Prevent Rush On Costly Bill
By The IntelligencerRallies as part of the "Solving Our Health Care Emergency" bus tour were held throughout our region of West Virginia this week. Events were held in Wheeling, Weirton, Morgantown, Fairmont and Parkersburg. Similar rallies were held and will be scheduled throughout the United States, as part of an effort to make it seem that health care legislation in Congress has grassroots support.
There is virtually nothing "grassroots" about the rallies. They are under the sponsorship of the well-funded Organizing for America group, a White House front that formerly was called Obama for America.
Indeed, many people and families are struggling with health care problems - but that has been the case for many years. The "Solving Our Health Care Emergency" bus tour's goal - given away by its title - is to convince Americans that health care is a crisis involving immediate action by the government.
But the fact is that bills in the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives do not represent true reform. Having declared that a crisis requiring precipitous action exists, President Barack Obama and liberals in Congress now feel that they must produce change - even if it is not beneficial.
The most recent manifestation of the rush to passage involves the dispute over whether "the public option" - a massive new government-run health insurance program - ought to be included in change. Liberals in the Senate are hoping to gain support for it by declaring that states where the public insurance program is not popular can "opt out" of it.
But the reality is that no state's leaders would agree to opt out of such a program. Technically, states are free to drop out of the Medicaid program, but none has done so - because of massive political pressure from those who depend on the program for health care.
Medicaid and Medicare are both existing "public options" for low-income and older Americans. The costs of both have soared far beyond what was promised when the programs were established. That should be a lesson to those who believe pledges of cost containment in a third government-run insurance program.
We agree that some solution to the nation's health care dilemma is needed. But bills now under consideration are not solutions - they are merely expensive expansions of government power. If anything, they would make health care less affordable for tens of millions of Americans. The real emergency in Washington involves preventing an expensive, counterproductive rush to legislation.
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Russell1959
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11-03-09 4:25 PM
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Ever since the Marshall Plan was enacted in 1947, the United States has been funding universal healthcare in Europe...but we can't afford it here...hmmm why not? One more time, the corporate interests who run this country, (and by manipulating the weak minds and prejudices of the angry right)tell us what we need...what we can have..all to thier benefit.Don't you people get it? the game is rigged against you but still you shout about everything you are told to shout about.
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Russell1959
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11-03-09 4:17 PM
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Popeye: I think your lord and savior Ronald Reagan effectively gutted the Dept. of Education some years back. I know why republicans hate government: because when they have control of it they prove how incompetent they are at it. I don't believe the founding fathers you idiots like to defer to had any idea that corporations such as we have today would count as 'people' and that multi-million dollar campaign contributions would contitute 'free speech'. If you hate bureacracy so much, why don't you object to corporate bureacrats who don't seem to be that competent either, given the financial meltdown we are still currently going through
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Russell1959
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11-03-09 4:09 PM
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Graysongs (what a gay name by the way) what I said may not make sence to you., therefore you resort to calling me names...I was actually just taking the neo-con line of reasoning to the extreme..sounds far fetched?
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Graysongs
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11-02-09 9:00 AM
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Ellis - BoyObaMao had to get his nonsense passed before the August recess or lose it all. He failed. Congresscritters went home to find seriously pizzed off taxpayers and then the Sept 12th March and now the elections coming up this week where ObaMaoWorld will be rejected in no uncertain terms. Lefties MIGHT hold on to the NJ governorship at best, but NJ is virtually a foreign country anyway. The rural voters, though, may be fired up to take control back from the urban dreg "voter" there and Corzine could be out. Those messages will have Congresscritters jumping ship in a hurry. George Soros ain't gonna he happy with his sock puppet.
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EllisWyatt
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11-02-09 6:37 AM
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Nancy You support Socialized medicine. You support the theft of money from those who are productive. Since you do not believe in property rights, but in From each according to his ability/to each according to his needs, I suggest you stop being a hypocrite and post your personal info so that Wheeling's homeless and drug addicted can come over and take your goods. Socialized medicine at the federal level and local police departments are not the same thing. I have no problem paying for local services because it does not violate the Constitution. I would have a problem if we had to pay the federal government to get local services. Nancy-it is obvious that you went to public school and not a good one at that.
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Graysongs
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11-01-09 10:13 PM
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Russell - You're just a plain and simple idiot. You'd look far less foolish just saying nothing at all.
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Graysongs
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11-01-09 10:01 PM
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Poor little hoopie - VA is a virtual lock. NY-23 a very likely win for the independent conservative. NJ far less likely but it will be so close that it will still scare the crap out of the incumbent lefty Dems in the Congress because NJ is such a lefty stronghold. Rural NJ, though, seems very fired up to take control of their state back from the urban "gimme crowd". Hide and watch, lil' red diaper doper baby, hide and watch.
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wvhoopie
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11-01-09 9:37 PM
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graysongs, LOL. what aa idiot. LOL
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Graysongs
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11-01-09 9:29 PM
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Reactionary - Watch these 3 elections coming up this week. I think 2 out of the 3 - and very possibly all 3 - are going to be a clear rejection of ObaMao and his plans. Then, watch Congressional Democrats do a "Feets, Don't Fail Me Now" to run as far and as fast from this fraud as they can. A little "shot across the bow" for them ahead of the 2010 elections. Oh, they'll shuck and jive for the public, but they'll be a-runnin'.
