It hasn't been the best of starts for both Valley and Toronto this season as the teams are a combined 1-7 to begin the 2012 campaign.
Both teams are young, each having lost major pieces from last season's team.
Neither Valley coach Tom West or Toronto coach Eric Meek is ready to give up on the season yet as both are hoping Friday's game at Clark Hinkle Field in Toronto will be a springboard for the rest of the way.
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Toronto quarterback Blaze Glenn (7) and the Red Knights will play host to Valley on Friday night. Toronto is looking for its first victory of the season.
''Two years ago, we started out 0-4 and came on strong,'' Meek said. ''Last season we won five of our last 7. So hopefully we can have that kind of success again. There is still a lot of football left to be played.''
Toronto's problem could be a tough schedule that has seen it go up against Shadyside, Steubenville Catholic, and Wellsville en route to an 0-4 start.
Freshman quarterback Blaze Glenn has been a bright spot for the Red Knights, but according to Meek, that is no where near where the problem lies.
''We are a small group and we don't have a lot of size,'' Meek said. ''We have quickness but where we are hurting the most is in our tackling. That is something we know we have to continue to improve on if we want to come out and get our first win Friday.''
Unfortunately for Meek, the Lumberjacks have a lot of big boys.
Spencer Mason and Trey Streets lead the way for Valley, which defeated Hundred in Week 3 for the only victory between the two schools.
The Lumberjacks are coming off a loss to Notre Dame last week. It was the first game back for West, who missed the first three games following surgery.
''It was good to be back out there,'' West said. ''We have a young team and are playing a lot of freshmen and sophomores right now.
''The biggest problem seems to be the mental mistakes we are making. We drove the ball well (against Notre Dame) but just couldn't score.''
West also sees a lot of his team in Toronto.
''They are kind of like us with having a hard time getting started,'' West said. ''They have a QB that likes to scramble and he can go clear to the sideline to get the ball. We have to find a way to contain him. The way he scrambles, he worries us.''