Obama’s Real Agenda On Coal Now Clear
By the News-RegisterA comment made by Sen. Barack Obama in January - revealing his true agenda on coal - is just now coming to light. It shows that Obama favors preventing construction of new coal-fired plants by using air pollution rules to make them prohibitively expensive.
In January, Obama talked with members of the San Francisco Chronicle's editorial board. He discussed his "cap and trade" air pollution proposals. If implemented, they would have the effect of levying stiff fees against plants emitting "greenhouse gases."
Clearly, Obama wants the scale set low on how much greenhouse gas a plant could emit before being forced to buy "credits" allowing it to operate. Here, in his own words, is what Obama told the Chronicle in regard to use of coal: "So, if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can. It's just that it will bankrupt them, because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted."
That would help explain comments made earlier this fall in Ohio, by Obama's running mate, Sen. Joe Biden. "No coal plants here in America," he emphasized. Obviously, Biden made his comments in the context of Obama's plan to price coal out of the marketplace through use of draconian air pollution rules.
Sen. John McCain has made it clear that he supports clean-coal technology - with no hidden agendas such as those Obama has in mind. As we have stressed repeatedly, McCain's plan should appeal not just to coal-state voters - but to all Americans worried about energy.
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JustAnotherLowWageWorker
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11-04-08 1:48 PM
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annied originally posted: “You say it's unethical journalism, but its the EDITORIALS you complain about” *sigh* I did not say it was unethical journalism. Here is what I originally posted: “Has this paper ever presented both sides of the argument on this issue or any other issue when it comes to Obama and McCain? Is it really that difficult to offer a smidgen of space containing opposing viewpoints in order to give some semblance of objectivity? Apparently so.”
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JustAnotherLowWageWorker
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11-04-08 1:41 PM
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WVEXPAT originally posted: "So the next time you complain about the NR remember if were just about anywhere else in the country you'd be agreeing!" In what way does that excuse this paper? I never said that I would be agreeing with overwhelming bias in any paper or newsgroup. I do not believe that bias contributes to honest discourse. Why the assumption that I would agree with bias on the other side?
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wonderwhy
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11-04-08 10:16 AM
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MountaineerinCA do you have that champagne chilling?
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MountaineerInCA
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11-04-08 8:19 AM
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Neither candidate puts coal at the top of the list. McCain is nuclear and oil drilling. Obama is wind and solar. Both agree there is need for all of the above. Natural Gas is probably next on both lists. If you read the article from LA Times I listed, geothermal sources are more abundant that coal, oil and natural gas combined...and nearly 100% clean. Coal is an option for both...if and only if it is clean. I often looked at the city of Pittsburgh with amazement. 40 years ago, it was one of the most polluted cities in the country. Steel plants & smoke stacks weren't just part of the city...it was the city. Pittsburgh reinvented itself, went high tech, found industries and businesses to take the place of the steel plants. But WV seems to have sat in wait. Why is this? Is it the elected officials, who have failed the people in bringing new industry to the state? 2 great universities, and many colleges are in WV. A beautiful state..so why is it beholden to the past?
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mattyc8833
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11-04-08 7:24 AM
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DEMGAL: Dont forget McCain is a big supporter of nuclear power plants as well. What would the impact of nuclear be on coal??
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wonderwhy
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11-04-08 2:03 AM
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annied- I have been clear to ask posters not to name call , to post their opinions with facts to back their information. Instead, I truly believe it's been a free for all that has promoted an agenda without factural information to back their stories
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wonderwhy
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11-04-08 1:57 AM
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annied I felt it repsonsible to print that Colin Powell endorsed Obama. I felt it responsilbe to finsih the story that claims Obama is against coal, when Mccain proposed policy is the same. and i would have to go back to give you other articles. It is just not opinion. Many people have posted their concerns about the NR reporting daily on their front page. They haven't even run decisions of the Supreme Court of WV that have affected the citizens of Wheeling, unless of course it is what they want to convey. Most papers put the national and perhaps some local interest news on the front page. I do however Meyers has the right to put what he wants on the editorial page. but they run articles without any mention to the author or the source. that is not responsible jounalism, in my opinion. ALso to allow these posts, it could be more clearly monitored, since they allowed vulgarity of the lowest kind to run all weekend.
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annied
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11-03-08 11:30 PM
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My point is, let's not insult the writers for the paper, whom I'm sure work hard. If you have a problem with the editor, be more specific.
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annied
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11-03-08 11:28 PM
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wonder/just another, I think you should be more clear about why you are upset with the paper. You say it's unethical journalism, but its the EDITORIALS you complain about. What's wrong with local stories? and give us proof if they are wrong.
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MountaineerInCA
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11-03-08 8:49 PM
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here is easier way to locate the story... w w w dot latimes dot com slash news slash science it is front page on that section
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MountaineerInCA
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11-03-08 8:32 PM
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I'd like to know what McCain's real agenda is....aside from West Virginia's electorial votes.
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MountaineerInCA
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11-03-08 8:30 PM
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I would be scared about coal...not to toss a wrench into this. Los Angeles Times story today.... go there and do a search on: Utilities putting new energy into geothermal sources. Billionaire Warren E. Buffett has invested big. Internet giant Google Inc. is bankrolling advanced research. Entrepreneurs are paying record prices for drilling leases in places such as Nevada, where they're prospecting for heat instead of metals. Google is urging the U.S. government to spend big on geothermal R&D as part of the company's push to encourage utility-scale renewable energy that's cheaper than coal. About half the United States' electricity is generated by that dirty fossil fuel. China, already the world's largest emitter of carbon dioxide, is adding coal-fired plants at a swift rate.