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Reactionary
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11-01-09 9:18 PM
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All this so-called "debate" is good! But I have an uneasy feeling about the "change" we are in for. There is an old saying out there,..."If it sounds too good to be true, it probably isn't" That's ObamaCare in the nutshell. How many postersw here STILL believe in the Easter Bunny?
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BigMike
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11-01-09 8:49 PM
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Green Jobs for Chinese: A Chinese wind-turbine company, with financing help from Beijing, has struck a deal to be the exclusive supplier to one of the largest wind-farm developments in the U.S., a sign of how Chinese firms are aggressively capitalizing on America's clean-energy push. The 36,000-acre development in West Texas would receive $1.5 billion in financing through Export-Import Bank of China. Shenyang Power Group, a five-month-old alliance, would supply the project with 240 of its 2.5-megawatt wind turbines, among the biggest made in the world. Ironic isn't it, that the most polluted country in the world is producing "Green" products for export.
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popeye
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11-01-09 8:23 PM
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russell- I always love the analogy of the so-called great socialist programs. We need a gradual decrease in our size of big central govt that our founding fathers outlined in our Constitution. We currently have too many bloated bureaucracies that are very ineffective. I would start with downsizing the Dept of Education. BTW, folks like you have no idea how a free market based on natural law is supposed to work. Do you know how ,any regulations that are on the books that aren't even enforced? Doesn't that tell you that govt is too big?
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Russell1959
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11-01-09 6:44 PM
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Also I suggest that all you anti-soci alist 'conservatives' ought to put YOUR money where your mouth is and fund a special election to disband your state and local police and fire departments...close your public schools, libraries, every social service that exists in yyour community...'cuz face it...THAT is is what you are against..that's socia lism. Am I to assume that the neocons feel that the first responders to the world trade center shouldn't be honored as the heros they truly were because they weren't employed by privatized police and fire companies? After all they were not creating profit for the 'almighty free market'
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Russell1959
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11-01-09 6:18 PM
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this editorial states that many families are struggling with healthCARE problems....but that has been the case for MANY years..it then goes on to imply that there is some liberal scheme to RUSH reform...Am I to assume the writer of this editorial feels we should wait MANY,MANY more years to address this problem? maybe wait until a few hundred thousand more of our fellow Americans die off for lack of health care (or lack of money) Also I saw on the news that the republicans in congress will be coming up with their plan for healthcare reform in a few days...what have they been doing for the last few months??? collecting campaign donations from healthcare, that what
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popeye
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11-01-09 5:18 PM
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wonder- Big pharma amd big insurance are part of corporatism. Corporatism is not free market capitalism. Corporatism is when a corporation is in bed with big govt and they make the market heaviliy regulated in order to protect themselves. If we would reduce regulations and practice the natural laws of a free market the prices would go down and there would be access for most Americans.
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Reactionary
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11-01-09 4:55 PM
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Nice to hear from you again, Nancy!
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Reactionary
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11-01-09 4:54 PM
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Lorenzo--JFYI--I have young family in Afghanistan too. Marines. I don't forget them either.
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Graysongs
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11-01-09 12:27 PM
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hoopie - By the way, you phony hypocrite, did the Lord spend His time among the Pharisees at the Temple or did He go out among "the publicans and the sinners"? Also, hung around with a bunch of roughneck fishermen, too.
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Graysongs
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11-01-09 12:14 PM
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Nancy - Ellis doesn't support this legalized theft so why should he post his information? It's the people who want things given away who should be doing that - like you. Kinda looks like the results of this week's off-year and special elections might send Congress a message that Boy ObaMao really, really doesn't want them to hear. Might see even a whole lot more of your own party running from this crap as fast as their feet can fly. Might be the Dem battle cry for the week - "Feets, Don't Fail Me Now!"
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Graysongs
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11-01-09 12:08 PM
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hoopie - You want to stand up for a law which funds infanticide and racism. And tell me "it's up to God" to stop it. No, you santimonious moron, a man has an obligation - a moral obligation - to prevent the slaughter of innocents. Unless, you're tee-totally stupid (which is quite likely), you know that it is only through changing the Supreme Court that this barbaric sacrament can be eradicated. You support your political party before you follow God's Word because you're a fraud and a liar.
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NancySI
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11-01-09 11:24 AM
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Ellis-"Time to put up or shut up. If you support Socialized Medicine and don't post all of your personal info, you are either a plant or a coward." Cowards? LOL Plants? LOL Like a Venus Fly-Trap? LOL Seems you are proving, no one is as stupid as you. Lead by example, not by your whiny rants on the NR Limbaaa On-Line Propaganda News.
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EllisWyatt
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11-01-09 11:15 AM
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Liberals.. Where is your personal financial information and your home address? C'mon! Don't be hypocritical! You believe that the wants and needs of the masses trump property rights! Why won't you make your property available to those who need it? Time to put up or shut up. If you support Socialized Medicine and don't post all of your personal info, you are either a plant or a coward.
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walksabout
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11-01-09 11:13 AM
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let us say I have no insurance and am hit with a $90,000 bill. $1500 a month for 5 years and it is paid off. we can negotiate the bottom line down. I had one of those that took four years to pay down.
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walksabout
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11-01-09 11:09 AM
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misery failure and dissappointment are GOD'S gift to remind us others are still even worse off.A 2nd cahnce to review our own actions and correct our shortcomings.
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walksabout
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11-01-09 11:06 AM
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why oh why must liberals insist I live off others when I choose not to ? Could it be an excuse to say " everybody does it, I am not abusing the system "
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