully learning pals. LOL

“Bully Pulpit”? You posted first, Marcy. So stop bullying me... sniff...

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TrollSlayer

Feb-07-14 10:03 AM

Clueless, when this region gets up and running at full production, you don't think the increased supply on the world market will affect supply and affect prices?

And no surprise a Big Government tool like yourself wouldn't understand the value of exports and a positive trade balance. When your entire income comes from taxpayers why do you need to produce anything for sale to anyone else? Derrrrr.......

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dyingov

Feb-07-14 10:52 AM

getaclue, Would you want the propane to sit in a holding tank in Belmont County or be shipped to the corn belt peeps so they can heat the farm in the Winter!

What do you do for a living? LOL

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TrollSlayer

Feb-07-14 11:05 AM

Clueless is an angry, dictatorial, clueless Big Government union tool. Has been all his life. He thinks Big Government is the answer to all our problems. Thinks that somehow private businesses and private property owners owe some of their profits and some of their wealth to him, and that he somehow has some right to dictate where and how those private businesses and property owners can do their private business.

The only thing sillier than an angry, dictatorial, clueless Big Government union tool is a pathetic, failed, oinking Big Government tool fired by the likes of Sir Randall Reid Smith. Now THAT’S silly. LOL

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idliketoknow

Feb-07-14 2:33 PM

Marcellus, did you even read the article?

Ethane, propane, and butane require a drastically different type of infrastructure and processing in order to be ready for the market.

Thanks to you tree-hugging enviro wackjobs, getting that infrastructure into place is becoming a ridiculously long drawn out process that ultimately hurts everyones wallet.

Funny thing is, it's going to happen anyway. Better get used to it.

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caltransplant

Feb-07-14 4:20 PM

Trollslayer, you're not that stupid. There is no "left side" of the opinion page at the NR. They will abandon their right wing positions if they think that in doing so, they can befriend the locals and sell more papers and advertising. People like Myer and other NR employees have no souls. They are prosti*****, plain and simple. They abandon their commitment to the beauty of WV to assauge those employed by the coal industry. This is more of the same. Showing faux concern for the plight of locals trying to get cheap propane by attacking the energy industry. Don't worry, they'll switch sides on Monday if it'll improve the bottom line.

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UNCOMMONSENSE

Feb-07-14 6:19 PM

"Chadsey also said just because propane may be drawn from the region does not mean it will be used here"

And there's your bottom line!!!

It's ALL about making maximum profit so that means selling it to wealthy developing countries like CHINA!

See when this USED to be a DOMESTIC economy this problem didn't exist

But since we allowed OUR natural resources to be sold on the GLOBAL market, the rich just keep getting richer and the poor just keep getting poorer!

And since the stupid consumers just keep right on buying that chinese made garbage, it will only give them trillions more to spend so NOBODY will be able to out bid them!

And somewhere I'm sure there is a brain washed tree hugger who will blame EVERYTHING on "global warming"!

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TrollSlayer

Feb-07-14 6:25 PM

Calm down, cal. LOL So if they print opinions from both sides you call that “switching sides”? Seriously? We conservatives call that “balanced.” That seems like “switching sides” to you because you just aren’t used to seeing it; your steady media diet is nothing but left-wing Daily Kos Washingon Post MSNBC drivel where there truly IS no right side.

Ever read any of Chuck Rogerson’s shrill “vagina probers” drivel this paper publishes? Al Ruben’s laughable “Obamacare working” Obabble? As far left as they come. Read the opinion page of the print version this Sunday and come back to tell me there’s no left side there. LOL

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TrollSlayer

Feb-07-14 6:34 PM

Calm down, UNCOMMONSENSE. LOL Exports are a GOOD thing. They create jobs here that bring in cash from elsewhere. If you have no exports, you have no money coming into the area. No capital growth. Except for Government handouts, that is.

Exports also generate taxes, paid by mineral owners and extraction companies. Income taxes, severance taxes, property taxes, fuel taxes, sales taxes,... So the Government doesn’t have to charge YOU as much in taxes to provide the Government services you enjoy.

But if you prefer joblessness, poverty, and Government dependence for your daily bread, keep driving industry out of the state. That’s just what your “Progressive” Government wants. The less you produce, the more you need them and eventually you can’t afford not to vote for them. We’re almost there now.

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dyingov

Feb-07-14 6:52 PM

Troll, Are you coming down with the flu?

"So the Government doesn’t have to charge YOU as much in taxes to provide the Government services you enjoy."

I don't know how much more in taxes I can give, going to be 56-58% for 2013!

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TrollSlayer

Feb-07-14 7:55 PM

I said the Government doesn't HAVE to charge you as much in taxes. I didn't say they WOULDN'T charge you as much. You have to fix your Demorat problem to make that kind of change.

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dyingov

Feb-07-14 10:02 PM

just askin' LOL

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GETACLUE

Feb-07-14 11:49 PM

"When your entire income comes from taxpayers"

I don't know who you are directing this comment to I work 56 hours a week for the City Of Wheeling and another 40 hours a week in a safety department at a steel mill in Pa. So as you can see my "ENTIRE INCOME" is diversified.

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GETACLUE

Feb-08-14 12:02 AM

ToolSucker Isn't it you and the rest of the teabag ditto heads that are screaming that building the KEYSTONE XL PIPELINE will mean ENERGY INDEPENDENCE for the USA. THAT WILL BE TRUE ONLY IF "somehow private businesses and private property owners owe some of their profits and some of their wealth to the USA, and that the USA somehow has some right to dictate where and how those private businesses and property owners can DO their private business."

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