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WVEXPAT
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11-03-08 7:29 PM
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Wonder/JustAnother, You criticize this paper for being so far right and you'll get no agrument from me. But from a National perspective most media outlets are left leaning. The Pro-Obama bias has been well documented. Journalismdot org states the following; "unfavorable stories about McCain (negative in nature (57%),(14%) were positive) outweighed favorable ones by a factor of more than three to one—the most unfavorable of all four candidates" and also for Obama a third of the stories were clearly positive in tone (36%), while a similar number (35%) were neutral or mixed. A smaller number (29%) were negative. So the next time you complain about the NR remember if were just about anywhere else in the country you'd be agreeing!
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YeahRight
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11-03-08 5:32 PM
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United Mine Workers of America (UMWA) International President Cecil E. Roberts issued the following statement today: “Sen. John McCain and his running mate, Gov. Sarah Palin, have once again demonstrated that they are willing to say anything and do anything to win this election. Their latest twisting of the truth is about coal and some comments Sen. Obama made last January about the future use of coal in America. “Here is what the McCain campaign left out of Sen. Obama’s actual words: ‘But this notion of no coal, I think, is an illusion. Because the fact of the matter is, is that right now we are getting a lot of our energy from coal. And China is building a coal-powered plant once a week. So what we have to do then is figure out how can we use coal without emitting greenhouse gases and carbon. And how can we sequester that carbon and capture it.’ ***********umwa****/index.php?q=news/mccain-campaign%E2%80%99s-last-minute-distortion-obama%E2%80%99s-coal-record-act-desperation
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brianb
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11-03-08 3:44 PM
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The Intelligencer says "just now coming to light." The San Francisco Chronicle says, "It has been available for the world to hear - and was heavily promoted by us - ever since our Jan. 17 editorial board meeting with Obama. Other campaigns, including... Sen. John McCain's, had ample opportunity to... challenge him on them before the closing days of the general election. None did. "You can hear the full editorial board interview at sfgatedotcomslashZCGA.... Obama hardly sounded like a man determined to shut down the industry. [He] offered... a textured explanation of his determination to encourage cleaner coal technologies. "This notion of no coal, I think, is an illusion," he said at one point." Obama's "real agenda"? More like this fishwrap's.
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Demgal
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11-03-08 3:18 PM
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right!!! this paper never gives both sides. so ill be glad to. OBAMA: "if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted" MCCAIN: "Im confident we can have clean coal technology and that has to be one of the fundamental components of energy independence" so mccain is obviously wrong for coal and we need to VOTE 4 BARRAK AND SAVE THE COAL INDUSTRY!!! happy to have cleared that up
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robojock
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11-03-08 3:14 PM
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Once again, go to the Sierra Club's site.
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robojock
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11-03-08 3:14 PM
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Unethical journalism, all too funny. Like CNN? Like the NY Times? Like CBS? Why is it unethical,wonderwhy, when it does not benefit you?
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wonderwhy
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11-03-08 3:02 PM
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Justanother- No they have intentionally dispalyed unethical journalism the entire process of this election. But they did it in the last two also. Just weren't any sites to post. they have proven themselves to be dishonetly reporting articles. But, wait and see , they are going to be exposed for it. then it will be the laughing stock of the country:)
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JustAnotherLowWageWorker
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11-03-08 1:40 PM
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Has this paper ever presented both sides of the argument on this issue or any other issue when it comes to Obama and McCain? Is it really that difficult to offer a smidgen of space containing opposing viewpoints in order to give some semblance of objectivity? Apparently so.
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topsie
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11-03-08 1:38 PM
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BO will go along with the democrats just like bush whent along with the republicans! the democrats want to ban the burning of coal. they believe co2 is poison and coal is bringing to the surface co2 that has been buried for mil.of yrs.
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YeahRight
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11-03-08 1:13 PM
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The McCain camp is misrepresenting Obama's coal comments. In fact, McCain and Obama hold the same position on coal. What the McCain camp is not giving you from the original tape: Obama: "But this notion of no coal, I think, is an illusion. Because the fact of the matter is is that right now we are getting a lot of our energy from coal. And China is building a coal-powered plant once a week. So what we have to do then is figure out how can we use coal without emitting greenhouse gases and carbon."
Obama and Biden on Clean Coal: Develop and Deploy Clean Coal Technology. Carbon capture and storage technologies hold enormous potential to reduce our greenhouse gas emissions as we power our economy with domestically produced and secure energy. As a U.S. Senator, Obama has worked tirelessly to ensure that clean coal technology becomes commercialized. An Obama administration will provide incentives to accelerate private sector investment in commercial scale zero-carbon coal
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HenryC
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11-03-08 12:17 PM
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But the paper is not presenting both sides of the argument. Look at the last paragraph of the article. They are not portraying his past actions or comments accurately.
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Svede7
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11-03-08 12:12 PM
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Henry C/ It's not an attack by McCain! It's Obama's OWN WORDS.
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HenryC
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11-03-08 11:45 AM
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Oh please.......McCain, at a recent townhall meeting was opposed to burning coal as well. Despite the fact that both candidates support clean coal technology, the McCain campaign tried to make the case that Barack Obama wanted to take away jobs from coal country in Ohio and Pennsylvania, and both Drudge and FOX were happy to oblige. But just three years ago on the floor of the United States Senate, John McCain's Republican colleague George Voinovich of Ohio took to the floor to argue against a proposal by McCain to curb greenhouse gas emissions. McCain's proposal, Voinovich said, would "put coal out of business" and cost thousands of jobs, an argument that McCain did not contest. In fact, McCain agreed that his plan would require sacrifice, but he also argued (correctly) that in the long-run, America would be better off. In other words, he made the exact same arguments as Barack Obama . Gov Strickland said on Fox that McCain's attack was bogus as well.
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