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Vice Presidential Candidates Debate the Issues

POSTED: October 3, 2008

ST. LOUIS (AP) - Under intense scrutiny, Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin stood her ground Thursday night against a vastly more experienced Joe Biden, debating the economy, energy and global warming, then challenging him on Iraq, ''especially with your son in the National Guard.''

The Alaska governor also noted that Biden had once said Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama wasn't ready to be commander in chief, ''and I know again that you opposed the move that he made to try to cut off funding for the troops and I respect you for that.''

Biden responded that John McCain, too, had voted against funding, and said the Republican presidential candidate had been ''dead wrong on the fundamental issues relating to the conduct of the war.''

The clash over Iraq was the most personal, and pointed, of the only vice presidential debate of the campaign, one in which Palin repeatedly cast herself as a non-Washington politician and part of a ''team of mavericks'' ready to bring change to a country demanding it.

''Maverick he is not on the important, critical issues,'' Biden shot back, referring to McCain. And he said Obama was the true candidate of change.

Palin, governor of her state for less than two years, faced enormous challenges as she walked onto the debate stage at Washington University. After five weeks as McCain's ticket-mate, her poll ratings have begun dropping as even some conservatives question her readiness for high public office.

Her solo campaign events are few, and she has drawn ridicule for some of her answers in the few interviews she has granted - including her claim that Alaska's proximity to Russia gives her an insight into foreign policy.

From the opening moments of the debate, Democrat Biden sought to make McCain out as a straight-ahead successor to an unpopular President Bush.

''He voted four out of five times for George Bush's budget, which put us a half-trillion dollars in debt and over $4 trillion in debt since he got here,'' Biden said of McCain.

In return, Palin accused Biden of reciting the past rather than looking to the future. ''Americans are cravin' that straight talk'' that McCain offers, she said midway in the 90-minute debate.

With one month until the election, polls show Obama with a small but perceptible lead, and Republican officials said earlier in the day that McCain had decided to pull out of Michigan, conceding the state to the Democrats.

At the same time, his own aides said the campaign may soon begin to advertise in Indiana - a state that has voted Republican in every presidential election since 1968.

After intense preparation - including two days at McCain's home in Sedona, Ariz., Palin made only one obvious stumble, when she twice referred to the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan as ''Gen. McClellan.'' His name is David McKiernan.

As is her custom on the campaign trail, she spoke in familiar terms, saying ''betcha'' rather than ''bet you'' and ''gonna'' rather than ''going to.''

She also spoke to the home folks. ''Here's a shout-out'' to third graders at Gladys Wood Elementary School in Alaska. She said they would all receive extra credit for watching the debate.

''Can I call you Joe?'' she asked Biden as they shook hands before taking their places behind identical lecterns.

He readily agreed she could - and she used it to effect more than an hour later. ''Say it ain't so, Joe,'' she said as she smilingly criticized him at one point for focusing his comments on the Bush administration rather than McCain.

Biden's burden was not nearly as fundamental as hers. Although he has long had a reputation for long-windedness, he is a veteran of more than 35 years in the Senate, with a strong knowledge of foreign policy as well as domestic issues.

For much of the evening, the debate unfolded in traditional vice presidential fashion - the running mates praising their own presidential candidate and denigrating the other.

Palin said Obama had voted to raise taxes 94 times - an allegation that Biden disputed and then countered. By the same reckoning, he said, McCain voted ''477 times to raise taxes.''

They clashed over energy policy, as well, when Palin said Obama's vote for a Bush administration-backed bill granted breaks to the oil industry. By contrast, she said that as governor, she had stood up to the same industry, and noted that McCain had voted against the bill Obama supported.

Biden said that in the past decade, McCain had voted ''20 times against funding alternative energy sources and thinks, I guess, the only answer is drill, drill, drill.''

''The chant is, 'drill, baby drill,'' Palin countered quickly, unwilling to yield to Biden on that issue - or any other.

On the environment, Palin declined to attribute the cause of climate change to man-made activities alone. ''There is something to be said also for man's activities, but also for the cyclical temperature changes on our planet,'' she said, adding that she didn't want to argue about the causes.

Biden said the cause was clearly man-made, and added, ''If you don't understand what the cause is, it's virtually impossible to come up with a solution.''

 
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wonderwhy
10-03-08 5:26 PM
dme-

and the republican admin put it out there, and the pres endorsed the bill. so, from the middle, the right just sold americans out! they ran up the biggest deficit of all time, and then got themselves some gravy on the way out, to leave whomever becomes president a dire mess to try to deal with and clean up.

it happened on bush's watch.

dmxem20011
10-03-08 4:01 PM
The Republicans who voted against it outnumbered the ones who voted for it. 61 democrats voted against it.

wonderwhy
10-03-08 11:47 AM
dme-

you can't blame this controversial bill on the dems. repubs voted for it too. and the vote was glaring to the people that were up for election. and you didn't happen to mention that mccain also supports this bill. rmemeber last week, when he suspended his campaign to go and fix things. talk about biased!

wonderwhy
10-03-08 11:45 AM
dme-

i intentioanlly studied the platforms and listen to both sides of each campaign. why? so i am educated and know who and why i am voting for them. never voted a straight ticket, never will. just becasue You claim i am biased it is not true. if you truly read my posts you will see how i orignally came on here to ask questions, and because i disagreed with untrue statements, along with racism, i am now an against the republicans for everything. i can name several local republicans that have had my support. this presidential election is an important one for the most glaring reasons. get the current administration out of there, along with their ideas. the ones that mccain voted with 94% of the time.

dmxem20011
10-03-08 11:44 AM
By the way Sarah Palin increased royalties and tariffs in Alaska against big oil and natural gas. She turned the Division of Oil and natural gas in Alaska into a profit maker for the STATE!

How is Biden a fierce debater? He doesnt introduce any legislation of significant importance enough!

OH wait, Obama/Biden DID!! 100 million for nascar 2 million for wooden arrows 191 million for rum

Pork Pork Pork in a financial help package

dmxem20011
10-03-08 11:32 AM
wonder why

It doesnt matter if Jesus Christ himself ran on the Republican ticket, you would find a way to whine and complain and make biast comments. A Republican could be the greatest speaker in the world and have the best views, but you wouldnt care just because they are on that TICKET!

Are you out in the streets preaching this? are you helping Obama and his cmapaign? What are you doing for your part?

Kaws52
10-03-08 10:57 AM
I agree with you wonderwhy. Although Palin only had a few days to cram, one can only expect a person to memorize so many issues and answers. This was evident when she sidestepped questions asked by the moderator. Those questions were not in her cliff notes.

I would have preferred a from the heart answer to some of the topics instead of a designated scripted response, given to her by the Republican campaign.

She talks of changing big government, but does she practice what she preaches. She is using her role as the new gov.of Alaska (less than two years )to do just what she claims the Palin MeCain campaign won't do. I am actually a bit weary of everyone treating Palin with kid gloves afraid of being labeled unfair because she is woman. She is running with the big dogs now...and should be treated as equally as any one else. Hillary Clinton was taken to task many times, treat Palin no different.

TruthSeeker
10-03-08 10:57 AM
I'm waiting for the Myer piece that will tell us that Sarah-the-Moose-Hunter won. This AP article is too unbiased.

wonderwhy
10-03-08 8:07 AM
palin recited a speech she was taught for the debate, with a couple of gotcha lines and a wink. and that is what the party brings to you. biden is clearly more in step with the country, adn he is a firece debater , that had to sidstep palin.

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