Ohio County Schools May Join Suit
49 of W.Va.’s 55 districts suing over retiree benefitsBy JOSELYN KING
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WHEELING - Ohio County Board of Education members will decide Monday whether to join 49 of West Virginia's 55 school districts in a lawsuit over health care benefits for retirees.
Since 2006, school boards have had to record in their accounting books the amount of "other post-employment benefits" (OPEB) owed to their retirees. The figure primarily pertains to retirement health care and life insurance benefits.
The move will, in essence, transfer such obligations from the state to county school districts, school officials fear. And even if the debt exists only on paper, it still will hurt them when they attempt to issue low-interest financing bonds, they believe.
In Ohio County, recorded OPEB costs will be about $700,000 this year, according to Superintendent George Krelis. That figure will jump to $4.4 million in 2010, and will continue to increase.
On Friday, Ohio County Board of Education members invited local and state lawmakers to join them for a special meeting to provide information about state officials' plans for dealing with OPEB during the upcoming legislative session.
The West Virginia Legislature returns to Charleston on Jan. 13.
Among those present were state Sens. Larry Edgell, D-Wetzel; Jeff Kessler, D-Marshall; and Jack Yost, D-Brooke; as well as Delegates Orphy Klempa and Tal Hutchins, both D-Ohio.
Edgell is a member of the Senate Finance Committee that last month rejected a proposal to allow school boards and other government employers to pay just what they owe their current retirees in OPEB costs this budget year. Committee members had thought a long-term solution was needed instead.
"The feeling was all we were doing was postponing the inevitable for another year," Edgell said. "We thought we would be better off if we just let it go straight to the Supreme Court. We didn't make that argument publicly ... and say sue us. It's going to be resolved, and everybody believes the state will be held responsible - that we created the problem."
Edgell is a retired school teacher.
He said that what led to a liability in retired teachers' health care benefits was that retiring teachers were allowed to purchase months of free care with their remaining, unused sick days. They could buy one month of free health care for every three days they had remaining.
Edgell said when he retired, he had 300 sick days, and this equaled 100 months of free health care.
Kessler told the board the state Legislature should take "a wait and see posture" as Congress tackles the national health care issues.
Many of the state's retired teachers are in their 50s, he noted. If a national care provider would drop the minimum coverage age, these teachers would be eligible for the national health plan.
"They would be removed off our books," he said. "They may completely be shifted from our responsibility to the federal government."
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EllisWyatt
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12-13-09 9:41 AM
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Truth I earn more in the private sector. There is really no limit to how far I can go. In government, only City of Wheeling employees can get bonuses but most government employees trade off potential (ambition, hard work, success) in return for safe and steady paychecks, benefits and job security. From my previous posts, you should know that when I say "public employees", I am referring to city, county and state employees, public unions and federal bureucrats. I don't think anyone with common sense would equate City of Wheeling firemen and Ohio County schoolteachers with FBI agents of CIA case officers. Both groups work for government but the latter group will not be out walking a picket line anytime soon. Of course, that is not the ONLY reason I called you a moron. Your previous posts have convinced me that you watch too much Oprah when your hubby is in Columbus or wherever, Monday-Friday.
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TruthSeeker
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12-13-09 3:14 AM
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Oh, I think I need some sleep. That should have been "And neither one hires strictly humanities majors." Interesting that you have such low esteem for public employees of all kinds. Get turned down for a job on the public side did ya?! Didn't have the qualifications or just weren't quite good enough?
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TruthSeeker
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12-13-09 3:09 AM
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Geez, Ellis, you accuse me of being a moron but don't know that I listed ONLY public employees on my short list? You did say that people who work for the public only do so cause they're not the "best and the brightest" or they'd be in the private sector did you not? I think most who read this thread will realize pretty quickly who the moron is and will easily conclude that it is not I. You didn't say a darned word about humanities majors until your reply post. Perhaps you should include yet another book in your Amazon oder...perhaps "Public Employment For Dummies"? You should also pick up "Civil Service For Dummies" and "Military Careers for Dummies" as both are types of public employment. And neither one is hire strictly humanities majors.
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EllisWyatt
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12-12-09 11:30 PM
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Actually, Truth, you are a moron. I say that because only a moron would lump CIA case officers and local public school teachers into the same category. It is a shame that I have to spell everything out for you. I would hope that you would understand the difference between "public employees" and those who I consider essential and Constitutional. I can only guess that your friends went to school to become teachers because they could not handle the math and science necessary to do something productive-or they had a relative to help get them in to a cushy job. Teachers generally come from the bottom 10% of college graduates. If they were qualified, they would be coding software, designing buildings, building bridges or producing chemical products. People generally go into the humanities to hide. Affirmative action and BS won't get you through the hard sciences. You actually have to KNOW something in the sciences, unlike the humanities, where you have to know SOMEONE.
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TruthSeeker
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12-12-09 2:10 PM
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Ellis babbled, "Let's face the facts. Most people working in the public sector are there because they could not get work in the private sector." My dear Ellis, that is Bulls h i t and you know it. I have several friends who are school teachers. They went to college to become school teachers. They didn't go to b-school and unable to find a job, opt to become school teachers. Ellis further whined, "The best and brightest don't go into public employment." So you're saying that all public employees such as firefighters, police, FBI, CIA, school teachers, EMT's, professors, generals, soldiers, health department doctors and nurses, etc, etc, are all second rate at their jobs? How can YOU be that ignorant?!
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EllisWyatt
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12-12-09 12:58 PM
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troll Let's face the facts. Most people working in the public sector are there because they could not get work in the private sector. There is a trade-off for everything. For example, let's say you can find a job at $15 per hour. This job is 10 minutes from your house. Now, you can also find a job for $20 per hour. This second job requires a 1.5 hour commute. Yes, you are earning $10,000 per year more at the 2nd job but when you add up the extra 700 hours per year in travel time, stress and gas, is it worth it? The same principle applies here. Public workers trade off higher wages in return for good benefits, retirement packages, less work hours, lack of accountability and better job security. If they don't like teaching or working for the state, let them find comparable private sector employment, if they can. The best and brightest don't go into public employment.
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JamesT
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12-12-09 11:36 AM
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West Virginia is controlled by The Democratic Party. So, why not drop thier " Cadillac Healthcare" and jump on the Obama HealthCare Bandwagon? If it's good enough for Rockefeller and Molohan, then its surely good enough for the politicos in West Virginia.
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trolll
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12-12-09 8:30 AM
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What you are failing to appreciate Shakespeare, is that the trading of sick days for after-retirement insurance was put into place to a) compensate State employees in WV for receiving wages far below both other govt. entitities and the private sector, and b) to reduce absenteeism by giving an incentive not to use sick days as you go. If you wish to eliminate this "perk" (which unfortunately for some State agencies has already been done with what should have been anticipated results), you will need to sweeten the package by increasing wages. Of course, many who do not understand what it means to work for the State of WV will simply knee-jerk against this too.
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Shakespeare
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12-12-09 1:30 AM
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Another scam. sick days for free medical insurance. Nothing is free, people who have to pay for insurance have to pay for more now due to scxams like this promoted by the teachers unions and legislators, vote these legislators out,. 300 hundred sick days and now 100 months of free healthcare, this is worse than highway robbery
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USMCDeathPimp
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12-12-09 12:12 AM
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can I get some of my property tax back if the feds take over your sickdays?
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